Are we REALLY this weak?

[Sematary]

I agree. Until that person comes forward this is all we have and will take the man that will be slightly less destructive.

And who would that be? A tyrant in Democratic clothing or the tyrant in Republican clothing? What makes the tyrant with the "R" less destructive than the one with the "D"?
They BOTH want more war.
They BOTH ignore the constitution
They BOTH have the same puppetmasters.

So what's the difference?

 

[Liberty74]

Anyone who votes for or hopes Obama wins is going to permanently set the movement back. If Obama wins, everything is over. There will be NO TURNING BACK. Just look at what he has accomplished in less than 4 years.

No, I'm not voting for Romney but would we be able to use some muscle against Romney and maybe keep the Overton Window from moving too far Left with permanent irreversible damage? Possibly until 2016.

It's why Dr. Paul said he did not "fully endorse" Romney. Read between the lines people.

 

[Cleaner44]

Anyone who votes for or hopes Obama wins is going to permanently set the movement back. If Obama wins, everything is over. There will be NO TURNING BACK. Just look at what he has accomplished in less than 4 years.

No, I'm not voting for Romney but would we be able to use some muscle against Romney and maybe keep the Overton Window from moving too far Left with permanent irreversible damage? Possibly until 2016.

It's why Dr. Paul said he did not "fully endorse" Romney. Read between the lines people.

This is wishful thinking. Romney will not respond to any muscle you are thinking of. Just look at how he is already attempting to dictate to the entire party at the RNC. Romney is a tyrant.


I am voting for Johnson because I want my vote to be registered and I refuse to vote for liberals, regardless of their label of Democrat or Republican.

The GOP needs to have their back broken if they are to be rebuilt as a small and limited government party.

 

[TruckinMike]

Anyone who votes for or hopes Obama wins is going to permanently set the movement back. If Obama wins, everything is over. There will be NO TURNING BACK. Just look at what he has accomplished in less than 4 years.

Simply not true -- The Republican (voters) will be up in arms, the dems will not have the votes, only executive orders and waring will ensue. And the masses will awaken with our help.

With Romney -- everything you said is true because the republican voter will go back to never-never-land thus giving free reign to the republican establishment.

 

[DanK22]

Anyone who votes for or hopes Obama wins is going to permanently set the movement back. If Obama wins, everything is over. There will be NO TURNING BACK. Just look at what he has accomplished in less than 4 years.

An Obama victory will give us the leverage we need to oust the establishment types that forced Romney on us. That said, I'm either staying home, voting GJ, or writing in Paul.

 

[Noblegeorge]

I dont see how anyone who calls themself a Ron Paul supporter could vote for anyone but Gary Johnson. TBH though between Romney and Obama Romney scares me more. Trying to appease Israel and neo cons that clown could land us all in World War 3. At least Obama appears to be somewhat cautious on that front. Plus as has beeen said before we would have to wait until 2020 before a Liberty candidate could run as Republican if Romney gets in. Choosing between the best of two evils Obama is a total no brainer for me.

 

[CaptUSA]

We've had a million threads about this.

Vote how you wish.

Obama? I can't bring myself to do such a thing. Not even for strategic reasons. (I think "strategic" voting is the lowest of the low. It gives us what we've already got. Voting against the evil you don't like while voting FOR an evil you don't like.)

Romney? What's the difference? He won't be any better. Maybe some of the GOP goes back to sleep? Maybe more of them wake up and realize it's both parties screwing them.

Johnson? I like him. I really do. But the vote would only be for strategic reasons - to send a message. See point one.

Write in Paul? My vote won't get counted, but at least I voted for the guy I really want to be President. I can sleep knowing that I didn't contribute to the pain and suffering being perpetrated on my son. Yep. This is my plan.


Really, though, do what you wish, but don't stop working to wake more people up. And don't hate your fellow freedom fighter for doing something different. Despite what the media tells you, we are not a singular collective movement, but a group of individuals, each with our own minds.

 

[BSU kid]

I can't believe people here are voting for Obama, I want to throw up all over the floor. Just don't vote.

 

[jay_dub]

What Romney and the RNC have done is a big F%*! YOU to Dr.Paul and us all.....then they have the nerve to shill Ron with a 'tribute' video!!!!

I can't believe that Ron actually gave his speech under a RepubliCAN banner. My God man, don't you know when you've been shit on??

No matter what planks are added to the platform, we've seen, by the jackboot methods they went through to change the rules that these guys don't give a damn about any of us.

How about Romney's response (feigned ignorance) to Ben Swann's question about the Maine delegates?

I've been thinking I would vote for Johnson as a protest vote, but really, maybe I should just vote for Obama instead. With the gridlock in DC right now, nothing much will get done if he gets re-elected, which is a damn sight better than letting Romney and his cohorts have their way.

 

[Endthefednow]

I will write in RON PAUL if not in the ballot in California

 

[VBRonPaulFan]

Romney isn't even a Republican.

If you're a true republican - how could you even stand voting for the scumbag? I will NEVER EVER VOTE FOR ROMNEY. I wouldn't vote him president of the PTA, let alone POTUS. Are you guys nuts? Obama is terrible - Romney is worse. Neither of those guys will get my vote this fall, no way.

People try to rationalize voting for Romney by saying that he's better than Obama, but there is no way that's true. Romney is a liberal masquerading as a Republican and has never voted for Republican principles. What makes anyone think he'll do that now? He'll continue to promote big government the same way he always has, and everyone who has voted for him will feel like a freakin' sucker in a year or two.

 

[pacu44]

IF Paul isnt on the ballot, voting third party... (electric machine)

Huckabee, the RNC and Romney can sit on stick and twirl.

 

[pacu44]

IF Paul isnt on the ballot, voting third party... (electric machine)

Huckabee, the RNC and Romney can sit on stick and twirl.

 

[Southerner]

I have seen (and many of you have noticed the same thing) a bunch of posts that essentially say the same thing - the poster will vote for Romney (pick a random reason). Are you F'n kidding me?

Come November, we will have a new president (elect), and his name sadly won't be Ron Paul. No one enjoys voting for the lesser of evils, but our nation can NOT survive another 4 years of Obama. I WILL vote for the GOP nominee, whoever that is. Even if it was Lindsey frickin Graham! (barf, puke) Obama WILL bankrupt this nation if he already hasn't, and even Romney won't do near the damage if given 8 years that Obama has done in 3.5

RAND PAUL 2016 or 2020

 

[wgadget]

Come November, we will have a new president (elect), and his name sadly won't be Ron Paul. No one enjoys voting for the lesser of evils, but our nation can NOT survive another 4 years of Obama. I WILL vote for the GOP nominee, whoever that is. Even if it was Lindsey frickin Graham! (barf, puke) Obama WILL bankrupt this nation if he already hasn't, and even Romney won't do near the damage if given 8 years that Obama has done in 3.5

RAND PAUL 2016 or 2020

Good luck.

 

[sailingaway]

Ron Paul won't be on the ballot if he doesn't get the nomination.

No, obviously not Romney. but Gary Johnson. He's on the ballot. Or Virgil Goode. Or stay home. Maybe the Convention will give us Palin.

I haven't seen anybody say they'd vote for Romney, and a lot of people are getting ready to get somewhat enthused about GJ.

You are free to cast your vote as you want, but others who want to write in Ron Paul or leave it blank are also free to do that. Or even vote for Romney. I'm not really all that scared too many will do that, given his cheating us and power grabs even before taking office, but once Ron is out of the race, each person's vote is their own to cast.

 

[sailingaway]

IF Paul isnt on the ballot, voting third party... (electric machine)

Huckabee, the RNC and Romney can sit on stick and twirl.

I'd leave it blank and let the discrepency in the voter numbers between number of voters and number who vote for president be the recording of my vote, IF you preferred to write in Ron and only weren't because of the electric machine. The way you wrote that made it sound like you would write him in if you could.

 

[The Dude]

What's almost as bad as people saying they'll be voting Obama/Romney is writing in Ron Paul when there is a perfectly good liberty candidate that needs our vote on the ballot. Anyone who doesn't vote for Gary Johnson is shooting themselves and this entire movement in the foot.

 

[jbauer]

But....If you ask the Romney people, writing in RP, voting GJ or staying home ARE votes for Obama. Since we're all going to hell anyways we might just as well go down with the ship right?

It pains me to see some putting Rand's 2016 run before doing the right thing NOW. Neither one of those clowns deserves the vote of true liberty-minded individuals. Not to mention that there is no guarantee that the GOP won't treat Rand the exact same way (they will.)

Do what you want, but to me writing in Ron Paul, voting for Gary Johnson, or abstaining completely are the only choices.

 

[jbauer]

I'm coming around to that idea although it pains me to not vote for Ron after all he and us have been through. At this point I think we need to seriously look at the 3rd parties. It is apparent that no 3rd party is going to win this year, but it is also apparent that Ron isn't going to either. So with that said by voting for Gary Johnson we atleast get to record a NO vote for the D's and R's. To me that is becoming the most logical path as of right now. Oh and no I wont joing the Libertarian party.

What's almost as bad as people saying they'll be voting Obama/Romney is writing in Ron Paul when there is a perfectly good liberty candidate that needs our vote on the ballot. Anyone who doesn't vote for Gary Johnson is shooting themselves and this entire movement in the foot.