Are we REALLY this weak?

Sematary

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I have seen (and many of you have noticed the same thing) a bunch of posts that essentially say the same thing - the poster will vote for Romney (pick a random reason). Are you F'n kidding me? After ALL we have been through? After Romney and his campaign and the RNC have shown their true colors and their absolute DISDAIN for who we are and what we stand for, people are willing to sell their soul to the devil to try and keep Obama out of the Whitehouse? REALLY? I am disgusted beyond words at this turn of events. If the people who supported Ron Paul are not even willing to stand up for their principles with their vote, what hope is there?

And, never mind the fact that those who profess to be willing to vote for Romney in order to defeat Obama are reneging on their principles but how about the fact that our next best chance to effect a change in the Whitehouse won't come for another 8 years rather than 4? Again - are you f'n kidding me? People are willing to to make a bet that somehow Romney will be better than Obama (which, by the way - in actions and in words - he has already shown that he will be just as bad if not worse).
This election, and the next, are about the future of America - the future of freedom IN America. We must stand strong because divided, we lose.

ONLY Ron Paul in 2012. There can be no other!
 
I have seen (and many of you have noticed the same thing) a bunch of posts that essentially say the same thing - the poster will vote for Romney (pick a random reason). ...

Just to set the record straight in case there is any confusion - I made a post here that did exactly as you say -- SO if any of you read that post -- it was done tongue in cheek -- per the tone of the thread in which I was on. But there appeared to have been some folks that did not get it. If you are one of them, sorry for the horror that you may have experienced due to my post.:)
 
Ron Paul won't be on the ballot if he doesn't get the nomination.

No, obviously not Romney. but Gary Johnson. He's on the ballot. Or Virgil Goode. Or stay home. Maybe the Convention will give us Palin.

I haven't seen anybody say they'd vote for Romney, and a lot of people are getting ready to get somewhat enthused about GJ.


I have seen (and many of you have noticed the same thing) a bunch of posts that essentially say the same thing - the poster will vote for Romney (pick a random reason). Are you F'n kidding me? After ALL we have been through? After Romney and his campaign and the RNC have shown their true colors and their absolute DISDAIN for who we are and what we stand for, people are willing to sell their soul to the devil to try and keep Obama out of the Whitehouse? REALLY? I am disgusted beyond words at this turn of events. If the people who supported Ron Paul are not even willing to stand up for their principles with their vote, what hope is there?

And, never mind the fact that those who profess to be willing to vote for Romney in order to defeat Obama are reneging on their principles but how about the fact that our next best chance to effect a change in the Whitehouse won't come for another 8 years rather than 4? Again - are you f'n kidding me? People are willing to to make a bet that somehow Romney will be better than Obama (which, by the way - in actions and in words - he has already shown that he will be just as bad if not worse).
This election, and the next, are about the future of America - the future of freedom IN America. We must stand strong because divided, we lose.

ONLY Ron Paul in 2012. There can be no other!
 
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I think Romney might be a tiny bit better than Obama but am voting Johnson now. Well if Romney's lawyers dont get Johnson kicked off the PA ballot. :mad:
 
It pains me to see some putting Rand's 2016 run before doing the right thing NOW. Neither one of those clowns deserves the vote of true liberty-minded individuals. Not to mention that there is no guarantee that the GOP won't treat Rand the exact same way (they will.)

Do what you want, but to me writing in Ron Paul, voting for Gary Johnson, or abstaining completely are the only choices.
 
It pains me to see some putting Rand's 2016 run before doing the right thing NOW. Neither one of those clowns deserves the vote of true liberty-minded individuals. Not to mention that there is no guarantee that the GOP won't treat Rand the exact same way (they will.)

Do what you want, but to me writing in Ron Paul, voting for Gary Johnson, or abstaining completely are the only choices.

Actually, I'm doing the right thing now (voting for Dr. Paul) AND thinking ahead to 2016
 
I have to vote for the GOM labeling in California and not raising taxes. If Ron Paul is not on the ticket, I will choose and write in "no one" for Prez.
 
I think Romney might be a tiny bit better than Obama but am voting Johnson now. Well if Romney's lawyers dont get Johnson kicked off the PA ballot. :mad:

Romney is DEFINITELY a TINY bit better than Obama. It is almost 100% certain that the country will be worse in 4 years than it is now.

Romney's attitude is worse than Obama's. Look at the last 2 weeks. Akin says something controversial. Romney says "step down". Are the feelings of feminists
sacred cows now? Whatever you do, don't offend the feminists? Wait, what would happen if Romney was President and the Leftists/Feminists/Liberals whine about something, which they do all the time? Romney would back down. There is no chance, under Romney, that anything good could pass. The Left would complain, and Romney would capitulate.

Here's what you'd get with Romney - same basic bills, but some Republicans would vote for them, because Romney is a Republican.

If Obama won, the Republicans would continue to block Obama (I assume). Clinton didn't do much between 96 and 00, and some things, like welfare reform, could be seen as good.

But Obama has been a terrible President, and Romney would be a terrible President, and there is 0% hope that either of those guys won't be terrible. I'm not voting
for a President that I'm 100% certain will be terrible.

Gary Johnson, Virgil Goode, stay home.
 
I have to vote for the GOM labeling in California and not raising taxes. If Ron Paul is not on the ticket, I will choose and write in "no one" for Prez.

I could spoil my ballot with a big ol - NO. THEY ALL SUCK. and focus on the state rep races and the state senate.
 
It pains me to see some putting Rand's 2016 run before doing the right thing NOW. Neither one of those clowns deserves the vote of true liberty-minded individuals. Not to mention that there is no guarantee that the GOP won't treat Rand the exact same way (they will.)

Do what you want, but to me writing in Ron Paul, voting for Gary Johnson, or abstaining completely are the only choices.

Also Virgil Goode.
 
Do you really want a Republican behind the helm when the U.S. economy begins to take a turn for the worst?

No.

If you want to made head way, then let Obama get re-elected so we can use his fascist/socialist ideas as ammunition for 2016 and further on.
 
I have seen (and many of you have noticed the same thing) a bunch of posts that essentially say the same thing - the poster will vote for Romney (pick a random reason). Are you F'n kidding me? After ALL we have been through? After Romney and his campaign and the RNC have shown their true colors and their absolute DISDAIN for who we are and what we stand for, people are willing to sell their soul to the devil to try and keep Obama out of the Whitehouse? REALLY? I am disgusted beyond words at this turn of events. If the people who supported Ron Paul are not even willing to stand up for their principles with their vote, what hope is there?

And, never mind the fact that those who profess to be willing to vote for Romney in order to defeat Obama are reneging on their principles but how about the fact that our next best chance to effect a change in the Whitehouse won't come for another 8 years rather than 4? Again - are you f'n kidding me? People are willing to to make a bet that somehow Romney will be better than Obama (which, by the way - in actions and in words - he has already shown that he will be just as bad if not worse).
This election, and the next, are about the future of America - the future of freedom IN America. We must stand strong because divided, we lose.

ONLY Ron Paul in 2012. There can be no other!

If it makes you feel good to vote for a candidate that is not on the ballot and will be lumped in as 'SCATTER' with other candidates then you should do that. That is a vote that is essentially the same as staying home and having a steak, which I hear some may do to make them feel better.

Others however believe there is no guarantee we are going to get Rand or some liberty candidate in 2016 if Romney loses. They are already promoting Rubio and Christie as rock stars so he will have quite a bit of competition.

If Obama wins the Overton window will move further in his direction and Conservative-Libertarian like policies will be more unpalatable and extreme to the masses in 4 years. Romney and the party maybe paying lip service to some of our domestic issues as of late which might be meaningless when it comes to action but at least it keeps these issues in the national dialog. An Obama win will be interpreted as the country moving farther to the left.

Voting for Romney maybe like eating a big shit sandwich but I am not going to blast anyone for doing so considering the facts. You are also deluding yourself that there is no difference between Obama and Romney. They are as far away from each other domestically as Ron is from them.
 
If it makes you feel good to vote for a candidate that is not on the ballot and will be lumped in as 'SCATTER' with other candidates then you should do that. That is a vote that is essentially the same as staying home and having a steak, which I hear some may do to make them feel better.

Others however believe there is no guarantee we are going to get Rand or some liberty candidate in 2016 if Romney loses. They are already promoting Rubio and Christie as rock stars so he will have quite a bit of competition.

If Obama wins the Overton window will move further in his direction and Conservative-Libertarian like policies will be more unpalatable and extreme to the masses in 4 years. Romney and the party maybe paying lip service to some of our domestic issues as of late which might be meaningless when it comes to action but at least it keeps these issues in the national dialog. An Obama win will be interpreted as the country moving farther to the left.

Voting for Romney maybe like eating a big shit sandwich but I am not going to blast anyone for doing so considering the facts. You are also deluding yourself that there is no difference between Obama and Romney. They are as far away from each other domestically as Ron is from them.

Who CARES what their domestic policies are. The ONLY way to save the nation from itself is to get someone in office who will abide by his oath to the Constitution and NEITHER of them will do THAT!
 
The ONLY way to save the nation from itself is to get someone in office who will abide by his oath to the Constitution and NEITHER of them will do THAT!

I agree. Until that person comes forward this is all we have and will take the man that will be slightly less destructive.
 
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