Are we pissing in the wind?

[Xyrus2]

When (not if) the GOP loses this election and we get a socialist nightmare in office, they will have to take a look at why they lost and reevaluate their platform. Although we may be only polling around 5% on average, that is a BIG chunk of votes that the GOP would desperately love to have and they cannot ignore (especially if they lose by anywhere near that margin).

Have you seen McCain's platform? It will be socialist no matter who wins.

~X~

 

[tomveil]

Not 3 years to get ready, but 3 years to actively campaign.

I can already see the "Ron Paul told you so" banners over freeway overpasses in 2009.

Yup. I'm not taking my stickers off the car

BTW - Would buy "Ron Paul told you so" stickers

 

[ronpaulitician]

Have you seen McCain's platform? It will be socialist no matter who wins.

~X~

We've had a socialist platform for decades now.

True capitalism = near 0% taxation
Socialism = 50% taxation
True communism = near 100% taxation

I think the tax burden in the US is between 45 and 55 percent or something like that. That's only mildly better than the socialism I left behind when I left my country of birth, Holland, where I believe the tax burden to be between 55 and 65 percent.

 

[Revolution9]

The dreamers referred to in that song were communists.

And the communist who wrote that took down the military industrioal complex over Viet Nam with a guitar and some pyjamas. Fuck off with yer brainwashing. If GW Bush put the hit out on Lennon you can bet it was not because he was a commie..Jerkoff.

Randy

 

[Ironyinc]

We've had a socialist platform for decades now.

True capitalism = near 0% taxation
Socialism = 50% taxation
True communism = near 100% taxation

I think the tax burden in the US is between 45 and 55 percent or something like that. That's only mildly better than the socialism I left behind when I left my country of birth, Holland, where I believe the tax burden to be between 55 and 65 percent.

Actually, true ideological communism is zero taxation. It's just that every time that it has been implemented in practice by a modern state it has been done by totalitarianism which wants to control everything and therefore the governments do take all the citizen's money.

There is a big difference between communism in practice and communism in theory, and to say true communism is full taxation is just wrong.

 

[ronpaulitician]

Yup. I'm not taking my stickers off the car

Didn't Ross Perot have a much easier time on his second run than he did on his first?

Even if people disagree with Ron, at least they know his name now. It's been less than a year. Of course we'll be disappointed if he's not president in '09, and this country will continue to go in the wrong direction (probably a bit faster, at that), but at least we'll have something to look forward to and a name to bring up when we hear people complain about how bad it is.

 

[LibertyEagle]

And the communist who wrote that took down the military industrioal complex over Viet Nam with a guitar and some pyjamas. Fuck off with yer brainwashing. If GW Bush put the hit out on Lennon you can bet it was not because he was a commie..Jerkoff.

Randy

Uh... I didn't hear any talk about any Dreamers in "Pissin' in the Wind". Were you talkin' about a different stanza, than I heard?
http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/mediaplayer.asp?ean=008811256326&z=y&track=13&disc=1

 

[Philmanoman]

Now that Romney has dropped...as far as I know...everyone at my work is voting for Ron Paul,including the 2 owners.Its a small business and theres about 11 of us and its likely that they will recruit some new RP supporters as well.

 

[ronpaulitician]

Actually, true ideological communism is zero taxation.

The elimination of private property constitutes 100% taxation in my book.

 

[Jesubub]

I love this movie:

 

[MsDoodahs]

Actually, true ideological communism is zero taxation. It's just that every time that it has been implemented in practice by a modern state it has been done by totalitarianism which wants to control everything and therefore the governments do take all the citizen's money.

There is a big difference between communism in practice and communism in theory, and to say true communism is full taxation is just wrong.

True communism is the complete absense of all property rights, meaning they don't have tax you because they frikken own you, and everything you produce.

Advocating something like that here is ... not smart.

 

[freelance]

2008 is going to be an unprecedented year in this country's history. Wires are crossing. No one knows how it's going to play out, but it might not be through normal channels.

We don't have a clue what "events" may take place between now and the convention and/or November. The economy could totally collapse by then. Who knows? Stranger things have happened. There are any number of future events that could wake up the majority and change the entire course of our country. We all sit around talking like the evil forces are the only players. We don't know what kind of good forces are out there, because you can bet that they're silent. I wonder if we wouldn't be a quicker course to hell in a handbasket if some of those forces weren't working behind the scenes. WE JUST DON'T KNOW! And, it's pretty hard to predict the future when we don't have all the facts.

You signed up for the ride of your life. If you're uncomfortable, then buckle up your seat belt.

 

[nullvalu]

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

LMAO

We gotta take these bastards! Now we could do it with conventional weapons, that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!

 

[LEK]

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Japan...right?

 

[pacelli]

The media is doing everything in its power to undermine the RP grassroots and the Hucks grassroots. Do not be fooled.

 

[The New Revere]

Someone still has to show me proof of these 700 mccain delegates. Is the MSM suddenly psychic?

 

[Crickett]

Agree with the OP. A lot of my fellow meetup folks still have hope and sound extremely delusional. A smart man knows when he has been beaten.....I'm not saying Ron should drop out, but everyone in the world outside of this forum knows that the campaign is done.

Still, we have to carry on in one way or another. Now that my state's primary is over and our campaign office is closing, my focus from now on will be vote fraud.

What you do not understand yet, is that WE are just getting started...

 

[Crickett]

Good for you, because RP made no mention of a 3rd party run on the conference call tonight.

 

[Melissa]

Agree there is time to pick battles and wait to fight another day. The thing is this is more than winning now but to acknowledge our own existence in this corrupt society that we all now realize that we live in. When they dont acknowledge RP they really are saying to us that believe in his ideas that we dont exist either. To give up is to say that we really dont exist and it wont matter what we do.

Never could have thought that we would end up being the last 3 out of 11 with almost total media black out or ridicule. We made it this far because of all of us, not from pimping by the media, rich billionaires help, but by the labor, persistance, tenacity and out of the box creativity of individual Americans that made this country great.

Every day we campaign for Ron Paul is another day we spread the message of liberty and freedom. We wake up new people that we convince to learn about Ron Paul , as it causes them to understand what this whole country is all about. The constitution may be on life support but the dream is alive and well in every supporter here.

Every person you get to vote for RP is the proverbial middle finger to the establishment and the media. This is a freedom movement and RP happens to be the vehicle for the moment. Remember the minority is always right the majority is always wrong.

I just copied and pasted this to everyone in my email contacts ---yes this is what we are fighting for please send this to everyone---great post to the author

 

[familydog]

Assuming we can get a brokered convention, what makes peeople think all these delegates for John McCain actually like him and will stick with him?