Are we pissing in the wind?

[PAF]

..

 

[showpan]

I'm no lover of libtards, but, win what? Getting off the gold standard (R)? No New Taxes (R)? TSA (R)? Patriot Act (R)? Not ending the FedDeptEd (R)? 6 year extension of 702 (R)? Nationalized Healthcare and OWS (R)? Corporate Welfare (R)? The biggest increase in debt this country ever had (R)?

There aren't enough libertarians who could even make a dent in the machine. Best work local and focus on that.

So you don't think that if we had more voices like Rand that we wouldn't make any gains....lol....that's ridiculous, how do you think the neocons started!!!!!

 

[PAF]

So you don't think that if we had more voices like Rand that we wouldn't make any gains....lol....that's ridiculous, how do you think the neocons started!!!!!

By my nature I am an individualist. Government by it's definition is evil. So don't count me in. Rand and Massie are solid, but they are the rare exception. If you think lobbyists, money and power are going to let Massie's fill the house, or anywhere close to have an effect, I've got news for you. Government is expert at giving little bones here and there to keep a little hope up and their system alive. It ultimately comes down to The People, of which for the most part want nothing to do with liberty or fiscal responsibility. They want/need their MIC contracts, pharmaceutical jobs, WELFARE, and won't allow themselves to be downsized or eliminated.

You know why they keep voting Mike Kelly (R-CD3), even though he has the record of a democrat? Because he makes sure his constituents are taken care of - at the expense of liberty and any sense of fiscal responsibility. I speak to them all the time at committee, breakfasts, political events, they would never in a thousand years vote for somebody like Massie.

Don't let me stop you. If you can make a positive change, all the power to you. I have tried repeatedly over more than a decade and come up zilch. On the Records get thrown into the trash.

 

[showpan]

You know why they keep voting Mike Kelly (R-CD3).

He's 74 and his clock is ticking away....I say that but then remind myself of Kissinger who is 99 and still an NWO neocon leader...lol...or Biden who gets lost leaving the podium....lol
I will always be an optimist. We must continue to fight for small gains, if one strategy isn't working, then on to the next!!!!

 

[BarryDonegan]

Things have come so far in our direction since those days. All the Republicans know we were right. They're now victims of the Patriot act and anti terror laws

 

[Dr.3D]

Things have come so far in our direction since those days. All the Republicans know we were right. They're now victims of the Patriot act and anti terror laws

And people are waking up to the fact the Main Stream Media has been lying to us the whole time.

 

[osan]

I'm no lover of libtards, but, win what? Getting off the gold standard (R)? No New Taxes (R)? TSA (R)? Patriot Act (R)? Not ending the FedDeptEd (R)? 6 year extension of 702 (R)? Nationalized Healthcare and OWS (R)? Corporate Welfare (R)? The biggest increase in debt this country ever had (R)?

Republicrat. Demopublican.

Two sides.

Same rotten coin.