Are we outnumbered?

Are we outnumbered by those who are dependant on government?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 129 91.5%

  • No.

    Votes: 12 8.5%
  • Total voters
    141
Do we help push it over the edge, or stand by and watch?
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Good question.
I am trying to educate those around me on the principals of Liberty.
I am expecting a crash and trying to avoid the shrapnel.

I see it as inevitable at this point.
 
We cannot assume that a colapse of our financial system will somehow bring an improved state of affairs. It will more likely result in ever increasing crys for centralized regulation to abolish all of the "predatory lending" etc. We must continue to fight and hope that we can avoid a meltdown.
 
Maybe at best it could generate Jefferson's desired additional Amendment, NO BORROWING BY GOVERNMENT, EVER!
 
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i dont know if we are outnumbered by people ACTUALLY recieveing it or people who WANT to recieve it.
 
ALL government funding should come from ONLY those that want it and are willing to voluntarily pay for it ALL, themselves.<IMHO> ;)

Shorter version: "Put YOUR money where YOUR mouth is!" :D
 
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SLSteven said:
Can you imagine if we were required to have the funding in the bank before we could undertake a millitary action?
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That's why government hated the gold standard. If they ran out of money and couldn't print anymore, they had to extort more than they already did from the people. People would riot and lynch the leaders of the day.

Thus the adoption of a Central Bank and going off the gold standard. Now they steal it from us via inflation - something not 1 in 10,000 people understand how it works.
 
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." -- Henry Ford
 
I answered yes, but it's a QUALIFIED yes. First of all, it's also true that MOST PEOPLE are DISGUSTED with government to begin with--PLUS for us.

I believe that as soon as people UNDERSTAND that GOVERNMENT IS the PROBLEM, they come around, and that's when the angels in heaven start singing "Glory Hallelujah!"

Hehehe.

But it's true that most are government-dependent. Which gives us a GREAT OPPORTUNITY to educate the masses. They're definitely open to it.
 
kirkblitz said:
i dont know if we are outnumbered by people ACTUALLY recieveing it or people who WANT to recieve it.
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I recall about two or three years ago, I saw some study on this and it indicated that we had tipped - at that time - beyond the "point of no return," so to speak, where 51% were recieving and 49% were not.

Once they gained the majority, the game was over.
 
gilliganscorner said:
That's why government hated the gold standard. If they ran out of money and couldn't print anymore, they had to extort more than they already did from the people. People would riot and lynch the leaders of the day.

Thus the adoption of a Central Bank and going off the gold standard. Now they steal it from us via inflation - something not 1 in 10,000 people understand how it works.
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And I can't figure out why that concept is so frickin' hard for the fluoridated brain soupers out there to understand.

I try it like this:

Let's say you owned a printing press that could print perfect bills.

Now, would you print up a ten million dollar batch, stuff it into a sack and go on a hog wild spending spree buying cars, yachts, mansions and private jets?

No, you wouldn't, because even if your bills were perfect, just your actions alone would be enough to raise suspicions, and you'd get busted pretty quickly.

Now, let's say that you slowly acquired these things by taking out loans to finance them.

Every month when the bills came due, you'd print up a small batch of money to pay them. Of course you're paying back real debt, that's bought real assets with nothing but "funny money" that has no value.

You could give a shit, the bank's getting burned, the manufacturers are getting hosed and your fellow citizens are going to pay for it the end with higher credit prices.

But hey, you don't care, possession is 9/10s of the law.

Well this is exactly what the fedreserve and fedgov does every single day, except that they aren't buying cars and yachts, which at least have some worth, they buy wars, invasions and police state surveillance grids.

This is one of the Mafia's biggest cash cows right now and it's called money laundering and counterfeiting, highly illegal for anyone but government to be involved in.
 
Anti Federalist said:
And I can't figure out why that concept is so frickin' hard for the fluoridated brain soupers out there to understand.
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The socialists have spent 100 years gaining control of government indoctrination camps we call "public education".

In Pro-State brainwashing, where did you EVER learn about the inflation tax? Christ, most "economists" will reject the theory of monetary inflation, how money is created and destroyed and who benefits from the process. Why is it not one economics department puts Rothbard/Mises on the curricula? Not one!

Public education is job training and passivity creation. They want to create good little hamsters that will unquestionably jump on the labour force/debt wheel so they can be hypnotized by our media to pursue the inane, vacuous, superficial pursuit of trinkets and bobbles. They have become so intoxicated by the pursuit of iPods, SUVs, granite countertops, ringtones, (insert whatever shit here), that they have forgotten the things that made them more than simple house pets:

Freedom, Prosperity, Sound Money, Limited Government, Limited Reliance, Free Markets, the State will care for us and feed us at the expense of liberty of others. You know, goodies like that.

Ugh. They DO outnumber us. As Hayek would say, we are well on our way to the Road to Serfdom.

As per design.
 
gilliganscorner said:
The socialists have spent 100 years gaining control of government indoctrination camps we call "public education".

In Pro-State brainwashing, where did you EVER learn about the inflation tax? Christ, most "economists" will reject the theory of monetary inflation, how money is created and destroyed and who benefits from the process. Why is it not one economics department puts Rothbard/Mises on the curricula? Not one!

Public education is job training and passivity creation. They want to create good little hamsters that will unquestionably jump on the labour force/debt wheel so they can be hypnotized by our media to pursue the inane, vacuous, superficial pursuit of trinkets and bobbles. They have become so intoxicated by the pursuit of iPods, SUVs, granite countertops, ringtones, (insert whatever shit here), that they have forgotten the things that made them more than simple house pets:

Freedom, Prosperity, Sound Money, Limited Government, Limited Reliance, Free Markets, the State will care for us and feed us at the expense of liberty of others. You know, goodies like that.

Ugh. They DO outnumber us. As Hayek would say, we are well on our way to the Road to Serfdom.

As per design.
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"And be sure not to forget to vote, every chance you get, for the candidates of your "free???" choice." :rolleyes: :p
 
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