Are there any issues you disagree with Paul on?

[eduardo89]

I was happy when I heard the reasons Ron Paul does not support the death penalty anymore. He changed his mind for the same reason I did. After Illinois released so many condemned men from death row with DNA evidence they put a moratorium on the death penalty.

Since the reintroduction of the death penalty in 1976, less than 50 people have been exonerated from death row. Only 17 due to DNA evidence. Of course, that's 17 too many. An innocent man should never be put to death, but let's get the numbers right.

During this time I changed my stance on the death penalty. Poor people are more likely to get the death penalty. The fact that it takes 20 years to put someone to death does not make the threat of death a deterrent to crime. If it is not a deterrent then what is it? It is nothing but revenge carried out by the state for the sake of the victims family and it does not serve the people. I would be all for the death penalty in some cases if they carried it out in a timely fashion, like tomorrow at noon. Then it would have a deterrent affect. I say if the families of victims want someone dead they have to participate and throw the switch themselves.

I agree to some extent. I'm pro-death penalty. However, the way it's been applied I do not agree with, but I don't believe it's because of what the death penalty is. I think it's because the judicial system is completely broken. That needs to be fixed.

 

[eduardo89]

You need to take a stroll around your ER/ED, a children's hospice, or a general hospice.

I volunteered for 6 years at a children's hospice. It didn't change my stance, I'm 100% pro-life and always will be.

 

[vechorik]

You do not have the right to end your life because your life does not belong to you. It belongs to God and He alone has the power to give and take life.

I'm glad life is so simple for you, so black and white without having to think about gray areas.
I once thought as you. After taking care of a dying woman for 6 months, when she was very near the end and screaming in pain, the family removed her from oxygen and shot enough morphine into her to kill her. I only regret we didn't make that decision earlier. I hope someone is around to be so kind to me if I'm ever in that situation (and I hope you and YOUR version of a loving and merciful God are not around).

 

[eduardo89]

I'm glad life is so simple for you, so black and white without having to think about gray areas.
I once thought as you. After taking care of a dying woman for 6 months, when she was very near the end and screaming in pain, the family removed her from oxygen and shot enough morphine into her to kill her. I only regret we didn't make that decision earlier. I hope someone is around to be so kind to me if I'm ever in that situation (and I hope you are not around).

You see compassion there, I see manslaughter at the very least.

 

[vechorik]

I was happy when I heard the reasons Ron Paul does not support the death penalty anymore. He changed his mind for the same reason I did. After Illinois released so many condemned men from death row with DNA evidence they put a moratorium on the death penalty.

During this time I changed my stance on the death penalty. Poor people are more likely to get the death penalty. The fact that it takes 20 years to put someone to death does not make the threat of death a deterrent to crime. If it is not a deterrent then what is it? It is nothing but revenge carried out by the state for the sake of the victims family and it does not serve the people. I would be all for the death penalty in some cases if they carried it out in a timely fashion, like tomorrow at noon. Then it would have a deterrent affect. I say if the families of victims want someone dead they have to participate and throw the switch themselves.

I feel the same. MS state has the "good ole boy system" in the courts just as they do in politics.
It's always a matter of who you know and how much money you have.
People lie in court, just as they lie everywhere else.
Kill someone on death row and then find they are innocent? Who then is responsible for murder?

 

[vechorik]

You see compassion there, I see manslaughter at the very least.

I see it as treating someone the same as I would want to be treated (you know, Golden Rule)
I would also do the same for a dying animal.

 

[eduardo89]

I see it as treating someone the same as I would want to be treated (you know, Golden Rule)
I would also do the same for a dying animal.

You shall not murder. That trumps pretty much everything to me.

 

[otherone]

You shall not murder. That trumps pretty much everything to me.

Since when does Man's law trump God's Law?

 

[eduardo89]

Since when does Man's law trump God's Law?

That's not man's law. It is one of the 10 commandments He gave us.

Anyway, let's not derail this thread. If people want to discuss suicide they can start another thread

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

I disagree with him on targeting davis-bacon in his Restore America proposal. I understand the need to detach Unions from government. I also understand the need to detach the financial markets from government. Financial markets have a far greater impact on the economy than Unions. Why not add a repeal of Gramm-Leach-Bliley and Glass-Steagall in the Restore America plan? Ron Paul opposed this legislation in the late 90's when it was being debated. He was right on about the impact of layered and cascading regulation. This bill was supposed to deregulate and what it ended up doing was piling on more regulation loopholes.

So, yeah, I disagree with Ron Paul including a Union busting repeal, but not including a crony capitalism repeal.

Also, what do you mean by repealing Gramm-Leach-Bliley AND Glass-Steagall? We should end the first one but restrore Glass-Steagal.

 

[specsaregood]

I volunteered for 6 years at a children's hospice. It didn't change my stance, I'm 100% pro-life and always will be.

Which years were those?

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

I think NASA's funding should be increased.

What I would do is remove the adventurism and attach it to the military.

 

[eduardo89]

Which years were those?

From when I was 12 till 18.

 

[specsaregood]

From when I was 12 till 18.

so when youwere in boarding school in germany? or was that when you were getting drunk in russia? i forget. And werent those the years you were non-christian and cavorting around with easy women?

 

[eduardo89]

so when youwere in boarding school in germany? or was that when you were getting drunk in russia? i forget. And werent those the years you were non-christian and cavorting around with easy women?

I was a lapsed, non-practicing, apathetic Catholic during those years, but don't see how that has anything to do with it...

 

[specsaregood]

I was a lapsed, non-practicing, apathetic Catholic during those years, but don't see how that has anything to do with it...

I was just wondering how you found the time to volunteer for 6 full years when you were travelling all around the world.

 

[eduardo89]

I was just wondering how you found the time to volunteer for 6 full years when you were travelling all around the world.

Because the hospice was about 5 miles away from where I lived. And why would I have time to volunteer? It wasn't a full-time job. And I wasn't traveling all around the world.

 

[specsaregood]

Because the hospice was about 5 miles away from where I lived. And why would I have time to volunteer? It wasn't a full-time job.

you are just a tough nut to peg. i thought you were in germany and also in russia during those years. man, you really are a nomad of the world.

 

[eduardo89]

you are just a tough nut to peg. i thought you were in germany and also in russia during those years. man, you really are a nomad of the world.

I was in Russia after high school.

 

[specsaregood]

I was in Russia after high school.

so it was a german hospice then?