Are Libertarians the New Neocons?

[Brian4Liberty]

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If/when it advances liberty, yes, as a libertarian not only can but must.

Wrong. There is nothing libertarian about foreign interventionism and regime change.

There's no contradiction between monarchism and libertarianism.

As long as you are the benevolent Monarch, right? Sorry wrong again.

Liking the Simpsons is consistent with being a NAZI.

Eating pasta is consistent with being Osama bin Laden.

All neoconservatives are globalists. Not all globalists are neoconservative.

Weren't you inferring in another thread about mass shooters that being a nationalist is consistent with being a mass shooter?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Wrong. There is nothing libertarian about foreign interventionism and regime change.

As long as you are the benevolent Monarch, right? Sorry wrong again.

Whatever you say

All neoconservatives are globalists. Not all globalists are neoconservative.

Weren't you inferring in another thread about mass shooters that being a nationalist is consistent with being a mass shooter?

No, I was saying that several of the recent mass shooters in fact were nationalists.

 

[showpan]

Well I'm not sure if I am a libertarian even though I passionately relate to many issues backed by Libertarians. The last time I voted was for Ron Paul and before that was Ross Perot...lol....I do not support Rand since he votes for sanctions and other issues I strongly oppose. I now refuse to participate in a corrupt process and the libertarian party has not ran a legitimate candidate since Dr. Paul. I took the name Democratic Republican for a FB group when the fake teaparty's surfaced so that no one else could hijack Thomas Jefferson's party and use it for their own twisted agenda on social media. I don't use it much since I do not wish to make it to the top of some FBI list although I do post here and there ...lol...I am definitely anti NWO. The neocons have a history of infiltrating a party. They did it to the Republicans first and then the democrats and now they are one party with 2 faces. Good cop-bad cop. It's obvious that they will claim the Libertarian party too. They already have the largest ones, now it's time to work down the list. The state of this countries current political parties are very sad indeed. As I talk to more of our youth, (early to mid 20's) I find that many of them are becoming more aware. The 30 something yr olds and above are mostly brainwashed Trumpsters...lol...even though he filled the swamp with the worst of the worse neocons

 

[devil21]

Well I'm not sure if I am a libertarian even though I passionately relate to many issues backed by Libertarians. The last time I voted was for Ron Paul and before that was Ross Perot...lol....I do not support Rand since he votes for sanctions and other issues I strongly oppose. I now refuse to participate in a corrupt process and the libertarian party has not ran a legitimate candidate since Dr. Paul. I took the name Democratic Republican for a FB group when the fake teaparty's surfaced so that no one else could hijack Thomas Jefferson's party and use it for their own twisted agenda on social media. I don't use it much since I do not wish to make it to the top of some FBI list although I do post here and there ...lol...I am definitely anti NWO. The neocons have a history of infiltrating a party. They did it to the Republicans first and then the democrats and now they are one party with 2 faces. Good cop-bad cop. It's obvious that they will claim the Libertarian party too. They already have the largest ones, now it's time to work down the list. The state of this countries current political parties are very sad indeed. As I talk to more of our youth, (early to mid 20's) I find that many of them are becoming more aware. The 30 something yr olds and above are mostly brainwashed Trumpsters...lol...even though he filled the swamp with the worst of the worse neocons

It is interesting how, in my experience at least, that the really young ones (18yo range) seem to sense that something is very wrong these days and are hungry to learn. Perhaps the dearth of education now being received in public schools has left their minds very hungry for knowledge. Some kind of knowledge to fill the void that was left by years of training-for-the-tests-public-schooling. Those that go on to colleges are receiving the socialist indoctrination "knowledge" while those that do not, seek it out from other sources. This is why it's important for liberty minded older people to actively seek out young ones to talk to instead of letting that void be filled by anti-liberty sources.

 

[showpan]

Exactly. I am able to open the eyes of many younger kids these days. They know something is terribly wrong so I give them the resources and knowledge to paths that lead them to the truth. Once I get them to bite, they are eager to awaken themselves and question everything. You can lead a horse to water.

 

[angelatc]

Bump

A mere 6 months later and McAdams looks like a genius.

 

[Warlord]

While neoconservative and MIC interests often have extreme overlap, they are not the same thing. Anyone who promotes war can be suspected of being MIC swamp crony war profiteers, but it is not always the case. There are political zealots (such as neocons or teocons) that promote war without profiting from war. They are all over the internet.

FreeRepubilc.com is bad. I've got 2 strikes for posting Ron/Rand articles in the last week. Most of them are thirsty for war and their admins squelch any opposition.

 

[Todd]

The two are mutually exclusive. We need to be students of language and not allow people to define terms differently. By definition you cannot be a libertarian if you are espousing Neoconservatism.

I am speaking from a place of experience on this since I am a recovering Neocon.

 

[Warlord]

The two are mutually exclusive. We need to be students of language and not allow people to define terms differently. By definition you cannot be a libertarian if you are espousing Neoconservatism.

I am speaking from a place of experience on this since I am a recovering Neocon.

Non-interventionism is the better term Todd. That basically covers 'mind your own business', or quote General Washington: 'no foreign entanglements'

 

[Sammy]

Red Headed Libertarian is a Neocon who claims to be a Libertarian for example!

 

[Brian4Liberty]

FreeRepubilc.com is bad. I've got 2 strikes for posting Ron/Rand articles in the last week. Most of them are thirsty for war and their admins squelch any opposition.

Soleimani was bad, mkay? Any other argument or consideration is anti-American and anti-libertarian, mkay?

 

[Warlord]

Soleimani was bad, mkay? Any other argument or consideration is anti-American and anti-libertarian, mkay?

I think that's the view taken by most in the GOP. I think FreeRepublic reflects the party generally. Lots of whoopping for war, death and destruction. We're screwed. I don't think Rand can ever get the nomination in a party like that.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Soleimani was bad, mkay? Any other argument or consideration is anti-American and anti-libertarian, mkay?

I think that's the view taken by most in the GOP. I think FreeRepublic reflects the party generally. Lots of whoopping for war, death and destruction. We're screwed. I don't think Rand can ever get the nomination in a party like that.

I see lots of people saying we should leave and come home on FreeRepublic, they just believe that the killing of Solly was correct.

 

[Warlord]

I see lots of people saying we should leave and come home on FreeRepublic, they just believe that the killing of Solly was correct.

They ban you if you post Ron/Rand articles. And you get lots of abuse.

 

[jmdrake]

I see lots of people saying we should leave and come home on FreeRepublic, they just believe that the killing of Solly was correct.

They ban you if you post Ron/Rand articles. And you get lots of abuse.

Ron Paul has rightly questioned the killing of General Soleimani.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Ron Paul has rightly questioned the killing of General Soleimani.

I have RIGHTLY answered the questions about it.

 

[jmdrake]

Nope


A few neocons falsely may have claimed to be Libertarians ( Bill O'Really, Tucker Carlson etc).

That said, neocon/globalist/foreign firster lobbies have been actively trying to recruit politicians from all sides including Libertarians but with exception of a few gullible, simple minded folks here and there, they are shunned.
Notorious Neocoservative and social liberal Democrat Sheldon Adelson funded GOP-Neocon-Lite wing lately is trying to do same to legitimize their globalist interventionist agenda/Iran war push for cause of parasitic foreign-first lobbies but they are bound to fail. Bold leadership by likes of rookie Amash so far, others are also starting to see things through to stop hijacking of GOP by globalist neocons.

NEXODUS: Neoconservatives from both parties joining GOP-Adelson (MAGA)

#1 GOP Cash Bundler, Sheldon Adelson, Calls For US to Bomb Iran w/Nuclear Weapons

Tucker is not a Neocon, more like a Paleocon as is Trump. The Koch's and CATO are not Libertarian. Libertarians are simply a useful tool for them. CATO is a Libertarian scam run by Neocons.

Tucker has been good against the push for war with Iran. So has CATO. Trump, on the other hand, has shown his neocon-light colors.

https://www.cato.org/research/foreign-policy-national-security

 

[jmdrake]

I have RIGHTLY answered the questions about it.

BS.

 

[Aratus]

Bump

A mere 6 months later and McAdams looks like a genius.

we just had another debate. i'm about to do up a poll with a focus on Bill Weld.

 

[Todd]

FreeRepubilc.com is bad. I've got 2 strikes for posting Ron/Rand articles in the last week. Most of them are thirsty for war and their admins squelch any opposition.

Lol. I was banned after 4 posts in 2008 for daring argue with them about Ron Paul