Are Americans in Line for Gitmo?

[Anti Federalist]

Can anyone really believe the bullshit that 9/11 was a hijacking after the fact that the u.s. government has declared u.s. citizens as suspects and enemy combatants and now places absolute power into the dictator oh I mean President's position to do whatever he pleases with everyone?Including start wars wherever he wants.

Yes.

Here is a response to that very statement from a local forum that I frequent:

This is the first time in American History that we've had nuclear-capable Muslim Kamikazes inside the borders of the USA.

This is warfare for which we will always be unprepared.

And people in this forum are nice cross section of the American people as a whole.

They are too busy arguing over Obama this, and Bush did that, that they lose sight of the real problem.

 

[Anti Federalist]

My response:



Why is it that you would not trust O-bomb-ya to run healthcare, but you do trust him to run this abomination?

So, let me see, the strategy is simple then:

They hate us for our freedoms.

So, take away all freedom.

The right not to be whisked off to a government prison and become an unperson, just on the say so of some government functionary, that's not like librarians bitching about the PATRIOT Act muzzling them after getting questioned by the FBI.

This is about as serious a violation of basic, fundamental, constitutional and human rights as there can be.

Furthermore, the idea that there are Muslims hiding behind every rock with a nuke is laughable.

They couldn't get a Muslim "terrorist" onboard a plane with a dud firecracker in his drawers, without a government agent holding his hand.

If a nuke goes off in the US, just like the sophisticated anthrax spores in 2001, it will only come from one place.

Our own government.

 

[DamianTV]

If some sort of explosive or incindiary device does some how manage to make it on a plane, I'd put money that the person had help from the Govt in order to get it on there in the first place. Once it happens however, they pick one of the Passngers who would most likely and unfortunately be dead, thus, have no way to defend themselves, label them as a Terrorist, and use it as an excuse to start yet another war with someone else. That is how False Flags work. The Govt either knows about the expected event and allows it to happen, or they are the ones making it happen.

They are drowning in a deluge of information and have nary a single drop of wisdom to guide them.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

My response:



Why is it that you would not trust O-bomb-ya to run healthcare, but you do trust him to run this abomination?

So, let me see, the strategy is simple then:





The right not to be whisked off to a government prison and become an unperson, just on the say so of some government functionary, that's not like librarians bitching about the PATRIOT Act muzzling them after getting questioned by the FBI.

This is about as serious a violation of basic, fundamental, constitutional and human rights as there can be.

Furthermore, the idea that there are Muslims hiding behind every rock with a nuke is laughable.

They couldn't get a Muslim "terrorist" onboard a plane with a dud firecracker in his drawers, without a government agent holding his hand.

If a nuke goes off in the US, just like the sophisticated anthrax spores in 2001, it will only come from one place.

Our own government.

I owe you a + rep

 

[flightlesskiwi]

the U.S. government is declaring war on u.s. private citizens. The military now technically places u.s. citizens in the category of "the enemy" not just when it pertains to foreign policy but now under domestic policy 100 percent. If you read between the lines, the u.s. federal government's war of aggression and future holocaust against the u.s. citizenry has already been declared. Maybe people will wake up in the middle of the night,dragged out of their beds with guns pointed to them and sent to FEMA camps to be categorized for extermination.The news stations have yet to mention the Nazi style hitler power granted to the president.

thing is, you don't really have to read between the lines.

the intention is clearly in the language offered in the bill--- the ambiguity is solid evidence of the intent.

apologies if the next statements get this thread thrown into hot topics, but this type of legislation doesn't just crop up for no reason. this is a well planned, perfectly timed and preemptive strike. something very wicked this way comes. it will be under the flag of falsity.

also

the whole Obombya veto chirade leads me to believe that he is looking for support with the libs. i strongly feel that this is all planned out:

Obombya vetoes-- progressive "civil liberties" hawks will be satiated and continue turning their cheek when it comes to BO's war drum and he gains traction.

the bill STILL passes because it has the support in both houses-- neoconservatives did their job in the eyes of fear-mongered "conservative" voters and they'll be voted back in, despite the economy. (perhaps i have a bad sampling here-- but the elderly "conservative" voters are OBSESSED with muslim ter-rists. when i say obsessed, i mean OBSESSED as in that is their #1 issue. close following is welfare and how it effects their SS payments. they want spending on defense and elderly care.)

and, unless Paul gets the nomination (and i'm not so sure that even if he did this wouldn't happen), Obombya will win the general. why? the establishment has figured out a way to get what it wants totally, unabashedly and with no holds barred. how? Democratic controlled ______ and Republican controlled ________. think about it-- a wonderful way to fool people into thinking you've got someone "fighting for your interests".

just like this bill can be dubbed as a civil liberties nightmare (president vetoes) AND strong on protecting the homeland against terror (CONgress passes).

the irony here is: they ARE fighting FOR YOU. and they are making it more and more evident as each bill passes that WILL have you if you stand up and fight for yourself.

 

[flightlesskiwi]

One in Seven people in this Country are on Food Stamps.

If those people on Food Stamps tried to stage any form of protest against their own Dependancy on the System, the System would undoubtedly relieve itself of its "obligations" to provide said services to those people. Most people already know all to well that what is expected of the System is to not offer any challenge against the System itself. The System expects that those in care of its Services will not try to bite the hand that feeds them. This creates the Perpetual Dependancy on the System, and establishes the Chain of Obedience. Police and Military are both also entrappend in this Perpetual Dependancy for their food, as they are paid for the work they perform, and are just as entrapped by that same Chain of Obedience that enslaves those in such desperate situations as to need the services provided by their Slave Masters.

The Chain of Obedience must be broken.

i agree with you that the chain of obedience must be broken.

and you make a very good point.

i wonder-- we always hear about how many people receive welfare and pay no taxes. and we hear about how many government workers there are, but have we ever thought to put the two together?? what percentage of americans are on outright welfare (SS, SSD, food stamps, unemployment, federal student worker programs, WIC, medicaid, medicare) and how many people are fed off the trough of taxpayers-- federal, state and local (and i mean all-- from the county clerk to the POTUS).

 

[John F Kennedy III]

thing is, you don't really have to read between the lines.

the intention is clearly in the language offered in the bill--- the ambiguity is solid evidence of the intent.

apologies if the next statements get this thread thrown into hot topics, but this type of legislation doesn't just crop up for no reason. this is a well planned, perfectly timed and preemptive strike. something very wicked this way comes. it will be under the flag of falsity.

also

the whole Obombya veto chirade leads me to believe that he is looking for support with the libs. i strongly feel that this is all planned out:

Obombya vetoes-- progressive "civil liberties" hawks will be satiated and continue turning their cheek when it comes to BO's war drum and he gains traction.

the bill STILL passes because it has the support in both houses-- neoconservatives did their job in the eyes of fear-mongered "conservative" voters and they'll be voted back in, despite the economy. (perhaps i have a bad sampling here-- but the elderly "conservative" voters are OBSESSED with muslim ter-rists. when i say obsessed, i mean OBSESSED as in that is their #1 issue. close following is welfare and how it effects their SS payments. they want spending on defense and elderly care.)

and, unless Paul gets the nomination (and i'm not so sure that even if he did this wouldn't happen), Obombya will win the general. why? the establishment has figured out a way to get what it wants totally, unabashedly and with no holds barred. how? Democratic controlled ______ and Republican controlled ________. think about it-- a wonderful way to fool people into thinking you've got someone "fighting for your interests".

just like this bill can be dubbed as a civil liberties nightmare (president vetoes) AND strong on protecting the homeland against terror (CONgress passes).

the irony here is: they ARE fighting FOR YOU. and they are making it more and more evident as each bill passes that WILL have you if you stand up and fight for yourself.

For the neocons I know this couldn't possibly be more true. Faux news has taught them to have an irrational fear of Muslims and whatever stone age country with a joke of a military they choose (Iran, North Korea, etc.)

 

[pcosmar]

Why not?
They get in line for everything else.