Apple Afraid of Competition, Tries to Ban New Samsung Galaxy Tablet

Yieu said:
Uhh... Apple did not create the Tablet PC design. The Tablet PC design has been around for about a decade!

It just wasn't terribly mainstream. But it was there.

Apple merely copied the Tablet PC design, like everyone else, because well, it is a standard design.

Apple has no standing to claim copyright on the Tablet PC design. Again, Apple did not innovate, design, or create the Tablet PC design.

This is like Apple trying to claim copyright on all monitor designs, all PC tower designs, or all laptops -- after other companies already made such things.

You don't wait for others to make something, copy it (and the iPad IS a copy of the Tablet PC design), then claim copyright on it!
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This is a load of prevaricating barroom hogwash and does not have anything to do with actual IP protection in a court of law.

Rev9
 
Revolution9 said:
This is a load of prevaricating barroom hogwash and does not have anything to do with actual IP protection in a court of law.

Rev9
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So... what I said is "a load of prevaricating barroom hogwash" even though what I said was factually correct?...

Was there a need to make it into an attack? Jeez!

Edit: And if you're going to so rudely attack me, the least you could do is back up your claims, or be nice about it. Apple suing over this is no different from someone coming out and copyrighting the Desk and suing all other companies that make desks.
 
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Revolution9 said:
And few apps scattered about here and there. Thank the IT ghawdz that Flash does not play on my iPads. I am so effing sick and tired of lousy flash ads taking up screenspace and cpu cycles. If this Samsung runs Flash it must kill the battery pronto.

Rev9
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I just received one for my b-day and it lasts about 9 hours for me loading flash the whole time, watchin youtube vids, reading here, etc. and it loads everything rather quickly.

I dunno a whole lot about apps, but there seemed to be plenty of of them in the app store, many of which are free.
 
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LOL.
Apple is acting like O-Bummer.
MONOPOLY is the root of ALL EVIL.
There's nothing good coming out of monopoly.
Every good things in life are coming from competition, not from monopoly.
 
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Another thread with Rev9 providing nothing to back up his position, slobbering over Apple's cock and stringing together a bunch of words in a desperate attempt to both attack another user and attempt to be funny. Sadly, he fails again.
 
Well they are both rectangular.

But as far as I can tell, that is where the similarity ends.
 
evilfunnystuff said:
I just received one for my b-day and it lasts about 9 hours for me loading flash the whole time, watchin youtube vids, reading here, etc. and it loads everything rather quickly.

I dunno a whole lot about apps, but there seemed to be plenty of of them in the app store, many of which are free.
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I develop apps for both. I know the marketplace for both. The reason it will never compete with iOS on the app part is the various companies use this and that and not the other making a cross platform compile a royal pain with having to set different flags for each variation and debugging exactly why this will do what that won't given the same codebase. Windows phone platform is hobbled as well from not being able to use .NET, which would allow many applications to cross compile to it instead of a whole port with a new codebase in a different language, new SDK, new API. Commercially this is prohibitive for indie studios to tackle and the iOS install base is much much higher and climbing exponentially.

Best Regards
Rev9
 
Yieu said:
So... what I said is "a load of prevaricating barroom hogwash" even though what I said was factually correct?...

Was there a need to make it into an attack? Jeez!

Edit: And if you're going to so rudely attack me, the least you could do is back up your claims, or be nice about it. Apple suing over this is no different from someone coming out and copyrighting the Desk and suing all other companies that make desks.
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It is. You state all these priors and then jump to the conclusion you did. I call that a load. They are in an IP battle. They will get their due whether by licenses or judgement. It is alot more than just a shiny black rectangle they ripped. Or do you think American companies should spend millions or billions on tech and human interaction with said tech to have it ripped off like a gucci handbag knockoff and let some oriental company make the profit for the work done in the marketplace and research and development by an American company?

Rev9
 
Revolution9 said:
I develop apps for both. I know the marketplace for both. The reason it will never compete with iOS on the app part is the various companies use this and that and not the other making a cross platform compile a royal pain with having to set different flags for each variation and debugging exactly why this will do what that won't given the same codebase. Windows phone platform is hobbled as well from not being able to use .NET, which would allow many applications to cross compile to it instead of a whole port with a new codebase in a different language, new SDK, new API. Commercially this is prohibitive for indie studios to tackle and the iOS install base is much much higher and climbing exponentially.

Best Regards
Rev9
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So what kind of apps does the apple store have that I wont be able to find a competitive product in the android market?
 
KurtA said:
While I'm not aware of Apple's specific claims, this would appear to be an issue of violation of intellectual property law. Apple certainly recalls when Microsoft ripped off their operating system years back (and rose to prominence by blackmailing IBM into paying extra fees for their OS). I doubt Apple is eager to repeat that experience. So if someone else is simply copying their design, stealing the fruits of Apple's hard work, I hope Apple blows them completely out of the water and stomps them completely out of existence. It would be a good message to send to other pirates.

We've already seen how technology can stagnate when a company copies another's work. Had it been up to MS, computers not running their OS would not even work on the internet. Funds go to the pirates and dilute the rewards for the company that actually innovates.

So, assuming that Apple isn't blowing smoke, that significant aspects of their design were copied, I say, "Go get 'em Apple. And while you're at it, sue them out of existence for trying to rip you off!"

It's what should have happened to Microsoft. (And if it had, most of us could have avoided years of Windblows horrors.)

There is a difference between "Rolex" and "Rolux". For one, "Rolux" should not be tolerated.
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various companies use this and that and not the other making a cross platform compile a royal pain with having to set different flags for each variation and debugging exactly why this will do what that won't given the same codebase.
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Seems these products are not as similar as apple would like us to believe.

Not that I really care, as IP simply restricts innovation and competition in the markets.
 
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pcosmar said:
Well they are both rectangular.

But as far as I can tell, that is where the similarity ends.
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Not only is that where the similarity ends, but that's also all the patent appears to protect: the rectangular design of the Industry Standard Tablet PC.

Here is the EU patent: http://www.scribd.com/doc/61944044/Community-Design-000181607-0001

Please note that this is NOT a USA patent, and that Samsung's device is already legally sold in America.

This is a European Union patent.

Take a look at the patent. It appears that Apple has patented the industry standard shape of the Tablet PC. Just the shape, mind you.

How is this any different from trying to patent the shape of a laptop?

robmpreston said:
Another thread with Rev9 providing nothing to back up his position, ... to both attack another user and attempt to be funny.
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This isn't the first time he has attacked me, it's probably the 3rd or 4th, and the 1st time he attacked me it was 100% baseless (well, it was baseless every time), I was more than polite, and he swore at me furiously in response for no reason at all, when I wasn't even arguing with him. His posts got deleted, but I wish it was still there so everyone could see how baseless the attacks were. It was way out of hand and off base.

Revolution9 said:
It is. You state all these priors and then jump to the conclusion you did. I call that a load. They are in an IP battle. They will get their due whether by licenses or judgement. It is alot more than just a shiny black rectangle they ripped. Or do you think American companies should spend millions or billions on tech and human interaction with said tech to have it ripped off like a gucci handbag knockoff and let some oriental company make the profit for the work done in the marketplace and research and development by an American company?

Rev9
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I state all these facts and then display the logical conclusion to those facts. This is not the same as a ripoff Rolex or Gucci bag. This is an industry standard design that Apple has patented after the design has been an industry standard for about a decade or more. They patented the Rectangular shape of the Tablet PC. And that is just ridiculous. By the way, you keep mentioning that they are an American company, but this is an EU patent, and Samsung's device is sold in America.

In conclusion... what I stated is no reason to make personal attacks!
 
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