Anyone else object to being called "Libertarian"?

[LibertyEagle]

No. I am simply sick and tired of being preached to by MEGA POSTERS on this site or any other site for that matter. Simple facts if you have mega thousands of posts online you are not doing much in the real world so I really do not respect the opinions of MEGA POSTERS. I am calling them out. And I can take the heat. For too long MEGA POSTERS have trampled all over this board. They believe they have some kind of ownership stake by their number of posts. What they do is run off and talk over new people and members who post infrequently.

It is similar to radio traffic where one or more user of a channel "steps on the signal." Same shit.

You have no idea what you are talking about. But, go ahead and be a rude asshole.

 

[mport1]

Yes I object. People like Gary Johnson, Bob Barr, Wayne Allyn Root, Neal Boortz, and Bill Maher call themselves libertarians. I really don't want to be associated with them or the Libertarian Party. However, I often do find myself falling into the trap and using the term.

 

[porchdog]

If you want to argue with me on this fine, but that is all it will be a "debate." And as we debate our future is destroyed. It's time to take the spirit of libertarianism and merge it with a powerful institution that already exist, the Republican Party and make it ... the party of Liberty For All!

I thought that what the Ron Paul Revolution was about............If you are looking for a moderate democrate you will have to look to the to the right of the republican party.......

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Personally I considered my self a Libertarian after this election cycle. The way the Republicans have treated Ron Paul and all the new coming (young people) disgust me! The way the election cycle votes and conventions for delegates have turned into a mess. The blatant lies, scams, cheating, and arrogates they have done to us make me never to want to be a republican again.

Third party is where they want you.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Yes I object. People like Gary Johnson, Bob Barr, Wayne Allyn Root, Neal Boortz, and Bill Maher call themselves libertarians. I really don't want to be associated with them or the Libertarian Party. However, I often do find myself falling into the trap and using the term.

So what if some people misuse the term? It's generally best not to let others define you. The word "liberal" has been misused and abused for ages too. That doesn't change its real meaning. Just use a qualifier-like "small l libertarian" or something. If you're marketing something, however, you may need to make up something different.

 

[LibXist]

Oh, you're a libertarian...you just haven't realized it yet. Give it some time.

 

[Tenbobnote]

Libertarian is OK but I prefer; voluntarist, anarcho-capitalist, Rothbardian, etc.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

If you want to argue with me on this fine, but that is all it will be a "debate." And as we debate our future is destroyed. It's time to take the spirit of libertarianism and merge it with a powerful institution that already exist, the Republican Party and make it ... the party of Liberty For All!

I thought that what the Ron Paul Revolution was about............If you are looking for a moderate democrate you will have to look to the to the right of the republican party.......

The RP R3volution is and always has been about ideas (RP says this himself)-it's an intellectual revolution. Don't get too hung up on parties, btw. This is only a temporary solution and a vehicle for communicating with Boobus.

 

[cheapseats]

Third party is where they want you.

TWO-PARTY STRANGLEHOLD is where they want all of us. DUH.

Only Monarchy/Dictatorship would be worse than our Duopoly.

Lemme rephrase: Monarchy or Dictatorship would be IDEOLOGICALLY worse than duopolistic stranglehold, but they might actually be more efficient slash cheaper...depending how much FORCE Autocrats are willing to bring to bear.

 

[mport1]

So what if some people misuse the term? It's generally best not to let others define you. The word "liberal" has been misused and abused for ages too. That doesn't change its real meaning. Just use a qualifier-like "small l libertarian" or something. If you're marketing something, however, you may need to make up something different.

I'd agree to some extent. However, words have meanings in other people's minds that don't necessarily match dictionary definitions. I don't want them to have preconceived notions about what my positions are based on their understanding of a term.

This is why I typically don't refer to myself as an anarchist. By the true definition of the word, that is what I am. However, people associate the term with violent, bomb throwing, socialists with whom I don't want to be associated. I'll only use the term for shock value to show people that anarchists can be normal, non-violent, and capitalist.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I'd agree to some extent. However, words have meanings in other people's minds that don't necessarily match dictionary definitions. I don't want them to have preconceived notions about what my positions are based on their understanding of a term.

This is why I typically don't refer to myself as an anarchist. By the true definition of the word, that is what I am. However, people associate the term with violent, bomb throwing, socialists with whom I don't want to be associated. I'll only use the term for shock value to show people that anarchists can be normal, non-violent, and capitalist.

Exactly! That's the value of marketing/branding-come up with words and phrases that people associate with "good" things. That's why I'm not too upset that RP calls himself "conservative" in mixed company. It's a way to sell ideas. Like it or not, people are easily fooled by labels and slogans.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Yes I object. People like Gary Johnson, Bob Barr, Wayne Allyn Root, Neal Boortz, and Bill Maher call themselves libertarians. I really don't want to be associated with them or the Libertarian Party. However, I often do find myself falling into the trap and using the term.

You forgot Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity (LOL)

Seriously, not only do I not object....I've called myself "Libertarian" for over 20 years. Ron Paul ran for POTUS as a Libertarian in 1988...what's the problem?

 

[Carlybee]

You forgot Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity (LOL)

They are to libertarianism as Donald Trump is to hairstyling.

 

[tuggy24g]

Third party is where they want you.

They might want you, but I will always be registered republican until they learn to change the rules so third party people can vote in primaries. Other then that I do not think I would ever vote for a republican or democrate besides Ron Paul again.

 

[porchdog]

Personally I considered my self a Libertarian after this election cycle. The way the Republicans have treated Ron Paul and all the new coming (young people) disgust me! The way the election cycle votes and conventions for delegates have turned into a mess. The blatant lies, scams, cheating, and arrogates they have done to us make me never to want to be a republican again.


I have always been a republican, but after this election, I will join the ranks of the libretarian party as I have stood witness to the republican party turn traitor to our core principals and move farther left than we could have ever emagined.... LONG LIVE RON PAUL AND THE REVOLUTION..............

 

[Crotale]

My twitter profile begins: "Libertarian, classical liberal, traditional conservative ...". The fact that I can associate with numerous labels shows that labels are just that - labels. They are an image, not substance.

I try to avoid labels when I can, however, if need be I would define myself as a voluntarist or an anarcho-capitalist. Across the pond here in the UK, the term libertarian is starting to be hijacked by nationalists and statist conservatives in the United Kingdom Independence Party. As is the term free-market, in fact, their leader claims that "open borders is completely different to free market". GRRR.

 

[culvereric]

I do not object. I say I'm a voluntarist or an-cap because I am consistent and honest.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

This is why the founders warned against political parties.

 

[dancjm]

A lot of Ron Paul supporters ARE libertarians. I personally am offended that people refer to libertarianism like it's a dirty word.

This.

I don't really label myself, but call me a Libertarian if you want, I can only take it as a complement.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

This is why the founders warned against political parties.

This^^ one thing I agree with the founders on.