Anyone else find it really odd being on the same side as Lindsey Graham?

Nobody started liking him, apparently you aren't very smart.

Yeah I think for me at I can't disagree with ops title. Being on the same side (America) as Graham with people like Graham starting wars does feel odd. Yet the subject of the post was about a side show that was orchestrated to make the guy look better and scam people's money.

This is sort of stuff manipulates people all the time, it's double think.
 
It is strange to me that we have anyone here that can't see the difference between normal (2 sides of the same coin) politics and what is happening now. The normal statist machine loves Clinton/Bush politicians and they fear Trump politics. This is not a game of theater that TPTB control, it is genuine fear. They can't control Trump and that scares the crap out of them.

The game has changed.

Yes, it does, and yes, it has.

I'm, quite frankly, amazed that somebody has not taken a shot at him yet.

The near unilateral roar of disapproval from the usual suspects indicates that he has pissed off all the right people and they don't know what to do about it.
 
Nobody started liking him, apparently you aren't very smart.
That hurts.

On second thought, his oh so passionate[ly gay] rambling about unjust travesties and mockeries of justice have persuaded me greatly.

First, let's try Lindsay Graham for his guilt in effecting war crimes and crimes against humanity/the American people in general and then we can concern ourselves with the oh so pressing matter of potential robed kangaroo's potential scores ago crimes.

Though admittedly I am not so sophisticated as to give two shits about what any of them say so forgive me if I don't quite understand your adulation.
 
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That hurts.

On second thought, his oh so passionate[ly gay] rambling about unjust travesties and mockeries of justice have persuaded me greatly.

First, let's try Lindsay Graham for his guilt in effecting war crimes and crimes against humanity/the American people in general and then we can concern ourselves with the oh so pressing matter of potential robed kangaroo's potential scores ago crimes.

Though admittedly I am not so sophisticated as to give two $#@!s about what any of them say so forgive me if I don't quite understand your adulation.

What adulation?

I have said repeatedly that I wanted someone better than Kavanaugh and that Graham is no good, the point is that the Demoncrats are trying to create a precedent that will allow them to block the appointment or election of anyone to the right of Marx by digging up a few liars to make obviously false accusations.
 
The most unethical sham of his career in politics? That is quite clearly bs.

Wasn't he one of the chief liars who led the United States into immoral wars around the world?

It is hard to get past that sensationalized bit.

Ya I know, 9/11 was worse, and the response to that was even worse. But somebody needed to get up and say what he did. I still don't like him, but for those 5 minutes he was the only person in the room willing to get up and say the right thing.
 
Ya I know, 9/11 was worse, and the response to that was even worse. But somebody needed to get up and say what he did. I still don't like him, but for those 5 minutes he was the only person in the room willing to get up and say the right thing.


Fellow Patriot Tom Cotton has the heart to say what many won't.

Five minutes of truth... you don't want to miss this.
 
Brother, maybe I'm being naive, but I want to think that Trump IS the "something different".

In 2016 I did not think that, but after a couple years and closely watching all of this, I've come to think that maybe, just maybe, he is.

I know this for a fact: he has all the right enemies.

Been a long time since I posted here. This is an awesome truth Bomb AF, and represents my thoughts exactly.
 
One thing I have not seen many people talking about is how awesome it would be if Dems shoot themselves in the foot by blocking Kavenough, pissing off half the country in the process, thereby losing the November Midterms, and then we get an even more conservative SCJ like Amy Coney Barrett.
 
I do find it funny how Graham says what happened with Kavanaugh is one of the most unethical things he's ever seen. Since when did politicians care about ethics?

GOP is finally learning from DNC, starts posturing and beats them at their own game. Suckers didn't know how to play before. :cool:
 
Been a long time since I posted here. This is an awesome truth Bomb AF, and represents my thoughts exactly.

If only there was a way to harvest large amounts of information about the pulse of the people, run it through high powered automated analytics, from those results formulate a plan to determine how best to continue to manipulate the people, then disseminate that plan to controlled people in positions of influence.

That would be amazing and scary! I'm glad that's the stuff of sci-fi films only and way off in the future...
 
Anyone else find it really odd being on the same side as Lindsey Graham?

Enjoying Graham attacking the Democrat clowns in the Senate and their disingenuous, salacious circus does not necessarily put him “on the same side”.

More of an enemy of my enemy situation.
 
Enjoying Graham attacking the Democrat clowns in the Senate and their disingenuous, salacious circus does not necessarily put him “on the same side”.

No, but it does indicate that you're getting caught up in the show. I get the whole, "enemy of my enemy" thing, but they are ALL our enemies. They can fight over that power using clever one-liners and despicable tactics all they want - it's still a battle to determine who will control us. We mustn't get so caught up in the circus that we forget the fact that they are all clowns.
 
No, but it does indicate that you're getting caught up in the show. I get the whole, "enemy of my enemy" thing, but they are ALL our enemies. They can fight over that power using clever one-liners and despicable tactics all they want - it's still a battle to determine who will control us. We mustn't get so caught up in the circus that we forget the fact that they are all clowns.

If a major theme of the "show" is due process, then that is a good excuse to step in and promote it. That's what Lindsey Graham was doing, too.

What you still don't understand was that this was a much bigger issue than Judge Kavanaugh.
 
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Brother, maybe I'm being naive, but I want to think that Trump IS the "something different".

In 2016 I did not think that, but after a couple years and closely watching all of this, I've come to think that maybe, just maybe, he is.

I know this for a fact: he has all the right enemies.

If a major theme of the "show" is due process, then that is a good excuse to step in and promote it. That's what Lindsey Graham was doing, too.

What you still don't understand was that this was a much bigger issue than Judge Kavanaugh.

The irony of equating Lindsay Graham and Judge Kavanaugh with anything related to "due process" is too absurd (and obvious) to bother with beyond pointing out said irony.


Btw, anybody else notice that AF's name keeps adding and removing the dash between the two words periodically?
 
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The irony of equating Lindsay Graham and Judge Kavanaugh with anything related to "due process" is too absurd (and obvious) to bother with beyond pointing out said irony.

The issue at hand was due process, and Lindsey Graham was on the correct side of the issue. I am completely aware that Lindsey Graham is not always on the side of due process, and so is everybody else here.

That doesn't mean that we shouldn't argue for due process, which is what your position seems to be, or that we should ignore when Lindsey Graham is on the correct side of the issue when he has the power to voice his concerns.
 
Kavanaugh is a guy who has lifed his whole life in highly sheltered environments among the professional set. There's a certain type of dirty "street" behavior that he simply could not have been familiar with by experience... until it rape hoaxed him personally.

I would not be surprised in the slightest if Associate Justice Kavanaugh, influenced by people like Clarence Thomas, ends up having "champion of due process" as his legacy. Every time he reads "Justice Kavanaugh, who has been accused of rape, ..." will push him further and further in that direction. And he's read it a LOT already, and will continue to read it for the rest of his life.
 
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