A few things.
There are different ways to fight
We do not disagree.
and fisticuffs is not going to work here.
I remain to be convinced of this. I fully acknowledge that it is a last resort tactic, but that does not invalidate it. When someone is endeavoring to bring you vast harm or destruction and escape is not a viable option, physical warfare becomes the only option to the good old-fashioned folding like a cheap suit. If you feel you are going to die or be horribly maimed whatever you do, then I say take as many of those bastards with you as you are able. And here I speak of other humans in general and not of cops in specific.
You have to remember that every member of species Boobus Americanus STILL has no idea what's going on. I know people who here me make joking side-comments about how my 16 year old girl would have been convinced to get her top surgery by now if she was in public school, and they look at me like I'm some kind of monster who concocted the whole idea in my head, because they're literally clueless about it being reality.
Again, we agree.
When those boobs hear you've made an app to call people to help you kill police, they're going to believe that's what it is.
And how does that bear upon the evolving situation where, say, a couple of MS13 dangerpunx are breaking into your front door, presumably bent on some real mayhem?
The TV is going to tell them that you are dangerous to our democracy and they're going to cheer when you "fall down" on the concrete several times on your way to the police cruiser.
You're buying nothing here because this is already happening on a mass scale. Remember the MOVE bombing in Philly some forty years ago? I remember people cheering for the police who were keeping a raft of uppity N**I**GG**E**R**ZZ from getting... well, more uppity. What you describe is old as the hills and I'm not sure I see it going away any time soon, so we can for all practical purposes regard it as a gravity issue; a given.
I am in no way imaginable advocating for violence, save in the rightful defense of one's life, that of his family, his friends, his community, some no-account stranger walking down Main Street at 1AM... I'm not even advocating for violence in those cases, save as the absolute last resort. But bringing concerned citizens together in such a fashion as to give perpetrators or would-be perpetrators pause to think thrice about what it is they are proposing is, IMO, a
necessary condition for bringing propriety to a land that has lost it.
There is a point beyond which physical force, or the threat thereof, becomes the only option to surrendering to crime. This is indisputable fact. If you don't thwart the mugger, you get mugged. Talking sense to him will avail you nothing. Talking badwords will likely motivate him more sternly toward his original intent. Drawing your 1911 from a holster and blowing a hole in him such that he now has other priorities in what remains of his life, works like a charm. It is a regrettable turn, mind you, but not nearly as much so as surrendering your life to him, which is precisely what you risk when you give in because you don't know what that person may be thinking. We are, after all, talking about threats to life and limb; not hurtful words or some clown absconding with a stick of your chewing gum.
If you survive what the cops do to you in your cell, and if they decide to feed you more than once every week, and if you don't mysteriously commit suicide, and if you can afford the seven-figure legal fees, and if the case goes to SCOTUS, and if the conservative justices get some sort of epiphany on police violence they've shown no evidence is forthcoming, then you will have won your 15 round title fight and your purse will be you're not dead.
Forgive my candor, but this is defeatist thinking of the "what-if?" variety. While it is wise to consider all that you have listed here, to simply give up because of evil humans, well then why not just retrieve your sidearm, sit on the corner of your bed, and bring an end to the endless torrent of what-if horrors that might befall you?
Life isn't safe, just, or fair, so you have a choice with every breath you draw: be a Freeman navigating the risks and dangers of the human world, or toss up your hands and become the compliant serf or even slave. All these sorts of situations have to be taken on a case by case basis. There are few, if any, universally applicable answers, but my point is to have on hand as many options as possible. Having friends show up to a botched breach operation may indeed prove a saving factor, not only in terms of living or dying, but in the legal terms with which so many appear to be singularly concerned. Witnesses on your side probably cannot hurt. A cadre of armed citizens arriving on scene could prove the difference between things going minimally wrong, and something far worse. It could prove the opposite. These are the risks that we all face in the choice to stand tall or lay down. There are no flawless solutions, but there are optimal ones. Having as many options open to you is perforce better than having less than that many.
The most effective fights against the state are going to be the ones where the fight the state wants isn't allowed to happen.
We strongly agree. By all appearances, Theye want us in a civil war. To conclude anything less than this based on what is happening in the world is indicative of eyes wide shut, the absence of an IQ, or someone peddling feces. We are being pushed and prodded every which way imaginable, especially the eville™ white males.
Making counter claims about what is and isn't self defense is still appealing to THEM to determine and that's the fight they want.
This certainly is sensible, and yet it is utterly irrelevant to the man who's front door is being kicked in by forces unknown, not all of which are police.
I have a counterproposal that I've had in mind for a while, though. I envision an app dedicated to enacting free market justice.
Your use of "justice" might nerit reconsideration, given how clapped out that word has become, courtesy of the subhuman dregs of the left.
Let's say you have a new neighbor move in. You meet and introduce yourselves, but because you're a Boobus specimen and you have kids, and he's asian and you're also legit a little racist, you want to look up the background of this stranger who is now right next to you. So you go to your neighbor tracker app to find out if there's anything bad this person has done - and you discover his name is Lon Horiuchi, and the app proceeds to tell you what he did that the government isn't telling you.
Because, of course, we want to do a better job at keeping pedophiles and murderers out of our neighborhood, especially since they're getting released so often now. It's not our fault Derek Chauvin is in there - all we're trying to do is give the people information about the bad shit that's happening all around them.
And of course the app will be reaaaaaaal careful to point out legal ways to react to this. Such as, not talking to the person in question. Not entering contracts with him. Not inviting him to block parties. Keeping him off church committees. But don't ever initiate violence.
All well and good. I like it, in fact, but there are problems of data integrity there, and here I speak not in the technical sense, but that of the truth. How is such information vetted such that the consumer is readily able to reaffirm its value? Mike Ryan moves in next to you and it says he is a child molester, when in fact that bit refers to Mike Ryan who lives three miles away on the other side of town. All things have their challenges.
But again, I say that this is irrelevant to the immediate need for real help from real people because your bacon has just landed in the fire. It could literally be a fire, or who in hell knows what. Perhaps the barn has collapsed on your husband. Perhaps you do NOT want police on your property during such a crisis, and you know that they will come, invited or no, if they get wind of it. They may even be cool guys, but if you don't want them there, that is your prerogative.
When I ground the ends off of two of my fingers on Nov. 7 1974, ~12:20 PM, guess who showed up first to the scene? Freehold Twp police, and not the ambulance. Being 16 and having the ends of two of my fingers opened wide to the world, I didn't care. I was just glad that someone was going to help. But that was a different world. Today, cops arrive and fuck everything up based on the false assumptions they carry, going in. And again, this is but one example, but it is a very valid one. Sometimes, people need to have help of a variety that is decidedly not of the "government" type, and we should be working as a culture toward such goals. The more we rely on Themme, the more power we cede to them, and being humans - or lizard people - Theye will predictably, consistently, and faithfully come to demand more and to abuse what they have, all on your dime.
Once again, and I repeat myself unto the lot of you wanting me to die in my sleep tonight: Mr Shit, meet Mr. GetOffThePot.
Noting wrong with what you are suggesting. I applaud the idea, in fact, as it is yet another option for those who might care to make use. But bear in mind that in the far broader sense of things, we the people have been doing the same things over and over, expecting different results. Well here's the breaking news: nothing has changed for the better, at least not in anything better than the most marginal of senses. It is clear to me that we need to be doing other things, different things, because writing to our Congressmen has bought us doodlysquat.
The trick is what goes into that database who decides it.
Very much so, and because humans, the proposition becomes immediately problematic, even in the best cases.
So now imagine the rising startup, Fisharmor Datasystems Inc., captained by the intrepid Fisharmor hisownself, a modest and moral man of great reputation and fine character. And damned be if every byte of data in his tables isn't of the finest truth value. Then one day, being human, the intrepid Fisharmor retires, perhaps even dies in bed, surrounded by his loved ones in a bittersweet farewell to a great man and a life well lived. Fisharmor Datasystems finds itself at a nexus, is sold to Douchepig Datasystems, headed by a board of leftist, government-fellating scum who not only don't give a shit about data integrity, but use Fisharmor in weaponized fashion to advance their masters' political agendas. This is but one of the manifold hazards inherent to the negotiation of a world populated with, or at least lead by, morally bereft people. And so once again we come full circle to the need for the rest of us to stand ready to kick ass and take names when some of us run right past the pale, going amok and causing all manner of shit to befall innocent people in ways that cause real and demonstrable harms.
That's where you can be real open with what the operating principles are, who the judges of these cases are, reams of notes about what went into the decision to log an action that needs to be displayed on the person in question, etc. Boobus isn't going to read any of that any more than they're going to read Apple's TOS. All they're going to care about is whether their neighbor is a pedo and the app will tell them that.
Then DO IT. Build Fisharmor Datasystems. If you have a sound idea, I'd even help you, seeing as few others appear interested in doing much more than complaining. But you will need more than just that, I tell you this in earnest. People need at some point to act in ways repugnant to their basic selves, but which they recognize as being necessary in the face of grave threat.
And the Philip Brailsfords of the world might start to learn that when people are actually allowed to know what you did, they're not going to let it go.
Ah, but a mere data app will not achieve this. You need a moral and
engaged people. Few are up to it. They have no stamina, no sand, no guts, and to be plain, they revel in their personal corruptions, such as they may manifest, so long as it has its happy ending... in the massage-parlor sense of happy.
Consider all the information that is coming forth in the wake of twitter; the rank and rancid corruption, not to mention the outright criminality of these felonious scum. Now consider, just as one example, the current and apparent mean state of the response of the "left": circle the wagons and stonewall. They are corrupt beyond redemption, and so no amount of truth served will avail you the least show of individual integrity because there
IS NONE with people such as those. Not only are they scum, they fully luxuriate in the fact, are wed to being such, and have no intentions of ever becoming anything different, much less something better. They want their filth and crime and perfidy and they want literal, material death for anyone who challenges them on it. With such people, there is quite literally and resoundingly, no hope. So what, then, do you do? Lay down? Talk won't cut it.
More options are better than fewer, and 'tis all I am saying.
