Another source has come out saying Ron Paul tinkering with 3rd party run.

wgadget said:
Well, there's always the Johnson/Paul ticket, ENDORSED by Sarah Palin.
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This really needs to be a 'Coalition Party' or a Prosperity Party with all secondary parties and popular candidates, coming together to challenge the duopoly of oligarchs and Fascists.
 
RP Supporter said:
Johnson/Paul would be awful. I don't really mind Gary, but enthusiasm for the ticket would be all Paul. He needs to be the headliner, otherwise I think you'd see a lot of people who love Paul but are usually loyal republicans would vote Romney, just because they don't bother to see who plays second fiddle.
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If Ron Paul were anywhere on ANY ticket, the freedom-loving public would know about it, imo.
 
AuH20 said:
Paul/Palin could crack 30% nationally. And could hypothetically raise sizable funds.
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Because of sore loser laws, I wonder if Palin/Paul is a possibility ... could she get access to all 50 states? I have no clue how those things work.
 
UpperDecker said:
Why would you be against it? I understand that you want Paul to be top billing and in the main debates, but he could be a Cheney-like VP with a lot of power. I will take him in any form possible at this point.
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Except what is the likelihood of winning? the MAIN goal would be to get into the debates, with winning a 'you never know' possibility. And RON PAUL based on polling against O and MR to date, would get into the debates. Gary, based on polling to date, would not.

The POINT of Ron running would be to have him, with his credibility from his record, debating O and MR, imho.
 
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sailingaway said:
Except what is the likelihood of winning? the MAIN goal would be to get into the debates, with winning a 'you never know' possibility. And RON PAUL based on polling against O and MR to date, would get into the debates. Gary, based on polling to date, would not.

The POINT of Ron running would be to have him, with his credibility from his record, debating O and MR, imho.
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Like I said, I completely understand where you are coming from on this. For me, i think it would be worth it having Paul coach Johnson for the debates and it would also be hilarious to watch Ron dismantle Biden. But like I said, I feel that Paul would have the power just with the VP title. It would hopefully be like having Paul in the debates in Johnson's body.
 
No1butPaul said:
Because of sore loser laws, I wonder if Palin/Paul is a possibility ... could she get access to all 50 states? I have no clue how those things work.
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I think we are over focused on getting on all 50 states. If we have to run a write in campaign in a few, or miss one or two, I don't see that as a big problem, particularly if we don't think they are states where we would win electoral votes, in any event. The issue is getting into the DEBATES, and both time Ron was polled against O and MR last year, he broke 15%. (It would need more current polls, though.) But here is a study of the ballot access / sore loser issue someone looked at in 2007: http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/0...t-generally-apply-to-presidential-candidates/
 
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In a three way contest you wouldn't need access to all 50 states.

RP could put California and Texas into play which basically blows any electoral college map out of the water immediately.

You have to think in electoral college terms.
 
if anybody remembers, i need the polls that show ron over 15% when polled with obama and romney
 
idiom said:
In a three way contest you wouldn't need access to all 50 states.

RP could put California and Texas into play which basically blows any electoral college map out of the water immediately.

You have to think in electoral college terms.
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please elaborate!!! i really want to hear this
 
There would have to be some Democratic support for such a ticket.

You have the blue dog Joe Manchin, Ben Nelson, types. I guess the Kucinich, Nader types would be on board.

And as I mentioned earlier, big money is needed. Thiel would give. Possibly Perot? The Koch brothers?

Adelson and Soros would be pissed, and probably dump a lot into their vested interests.

I have warned about third party runs in the past, but if there was actually a legitimate shot at this I would work my butt off for it.
 
GeorgiaAvenger said:
There would have to be some Democratic support for such a ticket.

You have the blue dog Joe Manchin, Ben Nelson, types. I guess the Kucinich, Nader types would be on board.

And as I mentioned earlier, big money is needed. Thiel would give. Possibly Perot? The Koch brothers?

Adelson and Soros would be pissed, and probably dump a lot into their vested interests.

I have warned about third party runs in the past, but if there was actually a legitimate shot at this I would work my butt off for it.
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He'd be more likely to get support from the progressives than the blue dogs. 'traditional - centrist bipartisanship' isn't Ron, he'd go with those principled on the left who care about NDAA and Patriot Act etc. Unfortunately few in national office seem to care much. Nader should. Ron COULD if he WOULD, get matching funds, up to $250 for each of his donors (it would match the amount they donated up to $250 if I read that right.) He refused to take matching funds in 2008, but in 1989 said that while he wasn't quite there yet, he might be able to be convinced that due to taxpayer funding of the major parties and ballot access and debate bias, that matching funds might be ok if you weren't running for a major party.
 
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