Another source has come out saying Ron Paul tinkering with 3rd party run.

That's why I'm probably on every domestic enemy list tabulated by the feds. I've been banned here once for threatening bodily harm on one Lamar Alexander. You have no idea what you're talking about and frankly you're out of your depth. I am far more politically wise than the Jim Jones gang in here.

How is bragging and admitting guilt politically wise?
 
Great. Remember that 'the other side' in many forms will be on, as well.

I seriously doubt this will be an issue. The call will in most likelihood be one sided with everyone muted. Some conference systems allow a lot of control like press 1 if you want to ask a question. Freeconferencecall.com isn't one of them. If he un-muted, some people using VoIP would set up feedback loops or on speaker would set up feedback loops and the call would have to be reset and everyone would have to call back in. Also, everyone will try to speak at once and it becomes total fail. The only way around this is if you can ask to speak via a keypress and only you get un-muted or if there has been a prior call for people that want to talk or ask questions and they are told - OK - your turn... the opposition has also messed up audio on these calls deliberately in an effort to sabotage our communications.

I have some experience in this area...

-t
 
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I'm the voice of reason. This is suicide bomber stuff. Nothing to gain. No money = self-mutilation. If you can't raise at least 400 million, you have no business running. Where is Dr.Paul going to get this kind of money?
You don't need so much money when you have dedicated grassroots, but you do need media attention, and make no mistake they will have to pay attention, especially if it gets him into the debates (which I think just getting in the debates would be another huge victory for liberty).

I've already changed my mind about treading carefully here, because it has been proven time and time again that even if you receive negative attention, it will often actually help to bring the true issues to light. I'm certainly not advocating violence, but it is also documented that there are more favorable stories on certain issues after a few get out of hand at a protest than there are for peaceful protests that are easily ignored. Again, not advocating violence in the least, but a similar concept can be applied here. Why do you think the media went from smearing Dr. Paul to just ignoring him completely? Because you can't smear dirt on someone that doesn't have dirt, and it will backfire as it gets people talking.

And seriously, we can handle the blowback BS rhetoric the establishment is already ready to use against us anyway if Romney loses... Also, can use the same narrative that Cavuto did, that Ron might have as many if not more of Obama's young previous voters.
 
I seriously doubt this will be an issue. The call will in most likelihood be one sided with everyone muted. Some conference systems allow a lot of control like press 1 if you want to ask a question. Freeconferencecall.com isn't one of them. If he un-muted, some people using VoIP would set up feedback loops or on speaker would set up feedback loops and the call would have to be reset and everyone would have to call back in. Also, everyone will try to speak at once and it becomes total fail. The only way around this is if you can ask to speak via a keypress and only you get un-muted or if there has been a prior call for people that want to talk or ask questions and they are tolk - OK - your turn... the opposition has also messed up audio on these calls deliberately in an effort to sabotage our communications.

I have some experience in this area...

-t

that's good to know. still they will be listening. I don't know that there is anything to be done about that, but it is something to keep in mind.
 
What is politically wise to one person is selling out too far for another. The continuum is represented here, and name calling isn't appropriate.

I don't think anyone is selling out. I won't be voting for Romney. Ron Paul lost and it's time to move on. Unless he came up with a serious amount of funding, in which he could broadcast his unique message and possibly garner in upward of 30% of the popular vote, I don't think such an endeavor would be productive. Now if he somehow procured the backing of a few very wealthy donors, than I'd support him. But if this is going to be the typical, low profile third party run, it's just not worth it. It comes off really petty.
 
I don't think anyone is selling out. I won't be voting for Romney. Ron Paul lost and it's time to move on. Unless he came up with a serious amount of funding, in which he could broadcast his unique message and possibly garner in upward of 30% of the popular vote, I don't think such an endeavor would be productive. Now if he somehow procured the backing of a few very wealthy donors, than I'd support him. But if this is going to be the typical, low profile third party run, it's just not worth it. It comes off really petty.

after what happened at RNC I don't think so, given Ron had enough states file to put him into nomination, only to have them change the rules on the spot to require more, and given they blatantly cheated him out of delegates or he would have had the 8 states for the HIGHER requirement as well.
 
I honestly hope Ron Paul is just floating this rumor out there to scare the RNC to change the rules back. It would be genius.
 
Mike Wallace just heard rumor out of MN that RP is considering VP for Gary.??

edit Company just arrived, I'll be on conference call 11:00pm EDT.

If you mean Ron would BE vp I'm against it unless the idea is GJ bows out and lets Ron to the fore. It is RON I want in the debates.
 
Any significance of the conference call being done from Alaska? (Palin)
duh, I didn't even think of that! From Daily Paul:

Bix Weir: If Palin Supports Ron Paul 3rd Party Candidate Game Over For Gop
Submitted by Apple on Sat, 09/01/2012 - 17:27

It no longer matters if you like or dislike Sarah Palin, the fact of the matter is that she has the power to destroy any chance the Republicans have of winning the Presidency if she chooses to run or if she supports Ron Paul as a 3rd party candidate.

The GOP leadership knows this and they are in serious trouble. If they alienate both Ron Paul and Sarah Palin it is GAME OVER.

THIS statement by Palin
Look what happened in the mid 1800's. The Whig party went away and the Republican Party surfaced. Because the electorate got sick and tired of the party fighting for power and not doing the will of the people. If history is an indication it is a possibility. If the Republicans don't remember what the planks in the platform represent ... that is opportunity to prosper and thrive in the most exceptional nation in the world. We do that through a free market. If the Republicans become like the liberal left and democrats, I wouldn't be surprised if history didn't repeat itself.
is a clear warning...play by the rules OR ELSE!

Submitted by Apple :D
 
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Palin and Paul would be devastating.
 
If you mean Ron would BE vp I'm against it unless the idea is GJ bows out and lets Ron to the fore. It is RON I want in the debates.

Why would you be against it? I understand that you want Paul to be top billing and in the main debates, but he could be a Cheney-like VP with a lot of power. I will take him in any form possible at this point.
 
Johnson/Paul would be awful. I don't really mind Gary, but enthusiasm for the ticket would be all Paul. He needs to be the headliner, otherwise I think you'd see a lot of people who love Paul but are usually loyal republicans would vote Romney, just because they don't bother to see who plays second fiddle.
 
I can't tell you how many times I've said that ... a WINNER. But if he has to run on the L ticket, can't see how it's possible.

Paul/Palin could crack 30% nationally. And could hypothetically raise sizable funds.
 
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