Another case of voter fraud in NH town

[MikeFallopian]

I welcome your perspective. You realize though, that I'll try to convert you.

I think it would be dereliction of duty if you didnt

 

[Libertyiswinning]

I'm not a plant, just someone who doesn't think Paul would make an effective president (but would like to see some libertarian ideas gain traction and influence in US politics regardless). You should welcome the outsider perspective - a campaign whose candidate polls 3-4% nationally can't afford to keep looking inwards. One of the things I like a lot about Paul is that he's a constant voice of dissent. Dissent and legitimate debate should be valued among his supporters, but on this board it seems people would rather call dissenters trolls and plants.

MikeFallopian,

1. Since you don't support him, who do you support?

2. How would other candidates' forums react to a Ron Paul supporter being there?

3. How have you been treated in this forum?

4. If you don't support RP, why are you here?(If you have no answer for #1, exclude this question.)

Just curious

 

[MikeFallopian]

MikeFallopian,

1. Since you don't support him, who do you support?

2. How would other candidates' forums react to a Ron Paul supporter being there?

3. How have you been treated in this forum?

4. If you don't support RP, why are you here?(If you have no answer for #1, exclude this question.)

Just curious

1. I don't really support any of the candidates. I like some things about Biden, Dodd, McCain, Paul, and Richardson, but I don't feel passionate about any of them (and the first 2 have dropped out). I disagree strongly with some of Paul's issues, so I probably won't vote for him. I might write in Ahhnold, even though he can't legally be president.

2. I've never looked at another candidate's messageboard, so I have no idea.

3. I've been treated pretty well, considering that I disagree with a lot of the prevailing attitudes here. I do want to see Paul finish strongly (I'd like to see libertarian views better-represented in American politics), and I think my posts have been constructive, so that probably helps.

4. I really dislike groupthink and the fanboy mentality, and I think there's an excessive amount of both on these forums. But beneath that, there are a lot of very smart and patriotic people who have a perspective that can't easily be found elsewhere.

 

[Catatonic]

I'm kind of tired for all the apologists on here. This is why there needs to be transparency. Its good that people are bringing inconsistencies like this up. Its possible this is just a mistake that got fixed but we have a right to know for sure what the hell happened. Seeing vote tallies go up and down is a huge red flag for voter fraud. Personally I need something better than 'well its possible someone just made a mistake'.

If i made a mistake like this on my taxes would 'oops' fly with the IRS? I'm sure you've all gotten pissed off at someone, sometime, for making a mistake with something that is important to you. Nothing should be more important than your vote.

 

[TER]

1. I don't really support any of the candidates.

Well, one of them is going to be your President. Start figuring out whom that might be since it will probably affect the rest of your life.

 

[coyote_sprit]

An effective president needs the support of Congress. I don't think Paul would have that support for his current platform.

My ideal candidate would have a cautious foreign policy and do everything possible to avoid new wars, but not instantly pull out of Iraq and definitely not pull out of places like South Korea. I think the UN is flawed but ultimately a force for good, so I wouldn't want to disengage from it (same with NATO).

Economically, I don't mind the fed but would like to see additional oversight and accountability. Spending, especially on earmarks, should be curtailed.

Regarding privacy, I think that wiretap warrants should be harder not easier to get, and any person who engages in illegal wiretapping should be prosecuted. If an agency like the FBI allows its agents to run illegal wiretaps, the head of the agency should be fired and prosecuted.

I also think Gitmo should be closed and "intense" interrogation techniques like waterboarding should be clearly classified as torture. Terrorist suspects should be given swift and fair trials.

The biggest area where I break with Paul is the role of the federal government. I think departments like Energy, Education, the FDA, CIA, FBI, etc. are essential and should stay. My impression of state governments is that they are by and large inefficient, corrupt, and much less qualified to govern that the federal level is. I really don't see the appeal of dramatically increased states' rights.

Regarding drugs, I'd like to see marijuana legalized, but not other drugs. At the very least, medical marijuana should be allowed.

That congress, you know one day the people are gonna regain control of the congress.

 

[DON'TSTOP]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=R9_wX6kXgDQ

There quite a few videos about fraud:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=AgCBN-aekkw

 

[AbolitionistX]

I think the UN is flawed but ultimately a force for good...

ROTFLMAO!!

Economically, I don't mind the fed but would like to see additional oversight and accountability.

OMG! You can't possibly be informed and not mind the Fed!

I think departments like Energy, Education, the FDA, CIA, FBI, etc. are essential and should stay. My impression of state governments is that they are by and large inefficient, corrupt, and much less qualified to govern that the federal level is. I really don't see the appeal of dramatically increased states' rights.

You think the State governments are corrupt, but don't
have a problem with all of the federal agencies!?!?! Such a typical "sheeple" programmed response!

Regarding drugs, I'd like to see marijuana legalized, but not other drugs. At the very least, medical marijuana should be allowed.

There isn't one good thing that's come out of the "War on (some) Drugs"... not one.

 

[brjohnst]

An effective president needs the support of Congress. I don't think Paul would have that support for his current platform.

Economically, I don't mind the fed but would like to see additional oversight and accountability.

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Isnt this like saying that you prefer to more closely watch a private company steal your wages?

Dude the FED is lowering interests rates while staring at a Debt crisis.

 

[MikeFallopian]

ROTFLMAO!!

Look at the UN's involvement in armed conflict prevention since the end of the cold war. Look at their track record with nation building (cheaper and more effective than a US force). Look at the WHO and the World Bank. The UN is definitely a (flawed) force for good.

OMG! You can't possibly be informed and not mind the Fed!

The Fed has existed throughout all of the US's most prosperous times. The conditions that led to the depression were exacerbated by the Fed, but those mistakes won't likely be made again.

You think the State governments are corrupt, but don't
have a problem with all of the federal agencies!?!?! Such a typical "sheeple" programmed response!

Sheeple? Most people learned that name-calling isn't a substitute for logic and argumentation sometime between 1st and 5th grade. In my experience, state governments are less efficient and more corrupt than the federal level. I believe that increased states' rights would lead to much more severe inequality between states in different geographic regions. I really don't get the argument that a government encompassing 50 states is inherently evil, and a government encompassing 1 state is inherently good. That hasn't been my experience.

There isn't one good thing that's come out of the "War on (some) Drugs"... not one.

I agree, the war on drugs has been a huge failure. But there's a middle ground between where we are now, and having Oxycontin, morphine and cocaine on the shelf at CVS. I think that middle ground should include total decriminalization of marijuana as well as simple possession of most other drugs.