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ItsTime
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because we have seen what a scammer trevor has been from day 1? and there are far better ideas with less of spamming and scamming skills then break the matrix has that can do a far better job.
Oh ya and The Blimp = biggest failure in grassroots history. $500k spent with ZERO return.
How about we get some people in congress, I do not see one topic about BJ's win in the top content at break the matrix. Just kooky truther crap that you can find at reason.com or freedom.tv.
Oh ya and The Blimp = biggest failure in grassroots history. $500k spent with ZERO return.
How about we get some people in congress, I do not see one topic about BJ's win in the top content at break the matrix. Just kooky truther crap that you can find at reason.com or freedom.tv.
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I don't care who is running it. It has the stinch of pump and dump all over it from what I have read, in my opinion.
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If he was scamming, it would be hard for him to hide very long from millions of angry people who know what he looks like.
You will go to prison for scamming. Trevor has done many projects with me before, never did he come off as untrustworthy.
He built my first website and still has access to my server vicariously my accounts, hasn't scammed me.,
We put together ronpaulsacrossamerica.com, he didn't scam me.
And then he spearheaded Nov 5th. A project that he didn't try to scam people on.
And then Dec 16th. Didn't scam anyone.
Blimp. Didn't scam anyone.
He's got a track record. He is a known figure. If he is scamming you now, he is doing a piss poor job of it, because everyone of our cranky anus rippers are going to be spying on his every move, hoping they are the one who brings him down.
A sociological profile:
A Con Artist never lets you know who they are.. They don't want to be high profile.
They typically do not used more than one or two events to set anyone up. Takes too long. People who are cons, aren't patient enough to make money the traditional way.
Now with that said, don't expect to make money on this venture. Your investment will most likely be a donation with a chance of being returned.
But if you like the goal. You should evaluate what you can afford to gamble, and roll the dice.
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One thing the majority of us require, nay, demand--is complete and utter clarity in all finances in all circumstances. We didn't get that with the blimp and it's not happening with break the matrix either.
So, I'm going with what I know--supporting Congressional candidates.
So, I'm going with what I know--supporting Congressional candidates.
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BreakTheMatrix has not asked for any money at all. Period. How is that "pump and dump" (Options Trader) or in any way a nefarious plot to scam all of us? How are they scamming us without having asked for a dime?
I don't feel scammed at all. In fact, I feel hopeful and optimistic that finally we have the opportunity to take our message OFF-INTERNET to the mainstream, which is the one thing that is absolutely imperative if we expect our revolution to continue to gain ground.
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Trevor did SCAM during the 5th and 16th. He USED the grassroots to collect emails for HIM to use for his PERSONAL use. Unless he plans on paying every single person that made a youtube or mailed their mailing list to push the 5th then he has SCAMMED those who thought they were creating the list for THE 5TH OF NOVEMBER and nothing more.
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I am loving the new site..looks good
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Also the $2k PER MONTH PER PERSON involved in the BLIMP CREW.
They had what 5+ people on that team, that was over $10k A MONTH to pay for "Grassroots efforts" of theirs. They even itemized it on their totals for everyone to see.
We do the grassroots efforts for free and they make $2k a month per person and complain when they only need $10k more to keep it up. Here was a thought, look in your bank account where all our money was.
There was alot of cheating going on with Trevors efforts. He probably still holds onto that email list like it is the holy grail.
I complained about that blimp from day one as well as that race car idea among others. This cable show blows them all out of the water.
Pretty much what I see wanted is to become a "big player" to be able to get the message out there. Great idea, however how much money is going to be created FOR PROFIT and what would actually go to the REVOLUTIONARY efforts?
I have nothing wrong with people making a profit HOWEVER if you actually research the blimp deal you will see that they made A NICE PROFIT just for getting hotel stays, food and everything paid for.
I hope this network will NOT fall into the "Gimme Gimme" mentality even though I believe it will within its first successful year.
They had what 5+ people on that team, that was over $10k A MONTH to pay for "Grassroots efforts" of theirs. They even itemized it on their totals for everyone to see.
We do the grassroots efforts for free and they make $2k a month per person and complain when they only need $10k more to keep it up. Here was a thought, look in your bank account where all our money was.
There was alot of cheating going on with Trevors efforts. He probably still holds onto that email list like it is the holy grail.
I complained about that blimp from day one as well as that race car idea among others. This cable show blows them all out of the water.
Pretty much what I see wanted is to become a "big player" to be able to get the message out there. Great idea, however how much money is going to be created FOR PROFIT and what would actually go to the REVOLUTIONARY efforts?
I have nothing wrong with people making a profit HOWEVER if you actually research the blimp deal you will see that they made A NICE PROFIT just for getting hotel stays, food and everything paid for.
I hope this network will NOT fall into the "Gimme Gimme" mentality even though I believe it will within its first successful year.
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Make contributions in the form of cash and get a receipt for all donations given.
Just in case.
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They aren't asking for money (and never asked for donations), just our support -
Here's an update that might help clarify things (posted today):
http://www.breakthematrix.com/node/6048
Here's an update that might help clarify things (posted today):
http://www.breakthematrix.com/node/6048
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true
the concern is if/when they have stock offers
that's when some worry about a possible scam
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i just found this thread and it seems like there is a lot of he said she said stuff going on.... so ill add my 2 cents
I spent a lot of time working in NH for OLFD, i spent my money and yours to make that happen. I spent a considerable amount of time working with Trevor Lyman, when we drove to LV afterwards, trevor was there too. at the end of the night when everyone would gather at murphy's to hang out and socialize after pounding the streets in 0 degree weather, trevor was off in the corner by himself on his computer, working on projects. Trevor put in a lot of hard work, his own money, his time, and his tears into the projects that he has created and followed through on. I know that at this point people are dissapointed in how the blimp project turned out, but in the beginning the majority felt like it was a fantastic idea, the idea and implementation of the blimp was not all Trevor. He was doing what he felt like people wanted (the majority of the people in this movement were all for the blimp)
as for the email fiasco, no one had used that program for emails before, and it was the same program we used for OLFD, all in all it was a shitty program, i agree.... however the MASSES of people who had signed up for one, signed up for the other, I admit that maybe we should have taken the time to create an email program that didn't have the problems this one did, but it seemed way more time consuming to do that than to just use the one we had. I HATED getting emails EVERY DAY for the 5th and the 16th money bombs, but i just dealt with it because i knew it was the program itself and not something trevor or vijay did for their own amusement.
i guess what im trying to say is that Trevor is a really really nice guy, and if you spent one hour talking to him in person anyone would be crazy to say that he would take advantage of an earth worm, nevertheless a ron paul supporter.
its so so hard to be the person "in charge" in these projects, stuff comes up that you couldn't even imagine what a pain in the ass it is to deal with... you end up being pulled in a hundred different directions, and never making everyone happy.
that being said, breakthematrix may be the portal to changing this country, maybe not, but its a good idea, and could bring everything together in one place.... i think everyone should at least check it out, give it a chance, and if you don't want to contribute don't.... but i wouldn't assume that its a scam based on its creators, or the people involved in it.
I spent a lot of time working in NH for OLFD, i spent my money and yours to make that happen. I spent a considerable amount of time working with Trevor Lyman, when we drove to LV afterwards, trevor was there too. at the end of the night when everyone would gather at murphy's to hang out and socialize after pounding the streets in 0 degree weather, trevor was off in the corner by himself on his computer, working on projects. Trevor put in a lot of hard work, his own money, his time, and his tears into the projects that he has created and followed through on. I know that at this point people are dissapointed in how the blimp project turned out, but in the beginning the majority felt like it was a fantastic idea, the idea and implementation of the blimp was not all Trevor. He was doing what he felt like people wanted (the majority of the people in this movement were all for the blimp)
as for the email fiasco, no one had used that program for emails before, and it was the same program we used for OLFD, all in all it was a shitty program, i agree.... however the MASSES of people who had signed up for one, signed up for the other, I admit that maybe we should have taken the time to create an email program that didn't have the problems this one did, but it seemed way more time consuming to do that than to just use the one we had. I HATED getting emails EVERY DAY for the 5th and the 16th money bombs, but i just dealt with it because i knew it was the program itself and not something trevor or vijay did for their own amusement.
i guess what im trying to say is that Trevor is a really really nice guy, and if you spent one hour talking to him in person anyone would be crazy to say that he would take advantage of an earth worm, nevertheless a ron paul supporter.
its so so hard to be the person "in charge" in these projects, stuff comes up that you couldn't even imagine what a pain in the ass it is to deal with... you end up being pulled in a hundred different directions, and never making everyone happy.
that being said, breakthematrix may be the portal to changing this country, maybe not, but its a good idea, and could bring everything together in one place.... i think everyone should at least check it out, give it a chance, and if you don't want to contribute don't.... but i wouldn't assume that its a scam based on its creators, or the people involved in it.
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