And so the character assasination of Cliven Bundy Begins!!!!!

WE didn't give them any ammo....so DON'T fall into the trap they're setting. We can't control what others say or do, but we CAN still stand for our principles, even when knuckleheads are being harassed. Newsflash: there are racists in this country, and while I don't know if Bundy is or is not one of them, that doesn't give the Feds the right to trample on him. If we allow this, who will stand for us?
The minute someone opens their mouth, it's ammo. That's why media/ TPTB play "Word Chess" with anything said then create the out of context attacks to distract. Exploitation is what America swallows; hook, line, & sinker. Bundy should of been coached/briefed/prepared for what was obviously coming, because it's too difficult for them to destroy the message, so TPTB destroy the messenger... now where have we experienced that before?
 
Let's get one thing straight. The issue was solidly about western land rights a issue very dear to my heart, but it was Bundy that brought the freaking race card into this. As much as I hate the MSM they didn't do this to Bundy, Bundy did it to himself and jerked the fucking rug out from under the people that supported him. There was absolutely NO freaking reason to start talking about Negros. He is not getting a clue either. Now he is using terms 167 years old in referring to the blacks as "the people", a term slave owners used for their slaves.
Godamnit I am pissed.

You have to ask yourself - what compelled him to go off on a rant about minorities and welfare? Was it asked of him? Was he baited?
 
Well, the video itself doesn't sound near as bad as the NY Times article. That's so weird isn't it? (not really).

Okay, so one thing that's frustrated me since the start of this thing is:

Freedom lovers need to learn how to go on the OFFENSE

When someone in the tea party or libertarian movement says or does something 'strange' or poorly thought out, there's absolutely no shortage of statist media outlets which will jump down with the full force of propaganda to perform an elbow-drop of character assassination on those groups.

I've been stewing over the fact that Harry and Rory Reid have been allowed to go in front of cameras and gloat about how 'this isn't over' with their smug 'can't touch this' facial expressions, and do so, practically uncontested. Where was the right's counterattack in the media? Why was Reid never exposed to broad daylight? Why were pictures of BLM snipers training their crosshairs on protestors, or BLM tasing protesters, not played over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over, as per the playbook of the statist left?

Constitutionalists and libertarians need to learn what the statists have known for some time:

What you say need not be the truth. All that is required is that you must say it as loudly as possible, as often as possible, and people will mistake it for truth. Until we learn to go on the offense, we will always find ourselves fending off attacks, leading to a slow, agonizing erosion of our cause.
 
First, the MSM barely covers the original encounter, and now suddenly THIS IS THE MAIN STORY IN THEIR EYES. Who sent the army to the man's property originally?
 
Glenn Beck is a real shyster. Watch out for the state run media he says!!!!!! Then he takes the New York Times selective extraction and uses it to lash out at Bundy.
 
By allowing the media to turn us away from what is really going on at the Bundy Ranch, you're basically saying you will allow the media to tell you what one can and cannot say.

First Amendment, anyone?
 
Bundy...I understand what you were trying to say...

You won the battle but you just lost the war...
I hate to say this, but you should probably make a deal with the gov. and end this mess...

No country for old men...
 
The minute someone opens their mouth, it's ammo. That's why media/ TPTB play "Word Chess" with anything said then create the out of context attacks to distract. Exploitation is what America swallows; hook, line, & sinker. Bundy should of been coached/briefed/prepared for what was obviously coming, because it's too difficult for them to destroy the message, so TPTB destroy the messenger... now where have we experienced that before?
I don't refute what you say here, but it only works IF WE BACK DOWN.
 
At 2:01 you can hear a voice say "transferred them...they just transferred them" I take that as he was saying the government just transferred the B,AA,N,C from plantation owners to themeselves.
 
Bundy...I understand what you were trying to say...

You won the battle but you just lost the war...
I hate to say this, but you should probably make a deal with the gov. and end this mess...

No country for old men...
Yep, I guess that's it. They win, we lose. Let's all fold like a cheap lawn chair over words someone said. Never mind the bigger issue...nah, one-sided racial sensitivities are much more important.
 
I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about this thread reinforces my theory that this site is infiltrated by statists.
 
Public opinion is what kept Bundy alive. All fine and dandy for keyboard warriors to blow it off but without public opinion he would have been Koresh. The eye of mordor didn't turn away from Bundy because of the peashooters aimed at it but because millions of eyes were watching it.
 
Yep, I guess that's it. They win, we lose. Let's all fold like a cheap lawn chair over words someone said. Never mind the bigger issue...nah, one-sided racial sensitivities are much more important.

The left always wins...it's their world now...
The right stands for nothing, they only react to the left...always on defense...

I don't want to see Bundy die...
 
Since Hannity, Kelly, and Van Susteran have been sympathetic to his plight, they should be sent that video in its entirety.

DK these people are $100 million dollar makers. Their business is news. If they go against it then you know where they stand. The media will throw acolytes to test the fires first. Social sites and article comments are being monitored as we speak. You hit on it earlier. Light up the fires. The next 12 hours will decide how, and how hard, the media controlled by oligarchy can respond without screwing the pooch.
 
Public opinion is what kept Bundy alive. All fine and dandy for keyboard warriors to blow it off but without public opinion he would have been Koresh. The eye of mordor didn't turn away from Bundy because of the peashooters aimed at it but because millions of eyes were watching it.

Don't help if you don't want to. Free world and all.

For anyone who wants to help, I've started a thread on Reid, and I would love help finding every damned thing we can on him. I also want to start a thread on the push back articles and radio shows. I saw something from World Net Daily, something from a black author, a black militia guy, AJ's show, Lew Rockwell, etc. earlier in this thread. Can I get help getting all of these together so we can use them in his defense?
 
The left always wins...it's their world now...
The right stands for nothing, they only react to the left...always on defense...

I don't want to see Bundy die...
LMAO....they only win if WE LET THEM WIN.

Are you waiting for "the right" (whatever that means) to react? Take the initiative. Even if all you can do is remind people on the Internet that this fight had nothing to do with race, and Bundy's comments don't change what we're fighting for, DO IT. Don't wait for anyone to give you your marching orders.
 
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