And so the character assasination of Cliven Bundy Begins!!!!!

klamath said:
The point is I don't have black welfare people sitting on porches being slaves to federal handouts, where I live. I have white trash Weed smoking people sitting on their porches being slaves to government handouts.
Bundy is toast. The feds will control that whole valley.
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so be it i suppose.

next.
 
JK/SEA said:
Cliven is a throwback to a different time.
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Yup. He may be a bigot but I don't think he's a white supremacist. I really can't refute his general argument either. The abortion rates & crime/welfare statistics prove that out. The black community has not fared well since LBJ's great society initiative.
 
pcosmar said:
No he didn't,,, but that is the spin that many are buying in to.

A lot of people picked cotton after slavery ended. He was suggesting that they work for a living, rather than sitting on a Government funded porch.

I remember a bunch of bullshit behind the Duck Dynasty Guys saying the same thing,, about picking cotton.
Poor white folks picked cotton too.
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I know people who have picked cotton, they all happen to be white.
 
phill4paul said:
Rightfully so with Rand doing outreach. F*ckin' people just do not know how to keep their mouth shut when fighting a PR war. This will now paint any militia members that support him as racists also furthering the anti-militia resentment.
I hate people. Damned if I don't.
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Indeed. This guy might as well have just killed himself on live air. Its a shame too, as he was winning; unforced error here.
 
klamath said:
The point is I don't have black welfare people sitting on porches being slaves to federal handouts, where I live. I have white trash Weed smoking people sitting on their porches being slaves to government handouts. Bundy is toast. The feds will control that whole valley.
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The TPTB want us all to end up like "the negro." Low income whites are following the same model of destruction. The number one enemy of social engineers is a stable family unit because in most cases it gives you an identity and self-respect.
 
Cliven isn't a good PR man, that's for sure. He thinks out loud a bit too much for facing the camera often. He also had trouble stating his case at the start, but his sons came in to aid, as well as some internet researchers.
 
Doesn't surprise me that something this stupid would come out of this guys mouth. I like to think of myself as a race realist (meaning most PC liberals would call me a racist), but what this guy said is just disgusting. He's a completely uneducated, close minded, and hateful. Him and Richard Mack are almost caricatures of the low intelligence, racist, white "freeman" types.

These are not people that I feel I have anything in common with or want as political allies.
 
AuH20 said:
Bundy was basically stating that it would be better for idle hands to gather an agricultural product than sitting on a porch all day waiting for government subsidies.
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If that's what he meant, he should have said that. Instead of talking about "Negroes picking cotton"

Seriously, you DON'T talk about Negroes picking cotton. Like, that should be rule #1 when giving a press conference.
 
Court of public opinion is worse than the controlled court rooms today. What a freakin' shame.
 
pcosmar said:
No he didn't,,, but that is the spin that many are buying in to.

A lot of people picked cotton after slavery ended. He was suggesting that they work for a living, rather than sitting on a Government funded porch.

I remember a bunch of bullshit behind the Duck Dynasty Guys saying the same thing,, about picking cotton.
Poor white folks picked cotton too.
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But that is not how he framed it Pete. It's there in black and white. He said "Are they better of as slaves, picking cotton..."

We can all argue the merits of what he was trying to convey till we are blue in the face. But as far as his cause goes he has done himself more harm than good in the way that he framed his rant or even in the particular need to make his rant regarding this. Can we agree on that?
 
pcosmar said:
Just for your Leftist Propaganda Education..

I present this.

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Ahh yes the classic "One time a black man made commentary about welfare, and therefore that justifies all racist behavior by white men" argument.
 
KABOOM

*crackling radiation detector sounds*

He just suicided himself and will take down with him anyone who continues to support him in the vicious world of public opinion. BLM and media is going to mop this up real quick.

Almost cartoonishly ridiculous.
 
This really sucks as I was just defending this guy over the past weekend to my mom, mil and other family over easter. Now I'm gonna get hit with this shit next we talk.
 
ClydeCoulter said:
People aren't listening, Pete, they just keep posting. :(
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Pete's not telling us something most of us don't already know. Neither did Bundy. But, dammit, it was an idiotic thing to say. It was poorly worded and it provides fodder for those in opposition to Bundy's cause. Anyone that doesn't understand that is not listening to what others are posting.
 
This maybe why the western cattlemen association wouldn't support him. They may have know he could turn into their worst PR nightmare.
 
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