And so it begins, U.S. troops start to withdraw from Afghanistan

When the trolls can no longer deny that Trump did a good thing they try to spin that thing as bad.
It looks to me that some of us are even more disgusted by this @Swordsmyth than lying Donald or sleepy Joe.
You can spin this all you want into things we didn't post, but that doesn't mean it's true.

Mission accomplished?
As the attention is now diverted from lying Donald for more than 3 years in his presidency NOT withdrawing any troops from the Middle East, and sending troops to chase migrants out of Syria so the EU can continue to be flooded by migrants.
While because of the lockdown we aren't even allowed to go to a restaurant or bar, for some reason it would be in violation of human rights to keep the migrants from coming here.

Can we soon expect a flood of Afghans coming to Europe?!?
Maybe doing some importing of recreational drugs on the side?
 
I love it.
When the trolls can no longer deny that Trump did a good thing they try to spin that thing as bad.

Maybe the President who stood up to China is actually working for them and the good thing was to help China, or maybe it is a sneaky way to attack China.
Either way it MUST be bad. (Since both helping and hurting China are deemed bad it seems it is the existence of America that is being objected to)


Funny, but most real Americans see ending the war as a good thing whether it helps or hurts China because it is good for America.

Or maybe not everything is good or bad....sometimes things just are. Good and bad is entirely perspective and subjective. Information and analysis isn't inherently good or bad. Anyone that filters everything through such a good/bad lens is a slave to duality. But you already knew that, didn't ya mormon?
 
And so it begins, U.S. troops start to withdraw from Afghanistan

So it begins, US troops move from Afghanistan to Middle East...
to keep up pressure on Iran from the other side and defend our closest allies.


Wall Street Journal
Afghan Pullout Leaves U.S. Looking for Other Places to Station Its Troops
U.S. military planners are seeking options to base forces and equipment in Central Asia and the Middle East after American and allied troops ...
2 days ago


Guess bringing them home was not the first answer that came to the minds of all the thought leaders facing this quandrum.
But OTOH, after America-First Trump escalated military action against Iran and ordered killing of Iranian General few months ago, tensions went up and so did mideast manpower needs.



Just for sake of discussion since I didn't read all the articles, can you point to where it's ever mentioned that any Afghanistan withdrawal means they're coming home?

I'm always reminded to listen to what they actually say, not what I think I want to hear. Perhaps Trump at some point said he's bringing them home but I didn't see that mentioned in what I read of the CFR's....err Biden's statements on Afghanistan.

Very good point that was.





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How American Politics Got Troops Stuck—and Killed—in Afghanistan

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The Obamas pose for a picture with the author at the grave of his friend Tyler Parten at Arlington National Cemetery in 2011. | Courtesy of Erik Edstrom

"The president tactfully asked to hear about Tyler’s life, and I told him. We took a photo, capturing the moment for Tyler’s family. It felt like a touching gesture from a genuinely decent man. And yet I could not shake a rotten feeling that this was also the man who had pushed the number of troops in Afghanistan beyond 100,000. And though he had just announced his intention to bring that number back down, the violence would not really diminish, just be replaced by drones and special forces. The tableau was thick with irony: The politicians who sponsor pointless wars are the same ones who must be seen “power grieving” for fallen troops on days of remembrance."
 
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Trump brought a lot of troops home and would have brought more home.
But even just leaving and being in one less country and in one less active warzone is a victory.
 
U.S. Central Command reported Tuesday that close to 20 percent of the U.S. troops withdrawal from Afghanistan is complete. The Pentagon confirmed that the Taliban have yet to attack U.S. troops, as the terrorist group claimed they would.

President Joe Biden announced on April 14 that the U.S. intends to pull around 3,000 troops from the Middle East by Sept. 11. The Department of Defense has thus far turned over five buildings to the Afghan Ministry of Defense, as well as 5,000 equipment pieces. At the order of Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, the U.S. flew in six B-52 Bombers, 12 F-18 fighter jets, and 600 special forces troops to facilitate the withdrawal process. 115 loads of C-17 equipment have been turned over.

“The withdrawal continues at pace, with nothing more than some minor harassing attacks that have had no impact,” John Kirby, a spokesman for The Pentagon told reporters. “We certainly hope that that remains the case going forward. We’re not going to take anything just on hope and face value. We have to assume and we have to plan for the potential that it could be resisted, it could be opposed by the Taliban, so we’re continuing to take all the right precautions.”

More at: https://thefederalist.com/2021/05/18/u-s-withdraws-nearly-20-percent-of-troops-from-afghanistan/
 
Ready for the magic?

20% of troops that were in Afghanistan have left.

20% of 3000


How many special forces were added?

600.

If 20% have been removed then 1,200 ordinary troops were removed and 600 special forces were brought in to help cover the withdrawal.
 
According to a report from The New York Times, US troops are expected to be out of Afghanistan by early to mid-July, well before the September 11th deadline set by President Biden.

Unnamed US officials told the Times that Washington’s allies are also expected to be out by July, although Germany is apparently struggling to keep up the pace. US Central Command on Tuesday said the Afghanistan withdrawal process was about 16 to 25 percent complete.

The US recently handed over Kandahar Airfield to Afghan forces. The Times report said that US fighter jets and other military equipment will start leaving Bagram Air Base in the coming days. Last week, locals told Afghanistan’s Tolo News that the US has shipping truckloads of scrapped equipment out of the Bagram Air Base, which is the largest US military facility in Afghanistan.

Washington’s decision to pull out before September is likely an effort to avoid Taliban attacks on withdrawing troops. President Biden broke the US-Taliban peace deal by pushing back the original May 1st withdrawal deadline. Earlier this month, Tolo News reported that the US and the Taliban were in talks to get foreign troops out by sometime in July. In exchange, the Taliban would participate in a planned Afghan peace summit in Istanbul.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-troops-will-be-out-afghanistan-july-pentagon-officials
 
According to a report from The New York Times, US troops are expected to be out of Afghanistan by early to mid-July, well before the September 11th deadline set by President Biden.

Unnamed US officials told the Times that Washington’s allies are also expected to be out by July, although Germany is apparently struggling to keep up the pace. US Central Command on Tuesday said the Afghanistan withdrawal process was about 16 to 25 percent complete.

The US recently handed over Kandahar Airfield to Afghan forces. The Times report said that US fighter jets and other military equipment will start leaving Bagram Air Base in the coming days. Last week, locals told Afghanistan’s Tolo News that the US has shipping truckloads of scrapped equipment out of the Bagram Air Base, which is the largest US military facility in Afghanistan.

Washington’s decision to pull out before September is likely an effort to avoid Taliban attacks on withdrawing troops. President Biden broke the US-Taliban peace deal by pushing back the original May 1st withdrawal deadline. Earlier this month, Tolo News reported that the US and the Taliban were in talks to get foreign troops out by sometime in July. In exchange, the Taliban would participate in a planned Afghan peace summit in Istanbul.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-troops-will-be-out-afghanistan-july-pentagon-officials

Probably not all of the forces.
 
Not clear if this would acclerate or slowdown withdrawal of personnel:

US Afghan embassy in lockdown amid covid crisis. Call for mandatory Vax for US gov employees


AFSA which represents the US diplomatic corps has calld on Prez Biden to make vax mandatory for all US gov employees unless there is medical or religious exception. There is reported 2400% jump in covid infections in a month in Afghanistan housing tens of thousands of Americans currently in various military, contractor, diplomatic positions. UN Office suspects the Delta variant, first detected in India, could be responsible for the recent spike in Afghan cases.



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COVID-19 surge in Afghanistan hits US embassy, prompting lockdown, onsite wards

COVID infection rates have surged in Afghanistan by 2400% over the past month, according to the International Federation of Red Cross.
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WASHINGTON – A dangerous surge in COVID-19 cases in Afghanistan has gripped the U.S. embassy in Kabul, forcing an immediate lockdown and the creation of temporary, on-site COVID-19 wards to care for oxygen-dependent patients, according to an internal memo.

"COVID-19 is surging in the Mission. 114 of our colleagues now have COVID and are in isolation; one has died, and several have been medevaced," reads the notice from Shane Pierce, an employee in the embassy's health unit.

His memo says that intensive care units at a U.S. military hospital "are at full capacity," triggering the need to set up temporary on-site units for staff who need oxygen.

The outbreak has prompted the American Foreign Service Association, which represents the U.S. diplomatic corps, to call on President Joe Biden to require all U.S. government employees overseas to be vaccinated, unless they have medical or religious exceptions.

"This is the most serious outbreak (at a U.S. diplomatic facility), and I believe it’s the first time, at least recently, that we’ve had an entire embassy on lockdown," said Eric Rubin, a former ambassador to Bulgaria and head of the foreign service association.

"This is such a truly worrying and sad situation that we feel necessary to go public and just to say, 'Enough,'" he said. "It should be a condition of employment. People should not be allowed to endanger the lives of fellow citizens, their fellow employees."

The State Department press office did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the mandatory vaccine proposal.

Earlier on Thursday,Ned Price, the State Department's chief spokesman, noted the surge in cases at the embassy in Kabul coincides with "an intense third wave of COIVD-19 cases" across Afghanistan.

COVID infection rates have surged in Afghanistan by 2,400% over the past month, according to the International Federation of Red Cross

usatoday.com/story/news/world/2021/06/17/covid-afghanistan-us-embassy-kabul-hit-virus-third-wave/7729552002/



Coronavirus Breaks Out at US Embassy in Afghanistan

June 17, 2021

The International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC) warned in a statement that infection rates in Afghanistan have climbed by 2,400 percent in the past month. It noted 34 percent of tests returned positive results last week, pointing to many thousands of undiagnosed infections.

“Afghanistan is at a crisis point in the battle to contain COVID-19 as hospital beds are full to capacity in the capital Kabul and in many areas,” an IFRC statement quoted Nilab Mobarez, acting president of the Afghan Red Crescent Society, as saying.

“This surge is fast spiraling out of control adding huge pressures on our fragile health system and millions of people living in poverty,” said Mobarez. “We fear that we are just a heartbeat away from the kind of horror that we have already seen in countries like India and Nepal.”

FILE - An Afghan security officer stands guard at the Green Zone, which is home to a number of foreign embassies, in Kabul, Afghanistan, May 25, 2021.

India’s COVID-19 outbreak has broken records for cases and deaths, though daily case numbers have been declining there since mid-May. But the Indian variant has spread to neighboring Nepal, where it is causing massive infections and straining a less-resourced health system.

India recorded 29.7 million cases and 382,000 deaths while Nepal reported 614,000 and 8,558 as of Thursday.

The U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs suspected Thursday the Delta variant, first detected in India, could be responsible for the recent spike in Afghan cases.

“While Afghanistan lacks in-country facilities to test for the variant that originated in India, concern over the variant’s spread is high as many of the patients hospitalized over the last four weeks have a history of recently returning from India or having contact with people who have,” the agency said in a statement.
Meanwhile, hospitals around Afghanistan have refused to accept new coronavirus patients, citing a lack of beds and oxygen shortages.

The global agency was working with Afghan authorities to provide more resources and try and boost medical oxygen production, said Necephor Mghendi, the head of the Afghanistan country delegation for IFRC.

“More international support is needed to help win this race against this virus, so we can save thousands of lives,” he said.

Afghan officials and aid groups say Afghanistan is also dealing with a vaccine shortfall exacerbated by a high level of hesitancy.

“Less than half a percent” of the country’s estimated 35 million population has so far been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, according to IFCR.

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The U.S. military appears just days away from completing its withdrawal from Afghanistan, well ahead of the Sept. 11 deadline set by President Joe Biden to end America's longest war, U.S. officials told Reuters on Tuesday, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The withdrawal of troops and equipment from Afghanistan would not include forces that will remain to protect diplomats at the U.S. embassy and potentially assist securing Kabul airport.

U.S. officials have told Reuters that embassy presence could be around 650 troops.

The U.S. military stopped publicly detailing the pace of its withdrawal after it was more than 50 percent complete earlier in June.

More at: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-...pleting-afghan-withdrawal-sources-2021-06-29/
 
After nearly 20 years, the U.S. military left Bagram Airfield, the epicenter of its war to oust the Taliban and hunt down the al-Qaida perpetrators of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on America, two U.S. officials said Friday.

The airfield was handed over to the Afghan National Security and Defense Force in its entirety, they said on condition they not be identified because they were not authorized to release the information to the media.

One of the officials also said the U.S. top commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Austin S. Miller, “still retains all the capabilities and authorities to protect the forces.”

The withdrawal from Bagram Airfield is the clearest indication that the last of the 2,500-3,500 U.S. troops have left Afghanistan or are nearing a departure, months ahead of President Joe Biden's promise that they would be gone by Sept. 11.

It was clear soon after the mid-April announcement that the U.S. was ending its “forever war,” that the departure of U.S. soldiers and their estimated 7,000 NATO allies would be nearer to July 4, when America celebrates its Independence Day.

Most NATO soldiers have already quietly exited as of this week. Announcements from several countries analyzed by The Associated Press show that a majority of European troops has now left with little ceremony — a stark contrast to the dramatic and public show of force and unity when NATO allies lined up to back the U.S. invasion in 2001.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/us-hands-bagram-airfield-afghans-043528730.html
 
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