And so it begins, U.S. troops start to withdraw from Afghanistan

[Swordsmyth]

Said the lying pussy

Thanks for the correction, I will consider using your preferred description when referring to you in the future.

Sigh... I quoted your post that you copied and pasted. Own it copy and paste boy.

You deliberately ignored the relevant part about Afghanistan which is what we were talking about and tried to change the subject, you failed and everyone can see who is being dishonest here.

True. Except if Biden decides to stay.

Biden will not get to decide anything, he lost and that becomes clearer every day since the fraudulent election.

I don't have your confidence on this.

Just look at who he is putting in to replace Esper and the others who were fired or resigned.
They will be home by Christmas.

Disagree. Policy first.

Results first, policy is meaningless if it is never implemented.

lol I'm not trying to stop Trump. You're a medicated side show freak.

You protest too much, there was no reason to wear that shoe unless it fit.

Fair enough. It is trending that way. But like I said, he breaks his word too much.

At last you admit that I was right in the first place.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Here's a novel take on Afghan troop numbers: why should we care?

If the goal is to reduce the cost to the US taxpayer, then whether there are 10,000 or 5,000 or 500 makes virtually no difference, and whatever savings there may be are overshadowed by the hundreds of billions in increased military spending overall. If the goal is to prevent US casualties, same thing: the active phase of the war where there were significant casualties is long over.

The idea that this administration represents some watershed moment in US foreign policy because it slightly reduced the leftover police force in Afghanistan is ludicrous. All the big problems of recent decades remain or have gotten worse: vastly excessive military spending, risk of war with Iran, risk of war with China, risk of war with North Korea.

Wars and overseas deployments cost far more than keeping the troops at home and prevent any thought of reducing the number of troops.

But we know better than to expect honesty from our resident warmonger.

And the risk of war has provably gone down under Trump, there haven't been any new wars no matter how often the trolls said there would be and Trump has reduced our exposure to war risks and our enemies' ability to prosecute wars against us.

 

[tebowlives]

Thanks for the correction, I will consider using your preferred description when referring to you in the future.

The only correction would be if you stopped acting like a pussy.

You deliberately ignored the relevant part about Afghanistan which is what we were talking about and tried to change the subject, you failed and everyone can see who is being dishonest here.

I didn't ignore it and I specifically addressed it. That you have to lie like the little pussy you are isn't surprising.

YBiden will not get to decide anything, he lost and that becomes clearer every day since the fraudulent election.

Hopefully.

Just look at who he is putting in to replace Esper and the others who were fired or resigned.
They will be home by Christmas.

Yes I saw that and that does bring hope. But I'll believe it when it actually happens because Trump can't keep his word. And you're a little pussy who is too busy carrying Trumps water to admit that relevant point.

Results first, policy is meaningless if it is never implemented.

Of course not. If the policy is bring them home you do it and after it's done that's called the result. Make something else up.

You protest too much, there was no reason to wear that shoe unless it fit.

It's called waiting until it happens since Trump breaks his word too much. Lie to yourself all you want about that since you refuse to address the fact that Trump doesn't keep his word. Just another gutless move on your part as you carry Trumps water like the good little worm that you are.

At last you admit that I was right in the first place.

You're not right since it hasn't happened yet but you keep making things up if it helps you sleep at night.
Just keep copying and pasting since you can't add 1 and 1.

Your final sentence describes you perfectly. Trying so hard to be right instead of looking for the truth. It's a pussy move.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Wars and overseas deployments cost far more than keeping the troops at home and prevent any thought of reducing the number of troops.

How much of that $200 billion per year increase do you think we'll get back from removing a few thousand soldiers from Afghanistan?

And the risk of war has provably gone down under Trump, there haven't been any new wars no matter how often the trolls said there would be and Trump has reduced our exposure to war risks and our enemies' ability to prosecute wars against us.

Trump has made war with Iran more likely by virtue of reneging on the treaty, and war with China more likely by virtue of the trade war.

North Korea is unchanged.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

How much of that $200 billion per year increase do you think we'll get back from removing a few thousand soldiers from Afghanistan?

We can't put a price tag on freedom... period. DJTvsg understands value of Freedom, skeptics like you apparently don't.

This Photo of Afghan Women in Miniskirts Helped Convince Trump to Send More Troops

 

[r3volution 3.0]

We can't put a price tag on freedom... period. DJTvsg understands value of Freedom, skeptics like you apparently don't.

This Photo of Afghan Women in Miniskirts Helped Convince Trump to Send More Troops

No doubt Trump crafted his Afghan strategy with the care and conscientiousness with which he approaches all serious matters.

 

[Swordsmyth]

This week, the U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Austin S. Miller, traveled to Washington on a previously scheduled trip as officials in both countries braced for a possible announcement as early as next week to quickly reduce the 4,500 U.S. troops still left in Afghanistan. Trump has said previously that he wants to pull all troops from Afghanistan by Christmas.

With his recent flurry of firings and appointments, Trump has effectively pulled down a majority of the personnel guardrails against a fast withdrawal.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/trump-pentagon-purge-could-accelerate-162643478.html

 

[Swordsmyth]

Afghan government and Taliban representatives reached a preliminary deal on Wednesday to press on with peace talks, their first written agreement in 19 years of war and welcomed by the United States as a chance to halt the violence.

The agreement lays out the way forward for discussion but is considered a breakthrough because it will allow negotiators to move on to more substantive issues, including talks on a ceasefire, even as Taliban attacks on Afghan government forces have continued unabated.

"The procedure including its preamble of the negotiation has been finalised and from now on, the negotiation will begin on the agenda," Nader Nadery, a member of the Afghan government's negotiating team, told Reuters.

The Taliban spokesman confirmed the agreement on Twitter.

"A joint working committee was tasked to prepare the draft topics for the agenda (of peace talks)," a joint statement from both sides said.

The agreement comes after months of talks in Doha, the capital of Qatar, encouraged by the United States, despite the ongoing violence.

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo congratulated the two sides on "perseverance and willingness to find common ground", and added that the United States would "work hard with all sides in pursuit of a serious reduction of violence and ceasefire".

U.S. Special Representative for Afghan Reconciliation Zalmay Khalilzad said on Twitter that the two sides had agreed on a "three-page agreement codifing rules and procedures for their negotiations on a political roadmap and a comprehensive ceasefire".

"This agreement demonstrates that the negotiating parties can agree on tough issues," Khalilzad said.

Key players including Qatar, who is hosting the talks, and neighbouring Pakistan, whose government and military have helped put pressure on the Taliban to bring them to the negotiating table, also welcomed the agreement which Doha called a "milestone".

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/afghan-govt-taliban-announce-breakthrough-120936805.html

 

[tebowlives]

Afghan government and Taliban representatives reached a preliminary deal on Wednesday to press on with peace talks, their first written agreement in 19 years of war and welcomed by the United States as a chance to halt the violence.

The agreement lays out the way forward for discussion but is considered a breakthrough because it will allow negotiators to move on to more substantive issues, including talks on a ceasefire, even as Taliban attacks on Afghan government forces have continued unabated.

"The procedure including its preamble of the negotiation has been finalised and from now on, the negotiation will begin on the agenda," Nader Nadery, a member of the Afghan government's negotiating team, told Reuters.

The Taliban spokesman confirmed the agreement on Twitter.

"A joint working committee was tasked to prepare the draft topics for the agenda (of peace talks)," a joint statement from both sides said.

The agreement comes after months of talks in Doha, the capital of Qatar, encouraged by the United States, despite the ongoing violence.

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo congratulated the two sides on "perseverance and willingness to find common ground", and added that the United States would "work hard with all sides in pursuit of a serious reduction of violence and ceasefire".

U.S. Special Representative for Afghan Reconciliation Zalmay Khalilzad said on Twitter that the two sides had agreed on a "three-page agreement codifing rules and procedures for their negotiations on a political roadmap and a comprehensive ceasefire".

"This agreement demonstrates that the negotiating parties can agree on tough issues," Khalilzad said.

Key players including Qatar, who is hosting the talks, and neighbouring Pakistan, whose government and military have helped put pressure on the Taliban to bring them to the negotiating table, also welcomed the agreement which Doha called a "milestone".

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/afghan-govt-taliban-announce-breakthrough-120936805.html

How's that withdrawal working out? I haven't heard of anything.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

How's that withdrawal working out? I haven't heard of anything.

It's MSM reporting, pending confirmation from reliable fringe sources:


Trump directed Pentagon to reverse decision and keep aircraft carrier in Middle East amid Iran tensions

By Jim Sciutto, Barbara Starr and Nicole Gaouette, CNN
Updated 10:40 AM ET, Mon January 4, 2021
How the US and Iran became enemies 03:39

(CNN)President Donald Trump directed acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller to reverse course and order a US aircraft carrier to return to the Middle East following a White House meeting Sunday, according to a senior defense official.

cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/uss-nimitz-aircraft-carrier-middle-east-iran/index.html

 

[wizardwatson]

How's that withdrawal working out? I haven't heard of anything.

Well, it's very important that we restore democracy and fight terrorists and stuff. Clearly, we can't withdrawal.

If we withdraw, then there will be all sorts of withdrawal symptoms.

 

[Swordsmyth]

How's that withdrawal working out? I haven't heard of anything.

It's in progress.

 

[PAF]

It's in progress.

When? After the 10th?

 

[tebowlives]

It's in progress.

So when is that troop withdrawal going to happen you lying sack of mule dung?

How about this, try not to write checks with your stupid mouth? Can you do that? Can you quit throwing Liberty candidates under the bus and stop supporting those that grow government?

Just copy and paste articles. that's all your good for. When we want garbage commentary, lies, and deceit, then we'll give you a call.

 

[ClaytonB]

So when is that troop withdrawal going to happen you lying sack of mule dung?

How about this, try not to write checks with your stupid mouth? Can you do that? Can you quit throwing Liberty candidates under the bus and stop supporting those that grow government?

Just copy and paste articles. that's all your good for. When we want garbage commentary, lies, and deceit, then we'll give you a call.

You have no business calling names. As a point of fact, no one on this forum has any real knowledge of where US troops are deployed or not. "But I read an (MSMBS) article!" We're supposed to believe that the very same people that have deployed textbook Marxist propaganda tactics on a global scale in order to stage a soft-coup to take over the US government and install a Chicom puppet in the Oval Office (apparently) are reliable sources of information about anything? Have you not read The Boy Who Cried Wolf? The first or second or even third time you lie, people might believe you-- because of their own honesty and goodness, they tend to assume that others are also honest and good. But when you build a mountain of lies so enormous that the stench rises up to heaven itself, no one should believe a single word you utter. Your time is better spent solving cryptograms than staring at the gibberish that comes up on your screen when you click on an MSMBS article link.

You have no idea where the US troops are and you cannot cite any reliable sources in that regard because there are no longer any reliable sources.

 

[acptulsa]

You have no business calling names.

Swordshyll has less business calling people names, but that never stopped him. We are talking about the king of negative reputation, here.

Those who live by the sword shall also perish by the sword.

 

[TheCount]

You have no idea where the US troops are and you cannot cite any reliable sources in that regard because there are no longer any reliable sources.

Because Trump made the numbers secret


Now let's think about this for a second: Why would he do that if his actual goal was to end wars and withdraw troops?

 

[tebowlives]

You have no business calling names.

I was responding to a pos who started the ball rolling on it. Treat the cause, don't react to a symptom

As a point of fact, no one on this forum has any real knowledge of where US troops are deployed or not. "But I read an (MSMBS) article!" We're supposed to believe that the very same people that have deployed textbook Marxist propaganda tactics on a global scale in order to stage a soft-coup to take over the US government and install a Chicom puppet in the Oval Office (apparently) are reliable sources of information about anything? Have you not read The Boy Who Cried Wolf? The first or second or even third time you lie, people might believe you-- because of their own honesty and goodness, they tend to assume that others are also honest and good. But when you build a mountain of lies so enormous that the stench rises up to heaven itself, no one should believe a single word you utter. Your time is better spent solving cryptograms than staring at the gibberish that comes up on your screen when you click on an MSMBS article link.

You have no idea where the US troops are and you cannot cite any reliable sources in that regard because there are no longer any reliable sources.

The Trump administration has refused to disclose the numbers.
Our troops are not out. We know that. That has been my point.

 

[Swordsmyth]

So when is that troop withdrawal going to happen you lying sack of mule dung?

How about this, try not to write checks with your stupid mouth? Can you do that? Can you quit throwing Liberty candidates under the bus and stop supporting those that grow government?

Just copy and paste articles. that's all your good for. When we want garbage commentary, lies, and deceit, then we'll give you a call.

It was in progress when I wrote that, your precious Biden is reported to have stopped it.
Maybe you should have done more to keep Trump from being robbed of the election.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I was responding to a pos who started the ball rolling on it. Treat the cause, don't react to a symptom

The Trump administration has refused to disclose the numbers.
Our troops are not out. We know that. That has been my point.

We know the numbers Trump had them down to and we know the rest were going to leave.