An Epic Walk

[Meiun]

Hey guys. I've been coming to these forums for a long time but post very seldom I'm in physical therapy as a profession and have been slowly watching the walls crumble from the inside. Afraid that the system will collapse and we'll face massive lay offs and all that goes with it, my family and I have decided to flip the scales on the system.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/walktheusa-org/x/3686082

This project treats the healthcare system like a red-headed step child and sends it to the other room. The walk merely sets the stage for the conversation we want to have with Americans every night in their home towns. This is a message of prevention, and intervention. Challenging everyone to be more proactive with their health, improving their diets and, in general, just improving the type, length and quality of motion of every American.

What's really fun about this project is the integration of the technology. We'll be live streaming the walk as much as we can and take calls and have guests on as we hit certain points of interest to local (and national) citizens. If we can get this pushed a bit I would be forever grateful.

Thank you for your time and consideration. Now, GO BE EPIC!

 

[dannno]

Are you paleo bro?

 

[Meiun]

LOL, no. I kinda like my carbs

 

[torchbearer]

LOL, no. I kinda like my carbs

i'm from south louisiana, i'm fond of rice.

 

[mad cow]

Bookmarked yer site.

 

[I<3Liberty]

This is awesome! I'm really interested in preventative medicine and rearranging the system to better accommodate both preventative measures, as well as early intervention. I'm really glad you're taking the initiative to put this together. I subscribed and will definitely be looking forward to updates.

Best of luck with this project!

 

[Meiun]

Thank you so much. We definitely will keep ronpaulforums in the conversation.

 

[dannno]

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/diabetes/#axzz2YfqiH1Hf

I don't want to rain on your parade by any means, just providing info to the educators out there. You can digest this when you have time and incorporate as desired.

 

[Meiun]

Yep, yep... familiar with all that, and I understand why the paleo sensation (fad) is so prevalent right now. I agree with all that was written in the article you presented, and given the level of my activity am happy to report that I do watch my carb intake (in fact, I count all of my calories) not to decrease my weight but to maintain appropriate weight. I burn up to 6000 calories a day on long walks, long bike rides, or even swimming. The key is balance. If you exercise you need the carbs as a quick energy replacement, allowing you to sustain activity far longer than without.

I think the fad of paleo, like every other diet plan, will go away in due time. I support it for those who are less than fit, but for those who pursue fitness it just doesn't balance out.

 

[Acala]

for those who pursue fitness it just doesn't balance out.

Poor Mark, his pursuit of fitness just isn't working out:

 

[dannno]

Yep, yep... familiar with all that, and I understand why the paleo sensation (fad) is so prevalent right now. I agree with all that was written in the article you presented, and given the level of my activity am happy to report that I do watch my carb intake (in fact, I count all of my calories) not to decrease my weight but to maintain appropriate weight. I burn up to 6000 calories a day on long walks, long bike rides, or even swimming. The key is balance. If you exercise you need the carbs as a quick energy replacement, allowing you to sustain activity far longer than without.

I think the fad of paleo, like every other diet plan, will go away in due time. I support it for those who are less than fit, but for those who pursue fitness it just doesn't balance out.

Let's just say I'd peruse that article more slowly when you have some time, I don't think you read it all if you say you agree with it but you still say you "need" carbs.. the article just said that carbs in excess of 100g or so each day is essentially poison. You can get all of the energy you need from good fats, and that energy is instant once you train your body to be in fat burning mode 100% of the time.

I would highly recommend ACTUALLY TRYING IT for a few weeks before trash talking it so much so you can train your body to go into fat burning mode 100% of the time. You have no idea how fantastic it is to get off of the carb roller coaster.

The truth is most people probably don't burn 5% of the calories you burn in a day so what might be relatively healthy for you (a relatively low carb diet / calories burned per day) might not be best for people who are more sedentary or only moderately active. In other words, you make up for what would normally be an unhealthy diet by exercising way more than is necessary. NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT. If you enjoy it or it earns your livelyhood or you are using it to educate people then there is not necessarily such thing as being 'too active'.

You also don't have to be strict with paleo - for me it's a philosophy. The idea is to keep your carb intake low and keep your intake of good fats high (grass fed meats, pastured meats, wild game, wild seafood, coconut oil). If you can do this relatively consistently for some time your body changes how it uses energy, no more afternoon fatigue, you keep your energy all day long. If you break the rules once in a while you can still stay on track. I break the rules because sometimes it is inconvenient and it is also very expensive to be 100% paleo/primal. I've just found that the more strict I adhere, I instantly become more lean and have more energy.

 

[Eagles' Wings]

All my sibs and even next generation are doing the Paleo. Third day with no sweets, just carbs from veggies. I already feel better. Carbs have always been hard on my body. Breaking the addiction to sugar is hard, lots of emotions. Went to bed way early because there was no after dinner snacking.

Went to fitday.com to enter in daily food intake and it shows how much of each category you've eaten. It's quite helpful and no cost for basic program.


Otherwise, plus rep to the op for bringing up an important subject.

 

[Meiun]

Fitness! FITNESS!! lol... not low body fat greek godliness physiques

Okay, so here's a very condensed version of how to define fitness: having full range of motion in all joints and strength through that entire range so that you are ready to perform the tasks presented without injury.

 

[dannno]

Poor Mark, his pursuit of fitness just isn't working out:
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I think what happened was a lot of fitness types tried the atkins diet and it didn't pan out because they were just eating grain-fed animals all day long. Now they hear of this 'paleo' diet and assume they've already tried it. It's amazing how much better one feels after a meal of wild game or pastured/grass fed compared to grain fed.

 

[dannno]

Fitness! FITNESS!! lol... not low body fat greek godliness physiques

Okay, so here's a very condensed version of how to define fitness: having full range of motion in all joints and strength through that entire range so that you are ready to perform the tasks presented without injury.

That would be difficult if you had a leg amputated from having diabetes.

Read Mark Scisson, the guy in that picture, he talks about exercise and fitness almost as much as diet.

 

[Meiun]

No, seriously danno, I agree with everything in the article you posted. And, I agree with your intent. Carbs above a certain threshold, especially for the sedentary, are unneccessary. I don't agree that naturally formed sugar in the body (glucose) is poison. I have tried the paleo diet, in fact I still hold to some of the subjective ideals in my meal choice... basically I stay away from anything white. There are certain meals though, that just require a dinner roll, ya know? I love my Texas barbeque

 

[Acala]

Fitness! FITNESS!! lol... not low body fat greek godliness physiques

Okay, so here's a very condensed version of how to define fitness: having full range of motion in all joints and strength through that entire range so that you are ready to perform the tasks presented without injury.

And you are of the opinion that Mr. Sisson is not fit by this definition? Hell, I know obese people who are fit by your definition.

 

[Meiun]

And you are of the opinion that Mr. Sisson is not fit by this definition? Hell, I know obese people who are fit by your definition.

No, I'm not saying that he is not fit, but by that definition I would say that there is a possibility (and he would agree) that there are some joints in his body that lack range of motion, some aches and pains that he wished he didn't have. Fitness is a daily pursuit, not a physique. And, you are correct. Some people who would be otherwise deemed obese could be fit.
I am a physical therapist, and it is from that perspective that you will hear my points. http://www.mobilitywod.com/ is Kelly Starrett, DPT. I would say that he has done to a degree what I am trying to do with this walk. We can inspire people to get back to moving, to remove pain by becoming mobile. Movement is the Key to Life; the more we move, the more alive we are. Stagnation leads to pain, leads to dysfunction. When we restore normal motion, pain goes away. That's all I'm saying, and that's all I'm trying to promote with this endeavor.

 

[jllundqu]

That would be difficult if you had a leg amputated from having diabetes.

Read Mark Scisson, the guy in that picture, he talks about exercise and fitness almost as much as diet.

I do Paleo blueprint fitness 5 days a week and hike/swim/walk/play with my son on weekends.

I agree that staying paleo long-term is difficult. I did it for about 7 months and lost 20 lbs and became very lean and VERY strong. But my wife is hispanic and refuses to give up her rice, beans, tortillas, etc. I am a fan of the Perfect Health Diet, which is more balanced and still adherent, in my view, to the paleo philosophy.

Bottom line - eat well for life (real foods), exercise to be functionally fit (do what out ancestors did... run, jump, lift, climb, hunt, gather), and enjoy life. If you are dieting and exercising and find it hard and mentally draining, you are doing it wrong. It should be fun and effortless.

 

[dannno]

No, seriously danno, I agree with everything in the article you posted. And, I agree with your intent. Carbs above a certain threshold, especially for the sedentary, are unneccessary. I don't agree that naturally formed sugar in the body (glucose) is poison. I have tried the paleo diet, in fact I still hold to some of the subjective ideals in my meal choice... basically I stay away from anything white. There are certain meals though, that just require a dinner roll, ya know? I love my Texas barbeque

I must have been confused by you saying that it was a fad that some how the principles were faulty. I have a friend who is strict paleo, he does it because he wants to eat an optimal diet and have optimal health and already enjoys paleo fair enough not to crave anything else. I have a similar attitude except I do enjoy carbs more than he does and I have a more macro perspective so I don't tend to take the little things so seriously. Plus I have a tight budget and my gf still prefers carbs.

So what I might do is take a recipe that is not paleo that my gf likes and make some but not all of the elements paleo and most of the time she can't even tell. For example, she likes quiche and pies but it has to have wheat crust so I make the filling of the quiche primal (easy) or a berry pie with honey instead of sugar and lots of grass fed butter in both. I could probably about match your texas bbq with some paleo bbq sauce (or rub), if you gotta have the roll, have the roll... or baked beans or what-have-you.. just don't do the roll AND the a big portion of baked beans AND the sugar (or worse hfcs) laden overly sweet bbq sauce.. If it was a special occasion and I were at this bbq I'd probably cop a half a roll off someone to sop up my juices and throw like 5 baked beans on the plate just to get a taste and stick mostly to the brisket, veggies and fruit. Is Texas bbq more of a dry rub brisket anyway? But anyways, when I cook for myself I do tend to be pretty strict paleo/primal, but if I'm eating out or with other people or making food for my gf I try and paleotize my food as much as I feel comfortable at least.

So here's one issue I have with the paleo diet..

If you have a big juicy piece of grass fed meat, those juices are very healthy.. Unless you're eating soup, what are you supposed to use to sop up all those good juices?? Bread and rice happen to work perfectly for that. Unfortunately wheat these days is not the same wheat humans ate 50 or 60 years ago and it has a horrible amount of gliadin that rips up our digestive tract..... however, I have heard that if you eat bread that comes from a 'starter' as opposed to packaged yeast, a starter has thousands of different kinds of yeast and bacteria and it is better able to pre-digest a lot of the proteins so it doesn't mess you up as much. Whole Foods bakery apparently uses a starter in some of their french breads, and you can too. Learn how to make a good roll or find one and go to a texas bbq and you are set to go, you can occasionally have a roll with your meal and not worry too much about tearing up your intestines. I had a friend become gluten intolerant less than a year ago, I used to eat pizza with the guy and it was usually his idea. He became gluten intolerant because he ate too much gluten and it started giving him some major problems one day after years and years of no symptoms except being a bit overweight.