An atheist's call to arms

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

Anyway like I said before I believe your a hybrid of different primate species and maybe something else. You really didn't evolve your crazy characteristics they come from some fairly unique elements in human body and this mixed lineage. Basically got some primate genes a unique reproductive cycle, plus some unique physiology, and the body takes care of the rest. Sounds crazy but that's what I believe. I don't believe you waited for such strange stuff to develop randomly.

again, you believe this based on what body of research?

 

[Freedom 4 all]

If I remember correctly, he read enough Mendel to have SOME clue about what he was doing. :o (haven't read his stuff in years, though)

In one of the ultimate ironies of our time, Mendel was an extremely devout Roman Catholic monk. Now his research is atheist exhibit #1.

 

[Uriel999]

We should totally put a teapot in orbit around Mars.

 

[M House]

again, you believe this based on what body of research?

It's a hypothetical guestimation looking at bunch of gene studies and alot studies on human mechanoreceptors and endocrinology.

 

[M House]

In one of the ultimate ironies of our time, Mendel was an extremely devout Roman Catholic monk. Now his research is atheist exhibit #1.

It should be, but this survival of the fittest crap won't go away.

 

[Mitt Romneys sideburns]

It's a hypothetical guestimation looking at bunch of gene studies and alot studies on human mechanoreceptors and endocrinology.

so. . . you pulled it out of your ass?

 

[TER]

Yep, sorry it's tough argue with people who think you need the fear of God to make good decisions. If you look at it scientifically tough fear actually makes people make stupid choices.

Fear also keep you from getting killed crossing the street.

 

[M House]

so. . . you pulled it out of your ass?

It's better than some things I've seen.

 

[dr. hfn]

I don't really believe in the majority of evolutionary theory. It just sex and genes to me.

evolution as we understand it so far happens from 4 things: natural selection, gene flow, gene drift, and mutation. i'm an anthropologist undergrad and have been studying it for two years now and i can tell u that it is very complex!

 

[TER]

evolution as we understand it so far happens from 4 things: natural selection, gene flow, gene drift, and mutation. i'm an anthropologist undergrad and have been studying it for two years now and i can tell u that it is very complex!

It's like finding a watch in the woods.

 

[dr. hfn]

Anyway like I said before I believe your a hybrid of different primate species and maybe something else. You really didn't evolve your crazy characteristics they come from some fairly unique elements in human body and this mixed lineage. Basically got some primate genes a unique reproductive cycle, plus some unique physiology, and the body takes care of the rest. Sounds crazy but that's what I believe. I don't believe you waited for such strange stuff to develop randomly.

modern humans, AMHs', anatomically modern humans can't mate and produce fertile/viable offspring with apes or monkeys.

we are not the same species, thats how species are determined. if they can produce viable offspring or not.

evolution doesn't have a goal or plan or intention. it's natural and all about survival and passing genes on to a new generation and creating a new generation

 

[dr. hfn]

It's like finding a watch in the woods.

what?

 

[M House]

modern humans, AMHs', anatomically modern humans can't mate and produce fertile/viable offspring with apes or monkeys.

we are not the same species, thats how species are determined. if they can produce viable offspring or not.

evolution doesn't have a goal or plan or intention. it's natural and all about survival and passing genes on to a new generation and creating a new generation

Yep that's what they told you in school. Recent studies show we bred back twice on chimps I believe. There's no way you operate reproductively like a primate either.

 

[M House]

Hybrids do actually produce fertile offspring you'll just have to look at the right species. Mules actually slightly fertile there have been cases of successful offspring. Sirenians goddamn take any of the species they vary 48-56 chromosomes and they can produce a fertile hybrid. It's actually a danger to their breeding populations cuz it tends to sterilize the offspring later down the line. However, it seems a good majority of some them are already hybridized so maybe this is not the case.

 

[M House]

I wouldn't make a bet on that we can't produce a hybrid with a currently existing primate. To get a compatible offspring with humans you just need the right combo of X chromosomes. Y gets switched on late so either do or die if you got a male over more than one X it'll be weird. Also one parents X can actually negate the others depending on certain elements it's not always a 50/50 barr body gene expression. It can be ridiculously skewwed one way or another.

 

[Bman]

I wouldn't make a bet on that we can't produce a hybrid with a currently existing primate. To get a compatible offspring with humans you just need the right combo of X chromosomes. Y gets switched on late so either do or die if you got a male over more than one X it'll be weird. Also one parents X can actually negate the others depending on certain elements it's not always a 50/50 barr body gene expression. It can be ridiculously skewwed one way or another.

Could you show or properly explain a theoretical example in which a monkey and human DNA would actually pair up?

 

[M House]

Really your interested?

 

[Athan]

I don't really believe in the majority of evolutionary theory. It just sex and genes to me.

It would be easier to have sex with the genes off. :o

*crowd boos and hisses*

 

[M House]

It'll take some time to get the research together again but I can do it.

 

[Bman]

Really your interested?

Well don't go to too much trouble. I just can't wrap my mind around unequal sets of chromosomes pairing up. I'd imagine they could try. I just can't see it happening successfully, since you would have excess on one or another side.