An assessment of the LA caucuses

[hueylong]

Carole, I wasn't referring to your post, but rather the "next to last" post.

 

[mosquitobite]

Carole it might be best to hit the quote button to show which poster you're talking to. Right now it's confusing and looks a bit like you're talking to yourself.

 

[MsDoodahs]

This (next to) last post is still all crack. The delegates who were elected were almost ALL long time elected officials and party activists. They were trying to get THEMSELVES elected to the state convention. It's what they do. It's what they've done for years.

It had NOTHING to do with hating Dr. Paul, or any kind of neoconservative conspiracy.

Jeez.

I was told that such is tradition here in my part of Texas as well. Getting to go to the state convention is some kind of big deal to the GOP officials, and they are the ones who get elected to go from this area.

 

[Thomas Paine]

I was told that such is tradition here in my part of Texas as well. Getting to go to the state convention is some kind of big deal to the GOP officials, and they are the ones who get elected to go from this area.

That's because at the state convention, somewhere there is going to be free food and liquor provided. State conventions can be a lot of fun and you meet a lot of party insiders.

 

[hueylong]

True Ms. Doodahs. What we need to be more sensitive to, is that we are crashing THEIR party. They've been doing this for decades -- and suddenly WE show up and upset the apple cart.

We'd get a better reception if we were a little nicer about it, and not so darn strident.

 

[MsDoodahs]

So .... free food and liquor appeals to the GOP faithful, eh?

So ... if we have a nice "free food and booze" party and they have to prove they voted for Ron...we could win every state from here on out...

Hmmm...






I AM KIDDING, Y'ALL!

 

[Thomas Paine]

True Ms. Doodahs. What we need to be more sensitive to, is that we are crashing THEIR party. They've been doing this for decades -- and suddenly WE show up and upset the apple cart.

We'd get a better reception if we were a little nicer about it, and not so darn strident.

If the Ron Paul grassroots really wants to earn some goodwill at the state convention, think about hosting a social where free beer/liquor is provided for a couple of hours or ice cream (not sure how warm it gets in LA at the time of the state convention) or whatever. Have Ron Paul signs all around the table(s) and have servers wearing Ron Paul shirts. Not sure of the cost. This will depend on how many typically attend a state convention.

 

[MsDoodahs]

True Ms. Doodahs. What we need to be more sensitive to, is that we are crashing THEIR party. They've been doing this for decades -- and suddenly WE show up and upset the apple cart.

We'd get a better reception if we were a little nicer about it, and not so darn strident.

I realize that. I did not wear my RP stuff when I attended my first (and so far only) GOP gathering. I was nice and volunteered to help on a project for a few hours, which I did.

It was very difficult for me.

I have not been able to make another gathering.

I plan to offer to answer phones at their County office some next month...

 

[hueylong]

A hospitality suite is a very good idea.

 

[Thomas Paine]

So .... free food and liquor appeals to the GOP faithful, eh?

So ... if we have a nice "free food and booze" party and they have to prove they voted for Ron...we could win every state from here on out...

Hmmm...






I AM KIDDING, Y'ALL!

No. However, it may earn some goodwill. Incidentally, George Washington and the other Founding Fathers used to provide hard cider and liquor at the polls where all the eligible voters would get drunk before going inside to cast their vote.

 

[Thomas Paine]

A hospitality suite is a very good idea.

A hospitality suite would also be a very good way to further introduce Ron Paul Republican candidates to the conventioneers. Such candidates could work the suite and have their supporters standing by to hand out any brochures.

 

[hueylong]

Yes TP -- it would be good for the congressional candidates, etc...

 

[Thomas Paine]

Yes TP -- it would be good for the congressional candidates, etc...

Serve Samuel Adams beers at the hospitality suite. For non-drinkers, provide tea with Ron Paul teabags.

 

[MsDoodahs]

Do one of you know where the convention will be held off hand? I think I saw the info at the LAGOP site....

We NEED to make the "hospitality suite" idea happen...don't we?

 

[Thomas Paine]

Best info I can find is that it will be on February 16 at the Old State Capitol in Baton Rouge. However, I am not sure if the "Old State Capitol" is an actual building or what.

For a hospitality suite to be effective, it will have to be held at the primary hotel where the conventioneers will be staying the night before the state convention. However, I am not familiar with Louisiana state conventions so I defer to anyone else who has better information. Maybe LA state conventions are not conducive to hospitality suites although I would find that hard to believe.

In any rate, word about the hospitality suite would have to be communicated to the conventioneers before the state convention or perhaps when they check into their hotel(s). Sometimes there is a welcome packet provided to conventioneers that will have all sorts of flyers about various hospitality suites or socials. I am not sure about the cost of a hospitality suite, or open bar, or whatever social so someone on the ground in LA will have to do some investigating to see if this is a viable idea. I do think it would be a great way to generate some goodwill with the LA GOP insiders although it is no guarantee that they will start joining hands with Ron Paul supporters and begin singing kumbayah at the state convention.

 

[hueylong]

The Old State Capitol is an actual building. It is -- the "old" State Capitol.

There are multiple rooms, and a hospitality suite could probably be rented.

 

[stevedasbach]

They weren't tricks. As long as we keep thinking somebody cheated, we're not going to learn the lesson of this caucus.

+1776

 

[louisiana4liberty]

Our grip is slipping Huey P. They have had all day long to determine whether 650 provisional votes were valid under their rules. I personally could have verified each one of those records in one day.

It appears the unofficial results will make the headlines tomorrow to your satisfaction.

 

[VoluntaryMan]

Here's the campaign's official position on the LA caucuses:

January 24, 2008


Thursday was both a good day and a bad day for Ron Paul.

First, the good news: Ron Paul has unveiled his Comprehensive Economic Revitalization Plan. Other candidates may peddle so-called "stimulus" packages, but only the bold economic vision laid out by Dr. Paul provides a real plan for reforming our economic system.

And Friday, newly appointed economic advisor Donald Luskin will discuss Ron Paul's economic plan on Mancow at 9:30 AM ET and on Ed Schultz at 1:30 PM ET. Listen in and enjoy!

Today we also unveiled a new graphic on our front page which we call "There were 11, now there are 5", which highlights the fact that over half of the original contenders for the GOP presidential nomination have now dropped out of the race. Who will be next? Can Rudy Giuliani survive more primary losses to Dr. Paul than the five he's already sustained?

But now the bad news: Not surprisingly, the political and media establishment are trying to stop Ron Paul's message from getting out. Just look at what's happening in Louisiana. The Louisiana Republican Party has only posted "unofficial" results from the state's Jan. 22 caucuses on their website. And they are claiming that John McCain won with Ron Paul in second.

But we suspect that when all of the provisional ballots are counted, Ron Paul's showing will be even better. For more information on the "boondoggle in the bayou", read ABC News' coverage here.

There's a ton going on, and as always, more news will be coming. But as you know, we are competing against an entrenched media and political elite. For that reason, it is even more important that we have the war chest necessary to get Dr. Paul's message - our message - out to the rest of our country. Donate as generously as you can now: https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate.

The fight has just begun.

Jonathan Bydlak
Fundraising Director
Ron Paul 2008

 

[billyjoeallen]

Here's the campaign's official position on the LA caucuses:

Not surprisingly, the political and media establishment are trying to stop Ron Paul's message from getting out. Just look at what's happening in Louisiana. The Louisiana Republican Party has only posted "unofficial" results from the state's Jan. 22 caucuses on their website. And they are claiming that John McCain won with Ron Paul in second.

But we suspect that when all of the provisional ballots are counted, Ron Paul's showing will be even better. For more information on the "boondoggle in the bayou", read ABC News' coverage here.

There's a ton going on, and as always, more news will be coming. But as you know, we are competing against an entrenched media and political elite.[/B] For that reason, it is even more important that we have the war chest necessary to get Dr. Paul's message - our message - out to the rest of our country. Donate as generously as you can now: https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate.

The fight has just begun.

Jonathan Bydlak
Fundraising Director
Ron Paul 2008

We weren't out foxed. We were disenfranchised. They didn'y have their act together, so they got two extra days to come up with a way to screw us. Delagates on multiple slates???? That's a way to prevent people from communicationing their true wishes.

You want to vote pro-life, but have to vote for a guy whos also a McCain delegate? because he's on both slates?
What a pile of crap.

We were the only team with a full slate of delegates by the original deadline. The rules that help us are flexible, but the rules that help them are set in stone.

Don't tell me to calm down. Don't tell me we were out-foxed. We were robbed.