An anti-Paul person is saying...

[Jeremy]

edit: stop posting here. i dont want people bumping this thread because i dealt with it











On "RP gets most military donations"

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134410p.pdf

4.1.2.4. Make campaign contributions to another member of the Armed
Forces or an employee of the Federal Government.

Ron Paul is a employee of the federal government. So if he is getting these donations, hes getting them from people breaking the rules.

He also said I have no proof that its an inaccuracy and that he's "banned on Ron Paul forums when he shows them the link"

 

[dealerjim]

Tell him/her that they are a liar.

 

[KewlRonduderules]

uh, no.

 

[Jeremy]

Tell him/her that they are a liar.

I did and they want proof...............

 

[constitutional]

what are you talking about? Either make sense or don't post threads like these. Details please.

 

[phill4paul]

I would say that Paul is not an employee. He is an elected representative.

 

[JustBcuz]

Find out who that guy supports, then show him the (much smaller) amounts of military donations to his candidate.

If he won't fess up to being a McCain guy, just list all the remaining candidate's military donation totals, including Billary & Obama.

 

[Jeremy]

what are you talking about? Either make sense or don't post threads like these. Details please.

Did you even click the link?

Wow....

 

[Chester Copperpot]

This would explain why Ive heard Judge Andrew Napolitano say RP gets 50% of all the ex-military donations.. He said they cant donate while on active duty.. This must be what he was talking about.

 

[Danny Molina]

odd...

 

[RobHino]

It says the CAN do the following...

4.1.1. A member on active duty may:
4.1.1.1. Register, vote, and express his or her personal opinion on political
candidates and issues, but not as a representative of the Armed Forces.
4.1.1.2. Make monetary contributions to a political organization.
4.1.1.3. Attend partisan and nonpartisan political meetings, rallies, or
conventions as a spectator when not in uniform.
4.1.2. A member on active duty shall not:
4.1.2.1. Use his or her official authority or influence for interfering with
an election; affecting the course or outcome of an election; soliciting votes for a
particular candidate or issue; or requiring or soliciting political contributions from others.
4.1.2.2. Be a candidate for, hold, or exercise the functions of civil office
except as authorized in paragraphs 4.2. and 4.3., below.
4.1.2.3. Participate in partisan political management, campaigns, or
conventions (unless attending a convention as a spectator when not in uniform).
4.1.2.4. Make campaign contributions to another member of the Armed
Forces or an employee of the Federal Government.

Did I mis-understand your point?

 

[ValidusCustodiae]

Did you even click the link?

Wow....

Yeah, you guys didn't know you sign away all your rights when you join the military?

Go defend the Constitution, but don't expect it to apply to you, you're a soldier!

B.S.

 

[virginiakid]

That is if he were employed by the Fed government like being in the armed forces. Paul is not an employee, He is an elected official. Not only that, if that person you are talking to is correct then every presidential candidate is committing a crime and not knowing it. So this is pure garbage.

 

[Goldwater Conservative]

Even if this guy is right, then Paul gets the most donations from veterans. What's his point?

 

[Eponym_mi]

4.1.2.4. Make campaign contributions to another member of the Armed Forces or an employee of the Federal Government.

This does not apply. Ron Paul is not an employee. He is an elected official.

 

[Jeremy]

OK, I dealt with this unless he posts another dumb thing

Don't post in this thread anymore.

 

[Ogren]

These laws are hardly enforced. there quite irrelevant as most candidates running are employees of the federal government.

 

[angelatc]

4.1.1. A member on active duty may:
4.1.1.1. Register, vote, and express his or her personal opinion on political
candidates and issues, but not as a representative of the Armed Forces.
4.1.1.2. Make monetary contributions to a political organization.
4.1.1.3. Attend partisan and nonpartisan political meetings, rallies, or
conventions as a spectator when not in uniform.


4.1.2. A member on active duty shall not:
4.1.2.1. Use his or her official authority or influence for interfering with
an election; affecting the course or outcome of an election; soliciting votes for a
particular candidate or issue; or requiring or soliciting political contributions from others.
4.1.2.2. Be a candidate for, hold, or exercise the functions of civil office
except as authorized in paragraphs 4.2. and 4.3., below.
4.1.2.3. Participate in partisan political management, campaigns, or
conventions (unless attending a convention as a spectator when not in uniform).
4.1.2.4. Make campaign contributions to another member of the Armed
Forces or an employee of the Federal Government.

Did I mis-understand your point?

Me too.

 

[NoMoreApathy]

Tell this person they are an idiot, and didn't even read the friggin source they gave you.

It says at the beginning of section 4.1:

A member on active duty MAY:

4.1.1.2. Make monetary contributions to a political organization


This, and elected officials are not employees of the government. You need to be resigned from a position as a government employee before you are allowed to run for election, meaning that an elected official is not an employee.

I'd say both of those points pretty much shoots your "friend" down.

 

[Mark37snj]

Ron Paul is not an employee of the Federal Goverment, his is an employee of the State of Texas. And being an elected official is different than an employee. Im not sure how voting for of AGAINST pay raises works.