Amish Men Jailed After Refusing To Pay Fines For Not Installing Safety Signs On Buggies

[A Son of Liberty]

Assuming I didn't miss it being said, why hasn't anyone brought up the most brightly glaring

Did you do this on purpose? Because I lol'd.

problem with legislating against the Amish? They don't care about your laws. They won't abide by your laws. They'll resist penalization. They won't pay fees. They'll need to be dragged to jail, just like those in the OP.

Yet another thing I respect and admire about many Amish.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I'm ok with them being fined. I don't think it's ok to create a dangerous situation just because your crazy religion does not like bright colors.

We have freedom of religion in this country and bright colors run contrary to their religion.

It doesn't matter that you don't like the Amish or God. If you don't stand up for their rights, and everyone else's for that matter, there will be no one around to stand up for yours.

 

[oyarde]

Only in America can you have several hundred dollar traffic fines for people who do not drive autos . Free the Amish , thieving tyrants !!

 

[XNavyNuke]

These folks are members of the Swartzentruber sect of Amish. They have offered an alternative to the judge; to use silver reflective tape and lanterns on their buggies. TPTB was offended by their outlawry and put them in the pokey.

This is about conformity and control, under the guise of safety.

XNN

 

[Anti Federalist]

The Amish and their buggies were around long before motorized cars and trucks.

Seems to me if anybody should be forced to comply with anything, it ought to be those that came along after the fact.

 

[Anti Federalist]

+rep for both

We have freedom of religion in this country and bright colors run contrary to their religion.

It doesn't matter that you don't like the Amish or God. If you don't stand up for their rights, and everyone else's for that matter, there will be no one around to stand up for yours.

These folks are members of the Swartzentruber sect of Amish. They have offered an alternative to the judge; to use silver reflective tape and lanterns on their buggies. TPTB was offended by their outlawry and put them in the pokey.

This is about conformity and control, under the guise of safety.

XNN

 

[Cutlerzzz]

Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

 

[limequat]

Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Seriously? Don't be a boot licker.

 

[limequat]

Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

1) Overused cliche is cliche
2) In this story, the Amish do the time
3) In this society, you can't sneeze without committing 3 felonies. Do you really support each and every law just because they're on the books?
4) It's a mutherfocking reflector. They're going to jail for a reflector. How can you justify this abuse of power?

 

[Cutlerzzz]

1) Overused cliche is cliche
2) In this story, the Amish do the time
3) In this society, you can't sneeze without committing 3 felonies. Do you really support each and every law just because they're on the books?
4) It's a mutherfocking reflector. They're going to jail for a reflector. How can you justify this abuse of power?

They fought the law and the law won.

 

[Anti Federalist]

If we had private roads, they could make whatever rules they wanted. As it is, these people are forced to pay for the roads, so I think they have the right to use them however they like, so long as they are not harming or recklessly endangering others (i.e. threatening serious, imminent harm).

There's a scary thought.

A private corporation in charge of a vital piece of infrastructure, with limited abilities to create more (and therefore create competition), and the right to make up whatever tyrannical and nonsensical laws it wants while charging whatever fees it wants.

No thanks.

Nothing but respect TT, but this is an idea I see kicked around quite a bit, and one that I am not fond of at all.

It was the taking of private land for railroads in the 19th century that turned eminent domain on it's head and directly led to the atrocious Kelo decision.

And if corporate America today is any indication, privately owned roads would cost a dollar a mile, you could never exceed 25 MPH, and you and your passengers would be required to wear helmets, safety goggles, safety shoes, and be fully swaddled in bubble wrap and duct tape.

The building of roads was one of the limited duties of the fedgov listed in the constitution for a reason.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Seriously? Don't be a boot licker.

lol no.

 

[Cutlerzzz]

Do I need to put a sarcasm tag up? Why the neg?

 

[A Son of Liberty]

There's a scary thought.

A private corporation in charge of a vital piece of infrastructure, with limited abilities to create more (and therefore create competition), and the right to make up whatever tyrannical and nonsensical laws it wants while charging whatever fees it wants.

No thanks.

Nothing but respect TT, but this is an idea I see kicked around quite a bit, and one that I am not fond of at all.

It was the taking of private land for railroads in the 19th century that turned eminent domain on it's head and directly led to the atrocious Kelo decision.

And if corporate America today is any indication, privately owned roads would cost a dollar a mile, you could never exceed 25 MPH, and you and your passengers would be required to wear helmets, safety goggles, safety shoes, and be fully swaddled in bubble wrap and duct tape.

The building of roads was one of the limited duties of the fedgov listed in the constitution for a reason.

Do you really think that would be good for business, AF?

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Do I need to put a sarcasm tag up? Why the neg?

+ rep'd to offset.

 

[Cutlerzzz]

+rep for +1 reping me.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Do I need to put a sarcasm tag up?

Yeah, that would be helpful.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Do you really think that would be good for business, AF?

With a virtual monopoly, who cares?

Business continually makes horrendous decisions wrt to personal liberty all the time.

Never seems to stop them.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

With a virtual monopoly, who cares?

I'd sell a ROW to end such a monopoly. There's one difference between public and private roads - competition. Here's another - legitimate outcry. Complain all you want in this world of "public" roads; the saying goes, "you can't fight city hall". Private companies don't have that sort of clout.

Business continually makes horrendous decisions wrt to personal liberty all the time.

Never seems to stop them.

They do when they have their Big Brother standing behind them.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

+rep for +1 reping me.

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