Americans Think Country is 40% Black, 30% Gay, 22% Trans

[acptulsa]

Oh, I most certainly did not ignore it. If you found more examples from every demographic who don't fit the stereotypes, then you ended up with a textbook case of selection bias. What you ended up with was a small selection of intentionally chosen examples that reinforced the personal philosophy you had been cultivating.

No, what I found is a bunch of people you can't seem to even see right in front of your nose. You seem to have your own selection bias going on where individualists are concerned.

Spot on. I would add that it started ramping up earlier than Dave is talking about, albeit with a slightly different objective. It started around 2007, with major media specials like Black in America on CNN, hosted by Soledad O’Brien. There were plenty of similar specials on other networks. IMHO, it was specifically to support the first campaign of Barrack Obama.

Agreed--except that I believe the object was the same. The sudden interest in affirmative action for the White House was entirely a reaction to the Occupy movement.

 

[BSWPaulsen]

No, what I found is a bunch of people you can't seem to even see right in front of your nose. You seem to have your own selection bias going on where individualists are concerned.

This is just sad. You brag about finding the exceptions, then proceed to put an undue amount of emphasis on the significance of those exceptions so that your personal philosophy - individualism - is reinforced.

What is unfortunate, and what you clearly do not grasp, is that individualism is only contextually relevant. More specifically, it is only applicable to those times when you are dealing with specific individuals. When it is expanded in scale, its adherents are inevitably crushed under the bootheel of collectivists. Humanity is a social species overwhelmingly prone to collective action. There are entire cultures that are archetypally collectivist. Those cultures that are collectivist account for the overwhelming majority of the population of the species. Stereotypes are derived from that reality, and they have existed throughout time due to the potential usefulness of the information.

Your experiences, if they had any meaning outside of you, would have become the new stereotypes if other people were also experiencing similar things to yourself. This has not happened. This will not happen. You are the equivalent of the female tourists that were killed in Morocco. It is probable that the only reason you are alive today is because of the relative safety afforded by this country. Naivety is more harshly dealt with elsewhere.

 

[CCTelander]

This is just sad. You brag about finding the exceptions, then proceed to put an undue amount of emphasis on the significance of those exceptions so that your personal philosophy - individualism - is reinforced.

What is unfortunate, and what you clearly do not grasp, is that individualism is only contextually relevant. More specifically, it is only applicable to those times when you are dealing with specific individuals. When it is expanded in scale, its adherents are inevitably crushed under the bootheel of collectivists. Humanity is a social species overwhelmingly prone to collective action. There are entire cultures that are archetypally collectivist. Those cultures that are collectivist account for the overwhelming majority of the population of the species. Stereotypes are derived from that reality, and they have existed throughout time due to the potential usefulness of the information.

Your experiences, if they had any meaning outside of you, would have become the new stereotypes if other people were also experiencing similar things to yourself. This has not happened. This will not happen. You are the equivalent of the female tourists that were killed in Morocco. It is probable that the only reason you are alive today is because of the relative safety afforded by this country. Naivety is more harshly dealt with elsewhere.

Wow. Just … wow.

 

[acptulsa]

Wow. Just … wow.

Amazing, isn't it? Makes you wonder how he came to wander onto a Ron Paul site.

 

[showpan]

The sky stops falling?

What I got out of the article:

Stop paying attention and start paying attention.

Take ownership of your own life and stop worrying about others. Do the responsible and moral things, and stop blowing things out of proportion. Stop worrying about Florida, Texas, Martha's Vineyard, and worry about your own community and how to improve it. What goes around comes around, so don't get caught in the middle. Think economically, and things just might turn out well.

Unfortunately you cannot simply turn your back on what is going on in other parts of the country or the world for that matter. What is happening in Texas with immigration for example has a direct and profound effect on the entire nation. While I agree that it is important to emphasize your energies towards your direct surroundings, if you contribute nothing to the plight of your fellow countrymen such as our Texan brothers and sisters, how can you possibly expect anything to turn out well? The forces that have gathered against them need a superior force to repel them or you will soon find those forces on YOUR doorsteps and by that time they will have become so overwhelmingly strong, that you won't stand a chance against them by yourself.

 

[PAF]

Unfortunately you cannot simply turn your back on what is going on in other parts of the country or the world for that matter. What is happening in Texas with immigration for example has a direct and profound effect on the entire nation. While I agree that it is important to emphasize your energies towards your direct surroundings, if you contribute nothing to the plight of your fellow countrymen such as our Texan brothers and sisters, how can you possibly expect anything to turn out well? The forces that have gathered against them need a superior force to repel them or you will soon find those forces on YOUR doorsteps and by that time they will have become so overwhelmingly strong, that you won't stand a chance against them by yourself.

My post response from another thread:

It's not like we didn't try to warn them: Donald Trump On The Record

Thanks for the mention [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] ;-)


Years ago I would have been disappointed/happy to know about this, but since then I have realized that all government is slavery; anytime one votes, one is essentially transferring their own power/wealth to others, in hopes that compromises will yield more freedom and money in their own pockets, which simply will never happen.

My hope is that the more those people who were polled think about this, they will come to realize that everything Carlin said in the video is true, and begin to think and act as individualists, and work to DEFUND the State/FED.

It is interesting to me that 1. so many folks believe an Article V Con is the answer, which will essentially legalize many things that are currently illegal, and that 2. many folks talk about and support Secession, which will never happen as far as government is concerned - "yes, you are permitted to leave, form your own state(s), good luck and have a good time - just don't forget to file on time". Yet those same folks ridicule and chastise folks like me/us who see past the charade and who are seceding the best that we can on an individual basis.

This has been going on for thousands of years. It Peat and Repeats. Only now it has accelerated because of technology and the ability to travel in a fraction of the time. And yet people still continue to scratch and claw for ways to bind shackles around their own ankles and give up their personal wealth to TPTB - left and right.

I do stay informed about what goes on in the world, but trying to change things on a mass scale is a waste of my personal time and resources. The people who are employed by the MIC/Pharm Complexes want/need their jobs and will never vote themselves out of work. The legal voters in Section 8 demand their Welfare and will sooner kill you than vote against it. To TPTB, one hand feeds the other - give free stuff away, and then buy our products/solutions to fight back. It's a revolving door.

I am now at the point where after working very hard all of my life, it is now time to enjoy what time I have left. I am happier, freer and do what I want. That is what we are all seeking, isn't it? Except I don't ask for permission.


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...No-Confidence-Vote-to-Rigged-Two-Party-System

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I call it Wizard of Oz Syndrome. A small, but very vocal minority influences the great majority. That great majority is mostly normal people, busy going to work, raising their kids etc. But the majority is afraid to speak up because they think most everyone else is PC. But the reality is most people aren't PC.

A good example of what I call "Wizard of Oz Syndrome" is the fake outrage of the song Baby, It's Cold Outside. A San Fran Sicko radio station fudged the numbers at best, and lied at worst. Practically no one is outraged by that song.

 

[CCTelander]

Amazing, isn't it? Makes you wonder how he came to wander onto a Ron Paul site.

I suppose it’s possible that I misinterpreted his comments, and if so I’m open to correction, but it certainly seems to me that he’s attempting to take collectivism, a philosophy that is demonstrably evil, and paint it as something good that we should seek out and embrace. How anyone who has been a member here for over a decade could bo so egregiously in error is beyond me.

 

[acptulsa]

I suppose it’s possible that I misinterpreted his comments, and if so I’m open to correction, but it certainly seems to me that he’s attempting to take collectivism, a philosophy that is demonstrably evil, and paint it as something good that we should seek out and embrace. How anyone who has been a member here for over a decade could bo so egregiously in error is beyond me.

He has been working at it the whole time.

Oh, well. If he wants to turn a blind eye on people like this man, that's his loss.

 

[BSWPaulsen]

I suppose it’s possible that I misinterpreted his comments, and if so I’m open to correction, but it certainly seems to me that he’s attempting to take collectivism, a philosophy that is demonstrably evil, and paint it as something good that we should seek out and embrace. How anyone who has been a member here for over a decade could bo so egregiously in error is beyond me.

Whether collectivism is good or evil has no bearing whatsoever on it being a dominant expression of aggregate human behavior. Naturally, this is an extension of humans being a social species. People that attempt to moralize it are trying to argue with the general nature of the species itself, so the notion of "seeking it out and embracing it" is puerile. The fact there are individualists does not counter this; it only highlights the fact that they are an extreme minority. This is borne out by the number of societies spanning this Earth run by those entities that individualists abhor - governments. If individualism was the default for humanity, then governments would be a nonfactor. Obviously, the opposite is true. A social species that organizes themselves into hierarchies, which is precisely what humanity does, is going to end up run by some measure of a collectivist model as collectivism translates directly into concentrated power.

This concentration of power also explains why individualists remain impotent on larger social scales or end up getting wiped out altogether. They are incapable of expressing any meaningful degree of power due to forsaking the "evils of collectivism." Yes, we can argue that a society purely built on individualism is a "moral good" and "a goal worth striving for", but this would require the negation of behaviors that have been cultivated over thousands of years and that were useful in the propagation of the species. Put alternately, any moral judgements are irrelevant to the outcomes of collective human behavior. At best, individualism is a contextually useful philosophy that informs interactions between individuals. At worst, it is a liability to its adherent when presented with collective human behavior.