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Americans Have Grown More Supportive Of Torture
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/senate-torture-report-public-opinion/
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/12/09/the-united-states-of-torture/
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2011/10/23/the-return-of-barbarism/
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/senate-torture-report-public-opinion/
The Senate report released Tuesday on the CIA’s use of harsh interrogation techniques during the George W. Bush administration comes at a time when Americans’ support for such techniques are at a high point. The report exposes new details about the agency’s secretive use of particularly brutal interrogation methods — including sleep deprivation, waterboarding and sexual threats — but it may not shift public opinion.
“Overall, I doubt it will change many minds, one way or another, as this issue is completely and intractably polarized,” said Charlie Dunlap Jr., a warfare strategy expert and Duke University School of Law professor. He added: “Don’t be surprised if the next poll shows that a sizable percentage of the American public would still support harsh interrogation techniques short of anything causing permanent physical injury in an extreme situation or especially in the aftermath of a serious terrorist attack by ISIL [Islamic State] or al-Qaida.”
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Data shows that popular opinion on the use of torture by the U.S. government has subtly shifted since 2004, when Pew Research Center began polling Americans on the subject. Pew asked whether torture used against suspected terrorists to gain important information is justified, finding a majority of respondents (53 percent) said torture could never or only rarely be justified. But over the next five years, public opinion slowly reversed.
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By November 2009, a slight majority of Americans said for the first time that torture could sometimes be justified.
In Pew’s 2011 report — its most recent — 53 percent said the U.S. government’s use of torture against suspected terrorists to gain important information can often (19 percent) or sometimes (34 percent) be justified, marking a turnaround from 2004.
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http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/12/09/the-united-states-of-torture/
The idea that "this isn’t who we are," as President Obama has said, and that we have to expose this so that it "never happens again," as Sen. Feinstein put it, is pure nonsense. This is indeed who we are: it is what we became once we acquired a global empire. Waterboarding is nothing new for Americans: we did it to the Philippine rebels when we decided to "liberate" them from the Spaniards. We did worse in Vietnam. What’s more, our proxy armies – the Nicaraguan contras, the Afghan mujahideen during the 1980s, the Syrian rebels today – have engaged in torture worldwide. And don’t forget the many authoritarian regimes we’ve propped up with aid, arms, and diplomatic support, while they torture their own people.
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2011/10/23/the-return-of-barbarism/
How did this happen? We return to the link between virtue and rationality – and the nature of evil as inherently irrational. A President who can hail a death as brutal and bloody as Gadhafi’s, a Secretary of State who can shriek her appreciation of such a revolting spectacle – these are not marginal exceptions to the general rule. Instead, these responses are reflective of America’s inner cultural and political rot – an America that long ago betrayed the Founders, ditched realism, and is now the complete captive of a debilitating madness.
As the Obama administration outdoes its predecessor in its relentless pursuit of empire, what we are witnessing is the return of barbarism, open and unashamed. It is the culmination of a trend that has been long in the making, and one that will go unnoticed as long as it continues – because evil, after all, is blind to its own nature.