American Spectator Slams Our Own Matt Collins

[rockandrollsouls]

Again, none of my family members are in a position to steal from me "legally".

This isn't about swaying opinions, it's about keeping those who violate the Constitution from gaining more power by getting voted into a higher office.

Let me lay it out to you plainly.

You're not accomplishing ANYTHING by being a pompous jackass. And, as far as I'm concerned, you're not in the position to be a jerk to this guy when you haven't invited him to any form of discussion or debate. YOU may be in a new position of power, but YOU haven't made an effort to convert others in the party. You look down on them, treat them like garbage, and isolate them from an embracing freedom movement because you're overblown with pride. You give those of us that want to work with others and help them see the light a bad name.

 

[georgiaboy]

no handshakes for bailouters. i like it.

 

[TruthisTreason]

not sure. We'll find out soon.

lol!

 

[Aratus]

LLS asked a "purple shamrock" good question!

Matt, how are your local committee members reacting to this?

Not sure. We'll find out soon.

dr. rand paul is a very polite man! ---matt collins, your explanations do say
why this hit piece is a hatchet jobbie bespeaking of many more to follow!
you are in a good humour and taking all this in and seeing the humor
inside the same! we all now enter the political fray that is multi-facetted
and multi-sided. wheat from chaff. jack conway still sits with 1.3 million
greenbacks and has spent some of the same. he who once went to NC
on a luncheon junket! ms. darlene fitzgerald price again wonders where
she whistleblower stands inside our vast universe of potentialities, she
also wants to "tea leave" read the voters well long ahead of november
of 2010. dare a meantion a lt-gov who ought to run for governor? sorta?

dr. rand paul is a very polite man! ---alan keyes likes that there johnson
fellow and was at a fundraising dinner for the same. advice and consent, yes!
evidently mr. johnson got pointers on how to run for a senate seat. we now
come to trey grayson and WHOSE senate seat he ought to run for! hint... hint
hint...hint... trey... think of how long mitch mcconnell has served the voters of
KY, and how long you have to wait until a certain said senate race. dear dear
dear trey grayon... adorable YOUNG trey grayson... ask dear OLD mitch mcconnell
for some MORE pointers... sit on the advice for say five or eleven years... and THEN
RUN FULL STEAM, FULL BLAST! Aratus adroitly thinks darlene fitzgerald price and
dr. rand paul just might have a string of debates BETWEEN august and october of 2010...

 

[Todd]

I don't know....Would I shake hands with someone who flushed my children's future down the toilet?

 

[Aratus]

are there purple shamrocks? is there a lore?

who or what are front runners? oh! the wee people and pots of gold! all at the end of a rainbow!
in the merrie isle's auld tales, the wee people who didst merrily boast about the biggest pot of gold
often lost or decreased the same through the fine art of communicating to one's kith and kin!

 

[RCA]

Shaking hands isn't compromising, imho.

 

[Aratus]

life always has more to it than the merrie art of accumulating or stealing pots of gold.
we now pause and explain donnybrooks, near all these bonnie brooks... and how to avoid being
epicenter inside a donnybrook beside a bonnie brook. matt collins, thee with good wit clearly is sending
the tennis ball into the other court, with a smashing good serve, most merrily metaphorically.

 

[Aratus]

tis politeness...

Shaking hands isn't compromising, imho.

Matt Collins, were HE the CONTENDER, the CANDIDATE... he'd have to LEARN the fine art
of the ancient McKINLEY handshake. insted, the bucko is merely only inside thah sweet
sweat spot sorta akin to where KARL ROVE would be... were all about us to be NEO-CON!


Rand... you is polite! methinks your ABLE number two is slightly slightly a tad rude... sorta...
but this all... this historic flapdoddle is VERY early in the game... we indeed adroitly truely
need to be DEEPER inside this all for us all to ponder and wonder if our own Matt Collins should...



A-P-O-L-O-G-I-S-E ...sorta! maybe... somewhat... perhaps... sorta... anyway... something like that!
well...A-N-Y-W-A-Y ...you know... the mass media... all these soundbytes... the very wise & ancient rules
its not that the fellow whose hand he done don't shook is a BAD PERSON... insted... this went mass media


MASS MEDIA? the purple shamrock definition inside the LAST HURRAH? they wuz asomething that had the ward
heelers swearing up all these expletive deleated words as the political landscape shifted about... cautiously
why the swears and curses you ask??? the entire FIELD of HONOR changed in that tyme... some do say sadly...


.

 

[stu2002]

Go Matt Go!!!

 

[Todd]

Eh, I'd disagree.
What has Guilianni done directly to RP to violate the constitution, steal from his pocket or in other ways done harm to RP? Did RP shake his hand after the petulant behavior by Guilianni at the debates, I don't remember.

Whereas, Zach Wamp HAS done things that directly negatively impacted Matt and all of us.

Edit: I can understand shaking the hand of someone you simply disagree with; BUT I can also see NOT shaking the hand of somebody that has directly harmed you in some way.

Sounds very "Paul like" to me.

Paul said he has not met with Obama, pointing out he met with President George W. Bush in 2001: “We had a small group talk about [healthcare]. But soon after that, the war started, and that was [it]. I was not going to break bread with people who do those kind of things.”

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news...energized-grassroots-movement-2009-07-20.html

 

[speciallyblend]

Let me lay it out to you plainly.

You're not accomplishing ANYTHING by being a pompous jackass. And, as far as I'm concerned, you're not in the position to be a jerk to this guy when you haven't invited him to any form of discussion or debate. YOU may be in a new position of power, but YOU haven't made an effort to convert others in the party. You look down on them, treat them like garbage, and isolate them from an embracing freedom movement because you're overblown with pride. You give those of us that want to work with others and help them see the light a bad name.

the devil cannot see the light. he will just make you think he saw the light and then stomp you out! do not think some of these gop folks are on our side. they are gonna try to hi-jack the ron paul message. then they will chew it up and spit it out to something we never intended!

you will not be able to convert everyone! the fact is the gop needs to lose a few more neo-cons. if you think converting neo-cons is the way! you might be able to get some of them,but trying to convert the devil is not going to happen. i predict the gop will fall alot further before it gains. they still are not listening to Ron Paul! /most in the gop talk doublespeak. their goal is to lure us in and then ignore us as they have the last several yrs!

in my eyes matt did nothing wrong!

I know one thing i will not vote for neo-cons posers trying to be like Ron Paul. The gop has a few more years if not longer before .they actually wake up! the gop has no credibility left. the only people who can save the gop now are the ron paul supporters! if the neo-cons stop them. then i bet the gop will be a 3rd party!

RON PAUL 2012

remember the gop had its chance to change in the last 4 yrs and the gop blew it. I blame the gop for what they did to Ron Paul and my vote will keep these neo-con republicans in check until the day i die! the gop will deserve exactly what they get for alienating me and many republicans in Colorado! you do not reward corruption and the gop is the definition of corruption right along with the dnc!

 

[Matt Collins]

Here is my response:


[url]http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2221413[/URL]

 

[Imperial]

There are way too many people who voted for bailouts to do this. We will get nowehere by refusing to even interact with those we disagree with us, who obviously would be a majority...

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Here is my response:


[url]http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2221413[/URL]

The attempt to justify your personality flaws is, for the most part, futile. You have a habit of isolating individuals in positions that could be greatly beneficial to us if you took 5 minutes to sit down with them and discuss your opinions and feelings.

You haven't even attempted to discuss policy with this guy; for all you know, by being approachable and friendly you may change some big minds and throttle yourself to the forefront of your state party...a big victory for freedom. Rather, you burn your bridges immediately.

Consider this scenario; should I not shake your hand now, or hate you, because you affected my children's future by thwarting a chance to change the mind of high profile party members? There's a pretty good chance that you gave this movement and its ideals a bad standing with that man, and if he rejects ideal because of your poor representation of what we are about, by using your logic you should be just as guilty.

 

[purplechoe]

The attempt to justify your personality flaws

Did you ever meet the man? Personality flaws? I could say the same about you. What you call reaching out I call selling out. Oh and my family has been in the liberty fight for generations. My grandfather fought the Nazzis in Poland and my father fough the commies through "Solidarnosc". You have no idea what kind of people you are dealing with (central planners and their useful idiots).

Go shake hands with Stalin while you're at it. I mean we have to work together if we want to win, right? You're one of those useful "you know what".

 

[LittleLightShining]

Not sure. We'll find out soon.

Please keep us posted on this. This is very important for those of us who are working within our local GOP committees.

Matt Collins, were HE the CONTENDER, the CANDIDATE... he'd have to LEARN the fine art
of the ancient McKINLEY handshake. insted, the bucko is merely only inside thah sweet
sweat spot sorta akin to where KARL ROVE would be... were all about us to be NEO-CON!


Rand... you is polite! methinks your ABLE number two is slightly slightly a tad rude... sorta...
but this all... this historic flapdoddle is VERY early in the game... we indeed adroitly truely
need to be DEEPER inside this all for us all to ponder and wonder if our own Matt Collins should...



A-P-O-L-O-G-I-S-E ...sorta! maybe... somewhat... perhaps... sorta... anyway... something like that!
well...A-N-Y-W-A-Y ...you know... the mass media... all these soundbytes... the very wise & ancient rules
its not that the fellow whose hand he done don't shook is a BAD PERSON... insted... this went mass media


MASS MEDIA? the purple shamrock definition inside the LAST HURRAH? they wuz asomething that had the ward
heelers swearing up all these expletive deleated words as the political landscape shifted about... cautiously
why the swears and curses you ask??? the entire FIELD of HONOR changed in that tyme... some do say sadly...


.

Aratus also has a good point. This may end up helping Rand, especially if the committee members support you (you know, the regular people who attend not the party players as it's indicative of the way most of the rank and file are going to go). If the good old boys turn on you the battle is going to be a lot harder. Stick to your guns, though. Your response was fantastic. Principle not personality!

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

well..when glenn beck called us domestic terrorists during the campaign I didn't shake his hand at his book signing either..I pointed to my Ron Paul t shirt and told him I wasn't a terrorist. he said " I DID NOT SAY THAT". so ...good job Matt for standing on your principles. tones

(and ya'll know I'm a glenn beck worshiper)

 

[Objectivist]

Way to go Mr. Collins, there is honor in your words.

 

[Mandrik]

I always wanted to see Ron Paul stand up and maybe not be so nice when he needed to be. That was one of my biggest complaints about him. I know a lot disagree. Don't get me wrong, I love the man for who he is, and he just isn't that type of person. He does have the fire & the principals, and that is why we all care so much about him. We do need people who will stand up and yell when it is needed, even if it is shocking to others. Maybe Matt went too far by not shaking someone's hand. Maybe he didn't go far enough. What I do know is these people in power need to see our rage & our anger in a peaceful form. How we handle that as individuals is up to us.

Bottom line: Smiles & hand shakes are nice enough, but there does come a time when we have to say enough is enough. If our actions result in negative comments from others, than so be it.