Newt Gingrich All Staff have resigned - Campaign all but over

RachelFaith said:
I stated directly that many have aproached the campaign and been less than politely told their advice, money, and services are not needed and given a "thanks, but no thanks" dismissal.

Can't get any clearer than that without embarrassing good people by name dropping.
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I am interested in hearing more about this. Would be willing to share, even if only in a PM? :confused:
 
RonPaulFanInGA said:
Only if she wants it hinted at publicly here later....
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Which I do not. There isn't anything I have to say that is salacious, gossipy or unprofitable. What I say is for the purpose of empowerment and action in the advancement of Liberty. So, sorry, no PM about dirty little secrets. Post any question, and get a direct answer or get ignored, nothing else is going on.
 
RachelFaith said:
Which I do not. There isn't anything I have to say that is salacious, gossipy or unprofitable. What I say is for the purpose of empowerment and action in the advancement of Liberty. So, sorry, no PM about dirty little secrets. Post any question, and get a direct answer or get ignored, nothing else is going on.
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My question is, who, individually by name, is responsible for the incompetence and what did they do?

EDIT: Also, I never got a PM about what's going on in my state. While I think it's very impressive that you know the name of my state's capitol:rolleyes: I would like a lot more specific evidence. Surely you must realize that if you don't provide this, then people are going to be skeptical of your claims?
 
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Sadly, I am not close enough to name names. It is impossible to know who says what inside a meeting where you are not there. And what I do know based on second hand information would put my sources at risk because if the same person is in the same meetings it won't take long for whoever is doing it to figure out where the leaks are. You understand that clearly right? You know that is not smoke, mirrors or deflection, but just logical protection for people I care about, trust and believe, right?

Also, there are two factors, malfeasance and malpractice. One is intentional, deceptive and motivationally driven. The other is unintentional, stupid and based on poor judgement. It is easier to believe in the former, but most events are usually the results of the later. But, I can't ascribe which to which with any certainty, again without taking the risks above.

As for our PM, sorry, I checked and it would violate the above if we spoke further on that subject. And yes, I know most people will be skeptical of my claims. I wish they showed this same level of skepticism for those who are telling them what they want to hear also. Meanwhile, when I know something, I will share it, when I see a problem, you will get notice. Other than that, I guess I'm just going to keep my radio on and say at periscope depth.
 
LibertyEagle said:
She knew about Gingrich 10 minutes before it hit the news, yes.

But, she has implied a great deal more than that.
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No, I knew about it 3 days ago. And I posted about the staff problem then, making yet another cryptic prediction saying it was over.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?297056-Political-Director-Resigns

Today I made it official in detail an hour before Fox News' first tweet and two hours before any of the details were released. Because I am right dab smack in the middle of this cyclone and not much is hidden from me on any campaign. Obviously, I can't post the exact details when only a few people know about them or they would be wise and know who was on the call or in the meeting and who wasn't, but, once the decision is made and the press release written, an hour jump doesn't give anything away and when everyone has already picked out which new campaign they are going to, they don't care anymore.

But, it wasn't 10 minutes. Don't diminish what I am saying, because you sometimes don't want to hear the bitter truth. The only thing you have right Eagle, is I am implying so much more about many other things. Now, are you wise enough to act or will you wait until I am right about that too but it is too late to do anything about it? I think I know the answer. I hope I am wrong on my guess.
 
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RachelFaith said:
Now, are you wise enough to act or will you wait until I am right about that too but it is too late to do anything about it? I think I know the answer. I hope I am wrong on my guess.
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And what, Rachel dear, do you propose we do? We can't force Ron Paul to fire any part of his staff. We can't jump ship because he seems to have a monopoly on this honest, experienced politician gig. I just don't see any others out there. They were all less stubborn than Dr. Paul, and left the cesspool long ago. Yes, the campaign is only a marginal improvement over 2008 so far, but those seem to be 'the breaks'.

The grassroots is stepping up. If we can make up the difference, we will. What else?
 
RachelFaith said:
Because I am right dab smack in the middle of this cyclone and not much is hidden from me on any campaign.

Obviously, I can't post the exact details when only a few people know about them or they would be wise and know who was on the call or in the meeting and who wasn't, but, once the decision is made and the press release written, an hour jump doesn't give anything away and when everyone has already picked out which new campaign they are going to, they don't care anymore.
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You are making this sound pretty cloak and dagger.

Tell me, were there any billionaires on the call?

But, it wasn't 10 minutes. Don't diminish what I am saying, because you sometimes don't want to hear the bitter truth. The only thing you have right Eagle, is I am implying so much more about many other things. Now, are you wise enough to act or will you wait until I am right about that too but it is too late to do anything about it? I think I know the answer. I hope I am wrong on my guess.
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Oh please. What bitter truth, Rachel? With respect to Dr. Paul's campaign, you are not providing enough information for us to do anything with what you are saying. I've asked you for names and you say you do not know them. So what exactly are you thinking we should do with what you've said?
 
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It's pretty clear that Rachel is rubbing LE the wrong way, but from what I've seen, she appears to have some valid criticisms and possibly some inside connections with the campaigns. I hope that LE and/or RPF mods don't chase Rachel away when she is trying to provide some constructive criticisms within the limited framework she has (to avoid compromising her sources).

A lot of people devote time, effort and money to promote and support fundraising efforts for the campaign. It is not unreasonable for for us to have an interest in ensuring that there is competent stewardship in applying those funds appropriately. If there are problems setting up phone banks, buses, etc., this would concern me.

If we learned anything from 2008, it's that the campaign funds need to be spent early. If you don't get a strong performance in the early voting states, the campaign will be over no matter how much money is left in the tank. Let's not repeat the mistakes of '08.
 
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It's pretty clear that Rachel is rubbing LE the wrong way, but from what I've seen, she appears to have some valid criticisms and possibly some inside connections with the campaigns.
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Agreed. She seems to have really great insight into a lot of facets of politicking. Not sure why there's so much hostility against her...
 
BTW - to the OP subject:
Texas Governor Rick Perry is "serious" about making a run for the White House, sources close to Perry tell CBS News.

Perry has been talking with financial backers for the past week on a possible bid and even held a conference call earlier in the week to discuss the matter, the sources told CBS' Jan Crawford.

But Perry was reluctant to run for the nomination without key advisers, including his former campaign manager Rob Johnson and his top political consultant Dave Carney, both of whom were working on the presidential campaign of former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

Johnson and Carney announced their resignations from the Gingrich campaign Thursday as part of a huge shake-up of the organization.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20070378-503544.html#ixzz1OpCnBmkD

Bilderberger's machinations holla!
 
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