Alex Jones to pay $1 billion

and his lawyer never made a motion for a mistrial?

I didn't watch the whole thing, but Reikata law I think did stream most of it, Viva and Barnes were watching closely, they said he did a good job. They are expecting that it will probably be overturned on appeal, but never know.
 
I didn't watch the whole thing, but Reikata law I think did stream most of it, Viva and Barnes were watching closely, they said he did a good job. They are expecting that it will probably be overturned on appeal, but never know.

Im thinking that could have been the plan all along. They want to silence him permanently, but they have figured out a way to at least a temporary ban or at least distract Alex Jones himself with court to keep him from telling his truth before WWIII begins. I think they just want to silence him as much as possible before the election, because if this election happens, there likely wont be another one...
 
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I didn't watch the whole thing, but Reikata law I think did stream most of it, Viva and Barnes were watching closely, they said he did a good job. They are expecting that it will probably be overturned on appeal, but never know.

Possible that it isn't dischargeable either. But maybe a partial amount could be? Guessing in really depends on Connecticut laws.

https://www.newsweek.com/alex-jones...amages, which could potentially be discharged.

Free Speech Systems has already filed for bankruptcy. While Jones may also attempt to declare personal bankruptcy, he will not be able to avoid paying the judgment entirely since bankruptcies do not discharge debts from punitive judgements. However, $965 million awarded on Wednesday was entirely for compensatory damages, which could potentially be discharged.

Still, punitive damages have yet to be decided in Connecticut and are likely to be significant. In the Texas trial, Jones was ordered to pay $4 million in compensatory damages and $45.2 million in punitive damages, although the damages could be reduced due to state limits.

Civil rights lawyer Subodh Chandra told Newsweek that Jones could only hope to partially "escape accountability" by filing appeals and bankruptcy to address the non-punitive damages, while states and plaintiffs will retain options to collect the funds.
 
Free speech is amazing, but you still can’t yell FIRE inside crowded theater


Lying about fake children deaths in CT was all time low for Jonsey

Where he took conspiracy crowd (I was / am part of it) not cool
 
Free speech is amazing, but you still can’t yell FIRE inside crowded theater


Lying about fake children deaths in CT was all time low for Jonsey

Where he took conspiracy crowd (I was / am part of it) not cool

That should be up to the business owner to post signs ;-)
 
Free speech is amazing, but you still can’t yell FIRE inside crowded theater

That's a myth.

https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...g-the-fire-in-a-crowded-theater-quote/264449/

Lying about fake children deaths in CT was all time low for Jonsey

Where he took conspiracy crowd (I was / am part of it) not cool

Speaking of myths, were you not here when this all happened? Why do you distrust the news on other issues, but you seem to trust them here? Doesn't make any sense. Since you seem to be using the mainstream media as a source, you should probably forget everything you think you know about the case, because it's probably all wrong.

Alex Jones was trying to avoid talking about the issue the whole time. In the first two weeks after the incident, it was only mentioned once in a 10 second clip - in over 30 hours of programming.. he said something about how sometimes they use false flag shootings to try to take away our guns. He didn't say this was a false flag, he just said sometimes they use them. A false flag would also presume the shooter wasn't who they said they were, they had a handler, etc..

The problem AJ faced here was that his audience was turning on him. They were claiming he was an intel plant, or they had switched him out for a body double because he wasn't talking about Sandy Hook being completely staged.

There were dozens of videos with tens of millions of views on youtube about it being completely staged. There were many experts out there talking about how the way everything went down after the shooting was completely wrong.

Eventually AJ got hassled enough, that after a few months he decided to have a couple of guests on who seemed highly credible. I have still yet to here a clean, concise audio or video of him saying something bad. All I've seen are some quotes strung together or statements that could easily be taken out of context.

After that, he stopped talking about it and told his staff to stop talking about it.

Years went by and nobody complained. Then Hillary gave a speech in 2016 about AJ, because he was about to help put Trump over the line. They started lying to the parents, some of them thought that AJ had made this a centerpiece of his show and was still talking about it. AJ hadn't mentioned it in years. That's why they had to get the default judgement.

This case is about clearly about trying to destroy the first amendment rights of anybody who speaks out against the government. You don't have to agree that Sandy Hook was all completely staged to defend AJ here..
 
Baloney

Dude went way too far

Also was major ringleader for Jan 6th waste of energy

Why you still tie your boat to this sinking ship is beyond my grasp
 
Baloney

Dude went way too far

No, he barely touched it, only did so months later due to the demands of his audience, skipped out after a very small amount of coverage on the issue and told his staff not to touch the tar baby anymore after that.

Anything else is fake news. You need to stop believing fake news.


Also was major ringleader for Jan 6th waste of energy

Why you still tie your boat to this sinking ship is beyond my grasp

Did you see the video of Alex Jones on his bullhorn on January 6th telling everybody NOT to go into the Capitol, that it was a trap?

You seem to have a major problem with believing fake news propaganda.

As long as you continue to spew BS claims that come straight from the mouth of the enemy propaganda machine, anybody here who knows the facts will just see your advice as toxic.

If you want to give advice, you need to at least start with a factual basis for it and not just regurgitate propaganda that comes straight from the enemy's mouth.
 
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excuses excuses excuses

histronic piped piper did nobody any good, in the end.

believe it. MOVE ON

lots of bad people to fight.
 
Was watching his broadcast the day after the judgment.

Holy shit, the guy is completely unfazed.

It was as though nothing happened, lol.
 
Baloney

Dude went way too far

Also was major ringleader for Jan 6th waste of energy

Why you still tie your boat to this sinking ship is beyond my grasp

If I say "The moon landing was fake." (which it was)

am I going to get sued by the astronauts for defamation and emotional harm? Sued by NASA for 8 kajillion dollars?

Besides the fact that it was like 60 years ago, and the moon landing didnt happen (whereas the sandy hook shooting actually did [probably]) - what's the difference?
 
If I say "The moon landing was fake." (which it was)

am I going to get sued by the astronauts for defamation and emotional harm? Sued by NASA for 8 kajillion dollars?

Besides the fact that it was like 60 years ago, and the moon landing didnt happen (whereas the sandy hook shooting actually did [probably]) - what's the difference?


You don't get it & "you" never will

Not only did Jones lie about this particular event, but he worked his rabid audience into absolutely hating another political party (half of country) for over a decade
While his particular political party was just as guilty if not more so. 911, endless wars etc

Dude was pied pipering folks into Jan 6th foaming frenzy (before capitol raid)

To me he became a Bull horning, extremely unhealthy, psyop, But hey he made a lot of $$$$$ off his fearful half-informed listeners

"FREEDOM" America'! right Texan?
 
You don't get it & "you" never will

Not only did Jones lie about this particular event, but he worked his rabid audience into absolutely hating another political party (half of country) for over a decade
While his particular political party was just as guilty if not more so. 911, endless wars etc

Dude was pied pipering folks into Jan 6th foaming frenzy (before capitol raid)

To me he became a Bull horning, extremely unhealthy, psyop, But hey he made a lot of $$$$$ off his fearful half-informed listeners

"FREEDOM" America'! right Texan?

You don't like the guy, that's fine. Nothing you said provides any justification for this lawsuit
 
You don't get it & "you" never will

Not only did Jones lie about this particular event, but he worked his rabid audience into absolutely hating another political party (half of country) for over a decade
While his particular political party was just as guilty if not more so. 911, endless wars etc

Dude was pied pipering folks into Jan 6th foaming frenzy (before capitol raid)

To me he became a Bull horning, extremely unhealthy, psyop, But hey he made a lot of $$$$$ off his fearful half-informed listeners

"FREEDOM" America'! right Texan?

You don't like the guy, that's fine. Nothing you said provides any justification for this lawsuit

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I don't care what anyone think of Jones (I don't think much of him myself), but this is just farcically ridiculous:

Sandy Hook Families Seek $2.75 Trillion From Alex Jones
Jury Already Awarded Families $965 Million in Damages
Judge to Decide Damages Under State Deceptive Trade Law
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...k-families-seek-2-75-trillion-from-alex-jones
[archive link: https://archive.ph/3lo5Z]​
Laurel Brubaker Calkins (21 October 2022)

Sandy Hook families asked a Connecticut judge to order Alex Jones to pay $2.75 trillion in damages in addition to the almost $1 billion a jury awarded for defamation, claiming only “the highest possible punitive damages,” will stop the Inforwars host from continuing to harm them.

The families said they’re entitled to the amount because Jones broke a state law barring the sale of products using false statements. They reached the sum by multiplying the state law’s $5,000 per-violation fine by the 550 million social media exposures Jones’s audience received on his Facebook, YouTube and Twitter accounts in the three years following a school shooting that claimed the lives of 20 first graders and six educators in 2012.

Jones called family members “crisis actors” for years and said their loved ones weren’t murdered during an elementary school massacre. He denied his statements were defamatory.

“Alex Jones perpetrates this attack for one reason: greed,” the families’ lawyers said in the filing Friday. “Alex Jones will never treat them like real people, because they are too valuable to him as targets. “

State Judge Barbara Bellis will determine the final amount Jones must pay. She has previously said Jones violated the Connecticut Unfair Trade Practices Act, or CUTPA, by selling supplements and survival gear during shows that featured his false claims about Sandy Hook.

The Infowars host claims he’s bankrupt and has vowed not to pay the families a dime. On Nov. 12, a Connecticut jury awarded eight families and an FBI agent who responded to the shooting $965 million for the harassment they suffered from Infowars’ fans who bought into Jones’s hoax theory.

The jurors weren’t asked to consider CUTPA and were only asked to calculate defamation and emotional distress damages after Bellis ruled in a separate proceeding that Jones had defamed the families. Jones was found liable by default because he repeatedly refused to provide testimony and documents detailing how much his enterprise earns.

Traditionally, CUTPA has been used to compensate individuals directly harmed by deceptively marketed products. However, the Connecticut Supreme Court decided in a case Sandy Hooks parents brought against the maker of the rifle used in the shooting that CUTPA damages could be awarded to victims indirectly harmed by products marketed with false statements.

Jones’s lawyer Norm Pattis said in a separate filing Friday that CUTPA damages don’t fit the facts of the case. He said the judge “abdicated” her responsibility to give Jones a fair trial by entering the default judgment and evidentiary restrictions against him.

Pattis also claimed the victims’ lawyers should’ve had to show jurors the amount of damages each plaintiff was entitled to, rather than merely argue damages should be big enough to “stop Jones.” The families’ lawyers also failed to tie the specific harassment each victim suffered to Jones, Pattis said.

The plaintiffs focused on “arousing sympathy, directing anger, and anchoring a large number before the jury with the hope that jurors would do what they did in this case -- award a fortune,” Pattis said in filings requesting that the verdict be set aside and a new trial ordered.

Jones put Infowars’ parent company, Free Speech Systems, into creditor protection in Houston federal bankruptcy court this year, shortly before a different jury in Texas awarded one Sandy Hook family almost $50 million in defamation damages. The conspiracy theorist faces a third defamation trial by a final Sandy Hook family in Texas later this year.

During the Connecticut trial, one of Jones’s employees testified his companies made between $150 million and $1 billion in sales following Sandy Hook.

Pattis said he’ll appeal the jury’s award because he believes Bellis’s default judgment and restrictions on Jones’s testimony prevented him from presenting the political beliefs and free-speech arguments the talk show host claims explain and excuse his false statements.

After a few hours of combative testimony under subpeona, Jones “boycotted” the trial in favor of spouting his conspiracy theories and first-amendment arguments to reporters gathered outside the courthouse.

The case is Lafferty v Jones, CV-18-6046436, Connecticut Superior Court (Waterbury).
 
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Traditionally, CUTPA has been used to compensate individuals directly harmed by deceptively marketed products. However, the Connecticut Supreme Court decided in a case Sandy Hooks parents brought against the maker of the rifle used in the shooting that CUTPA damages could be awarded to victims indirectly harmed by products marketed with false statements.

Regarding that case, see this thread.
 
If I say "The moon landing was fake." (which it was)

am I going to get sued by the astronauts for defamation and emotional harm? Sued by NASA for 8 kajillion dollars?

Besides the fact that it was like 60 years ago, and the moon landing didnt happen (whereas the sandy hook shooting actually did [probably]) - what's the difference?

This is what they are hoping for after this case with AJ.
 
Was watching his broadcast the day after the judgment.

Holy shit, the guy is completely unfazed.

It was as though nothing happened, lol.

Well hopefully that should wake people up that it is all theater.

All designed to keep us from opening our mouths in opposition to anything.
 
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