Alex Jones endorses Trump

[Rad]

There goes the paleo schizotypal vote to Trump. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizotypal_personality_disorder

 

[Mani]

I agree. I listen to Alex Jones every day, he loves Rand........... doesn't think he will make it though. Rand is his first choice, Trump is his second. He does complain however, that Rand should learn how to man up and talk tough like Trump. He says he advised Rand to come out tough, manly, etc. He is also pissed that Rand went on the attack against Trump, rather than someone like Bushit.

So wait....he told Rand to man up and talk tough...and when he did AJ got pissed because it was against Trump?

Sounds like AJ is being a douche.

Fuck Alex Jones.

 

[TheTexan]

He actually prefers Rand. Just thinks Trump has a better chance.

Smart thinking. Certainly wouldn't want to waste your vote

 

[Spikender]

Zero proof here that Jones is supporting Trump. He had him on in an interview recently, I remember that, but I don't remember him endorsing Trump.

 

[jth_ttu]

I just watched video of jones saying "Im supporting trump, if things change and rand has a chance I'll support him" that's not am exact quote but it's pretty close wish I could find the video

 

[jclay2]

AJ gets out more important information on a larger scale then almost everyone except the obvious drudge report. He consistently promotes liberty and has always been a fervent supporter of the Paul's. Rand was a weak and misguided candidate. He chose to attack the guy that was very popular among his target audience. Trump is bringing down the msm and the republican estsblishment. That alone should put a smile on most peoples faces. Is he the candidate with the best platform and ideas? Hell no. Is he the candidate with the strongest and most unapologetic stance in the face of huge media backlash? Yes. Will he come through remains to be seen. The fact that the media is freeking out about him should tell you that there is a chance for good to come out of Trump.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

He actually prefers Rand. Just thinks Trump has a better chance.

That's all there is to it. I think he'll come around if/when Rand wins something. The Jones hate on this thread has more to do with the personality cult surrounding the Pauls displayed by many supporters here, than liberty. Those supporters are only "pro-liberty" if it looks like, talks like, or behaves exactly like the Pauls---genteel, dryly rational, professorial. If progress towards the cause comes in any other form, like a brassy sounding talk show host, or a blue collar sounding, confident business leader, they call it "the enemy."

 

[jth_ttu]

The endorsement comes at the 1:27 mark on the video. http://www.infowars.com/live-now-trump-wins-iowa-in-landslide/

 

[jth_ttu]

That's all there is to it. I think he'll come around if/when Rand wins something. The Jones hate on this thread has more to do with the personality cult surrounding the Pauls displayed by many supporters here, than liberty. Those supporters are only "pro-liberty" if it looks like, talks like, or behaves exactly like the Pauls---genteel, dryly rational, professorial. If progress towards the cause comes in any other form, like a brassy sounding talk show host, or a blue collar sounding, confident business leader, they call it "the enemy."

I'd like to hear how donald trump is libertarian. Is it his eminent domain stance? His support of single payer health care? His stance against guns only a few years ago? His hawkish foreign policy? His complete vagueness on all the questions he gets? I support rand not because he's a paul (he is definitely not his father) but because he's the only candidate supporting liberty and sensible foreign policy.

 

[fisharmor]

I could use the fact that Rand refused to participate in the undercard debate as evidence that he has dropped out, and then use that as an excuse for Jones, and I would be doing absolutely nothing different then a majority of you have been doing since June 2012 after the Romney endorsement.
You cannot have it both ways.

 

[juleswin]

That's all there is to it. I think he'll come around if/when Rand wins something. The Jones hate on this thread has more to do with the personality cult surrounding the Pauls displayed by many supporters here, than liberty. Those supporters are only "pro-liberty" if it looks like, talks like, or behaves exactly like the Pauls---genteel, dryly rational, professorial. If progress towards the cause comes in any other form, like a brassy sounding talk show host, or a blue collar sounding, confident business leader, they call it "the enemy."

I have a feeling that your segment of the population feel more at home when someone is irrational, talks without thinking, is bombastic and can insult people who are not white male. Somehow you people think that gives him credibility and authenticity. But I will say it again, look for the substance not style. Lastly, I trust Rand Paul because I think he has credibility i.e. he has a history that tells me that he would do what he says. Trump on the other hand was saying just this last election cycle where we nominated Romney that the republican party is too extreme.

Just think about this for a moment, how can I trust a man who thinks that the republican cycle that nominated Romney is too extreme, who is very close to the Clintons, who is anti second amendment, pro universal healthcare, supports eminent domain laws to bring about small govt? the is akin to a man who finds God only after being sent to prison. A candidate whose only evidence of "conservative" values can only be found on the campaign speeches is a man I can never trust to be president even if his/her last name is Paul.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

I'd like to hear how donald trump is libertarian. Is it his eminent domain stance? His support of single payer health care? His stance against guns only a few years ago? His hawkish foreign policy? His complete vagueness on all the questions he gets? I support rand not because he's a paul (he is definitely not his father) but because he's the only candidate supporting liberty and sensible foreign policy.

Trump is not libertarian, but his candidacy (as I said) represents progress towards the cause of liberty by scuttling the elite's kingmaker system that has prevented alternative candidates from getting the Presidential nomination of a major party for at least 36 years. Liberty candidates cannot get into the White House until that elite-controlled, approved insider puppets system is disrupted. In Star Wars terms, we have to disable the tractor beam, to escape the Death Star. Voters are leaning towards Trump not because his views are vague, but because his resolve is convincing, and not controlled by mega-donors.

The GOP rank and file and public is frustrated with campaigns that have had the right positions for decades, but then caved or utterly failed to enact them once elected. The anti-establishment trend that Trump rode to first place with is thematically pro-liberty, as it confronts the statist/PC mainstream, shows resolve or backbone against it under pressure, and prioritizes cultural or domestic issues over war issues. This outsider dynamic can serve as a battering ram to knock down the establishment-dominated primary racket, and once knocked down will bring more liberty candidates into office over the long term.

 

[Kade]

Probably trying to avoid being scooped up in the first round of purges.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

I have a feeling that your segment of the population feel more at home when someone is irrational, talks without thinking, is bombastic and can insult people who are not white male. Somehow you people think that gives him credibility and authenticity. But I will say it again, look for the substance not style. Lastly, I trust Rand Paul because I think he has credibility i.e. he has a history that tells me that he would do what he says. Trump on the other hand was saying just this last election cycle where we nominated Romney that the republican party is too extreme.

I'm suggesting the movement can be inclusive of more voting bloc or personality types representing it. I'm not expressing a preference for irrational over rational types, or vice versa. E.g., would it kill people here if a Paul supporter (with the same set of liberty positions) who was overtly evangelical became the next national liberty candidate? That could sure help in places like Iowa and SC. Or what if we fielded another hotshot tycoon type, only one who had our views (like Peter Thiel)? Or what if it was a low-key, articulate, rational pro-liberty guy, but was a 9-11 truther (like Paul Craig Roberts)? How many here would ever consider the LP or CP candidate, if Rand suspends his campaign?

Sadly, not many, from what I've observed here. I have no problem with people being Paul-centric, myself included. But to be blind to other dynamics that help the liberty movement, just because they don't come in the same shape or package as the Pauls, is foolish.

 

[CaptUSA]

Trump is not libertarian, but his candidacy (as I said) represents progress towards the cause of liberty by scuttling the elite's kingmaker system that has prevented alternative candidates from getting the Presidential nomination of a major party for at least 36 years. Liberty candidates cannot get into the White House until that elite-controlled, approved insider puppets system is disrupted. In Star Wars terms, we have to disable the tractor beam, to escape the Death Star. Voters are leaning towards Trump not because his views are vague, but because his resolve is convincing, and not controlled by mega-donors.

The level of delusion you seem to be suffering from is disconcerting. You should really see a doctor.

There is nothing representing "progress towards the cause" in Trump's candidacy. If anything, it is the exact opposite! The kingmakers are using a dancing clown to prevent the masses from being drawn to the liberty movement during a time of their discontent. Seriously, dude. When this is all said and done and you look back on this, you are going to see how foolish you were to believe this.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

The level of delusion you seem to be suffering from is disconcerting. You should really see a doctor.

There is nothing representing "progress towards the cause" in Trump's candidacy. If anything, it is the exact opposite! The kingmakers are using a dancing clown to prevent the masses from being drawn to the liberty movement during a time of their discontent. Seriously, dude. When this is all said and done and you look back on this, you are going to see how foolish you were to believe this.

Seriously, you seem to be the one so caught up in invective, as to not be looking at reality. The elite already know how to rig the primary process to contain and defeat the Pauls, while installing their approved puppet as the nominee, as they demonstrated in 2008 and 2012. And they were already doing the same to Rand in the 2016 cycle, apart from Trump, via the tried and true methods---limiting media mentions of Rand, giving him the least debate time, subtly suppressing his poll numbers, etc. But Trump has totally defeated their attempt to get traction for this year's approved puppets, namely Bush, Rubio and Walker. So the outsider trend truly is busting up the kingmaker racket. If I'm 'deluded,' I'm not the only one:

"The Kingmakers have picked our last bunch of losers. And there’s one loser after another because they were more interested in maintaining their flow of money from the big donors and their cooperation with the Democrats—their bipartisanship—and that’s not my goal. Trump is the only hope to defeat the Kingmakers, because everybody else will fall in line. The Kingmakers have so much money behind them." --Phyllis Schafly

 

[CaptUSA]

Seriously, you seem to be the one so caught up in invective, as to not be looking at reality. The elite already know how to rig the primary process to contain and defeat the Pauls, while installing their approved puppet as the nominee, as they demonstrated in 2008 and 2012. Trump has totally defeated their attempt to get traction for this year's approved puppets, namely Bush, Rubio and Walker. So the outsider trend truly is busting up the kingmaker racket. If I'm 'deluded,' I'm not the only one:

I think you conveniently missed Hillary. And yes, it is possible for the 91 year old Schafly to be delusional. Trump was part of the kingmakers' club well before he started running for President.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

I think you conveniently missed Hillary. And yes, it is possible for the 91 year old Schafly to be delusional. Trump was part of the kingmakers' club well before he started running for President.

And you conveniently left out Sanders, who is certainly not the approved pick of the establishment on the Democratic side, but is nonetheless giving Hillary fits and undermining her credibility as a candidate in a year where her primary process was supposed to be a cakewalk. The outsider dynamic is a real factor that is independent of Trump et al, that you keep evading.

 

[CaptUSA]

And you conveniently left out Sanders, who is certainly not the approved pick of the establishment on the Democratic side, but is nonetheless giving Hillary fits and undermining her credibility as a candidate in a year where her primary process was supposed to be a catwalk. The outsider dynamic is a real factor that is independent of Trump et al, that you keep evading.

Sanders, like Trump, is only allowed to exist to prevent the anti-establishment from coalescing. Ron Paul got too close for comfort last time around. The Tea Party and OWS needed to be consumed and defeated. The "outsider" dynamic has been co-opted by the establishment pretty damned effectively.


(and I think you meant "cakewalk" - at least I hope so.)

 

[erowe1]

He actually prefers Rand. Just thinks Trump has a better chance.

Why does he prefer Trump over Cruz then?