ALERT: Rand Paul is being DETAINED at the Nashville Airport by the TSA

[LiveForHonortune]

This is the kind of talk by supporters that causes many people to pause before supporting Ron Paul.

I'd rather they don't support Paul if they see nothing wrong with this. It's absolutely ludicris and if it wasn't for the massive pressure from the media causing this become headlines all around the world, I seriously doubt they would have let him off so "easily".

 

[tommyzDad]

Guys, guys, guys. There are a lot of comments (mostly from some sheep named Mike Simmons) on Rand's Facebook that he was not in fact detained but only not allowed to board the flight. Granted the media used the word "detained," but was he in fact detained? Is he not allowed to leave the airport as well as not board the flight?

 

[LiveForHonortune]

it just crossed my mind, maybe Rand is going to use this so he can sue and force them to expose that the NSA is operating outside our government. Remember what a federal judge said in the Jesse Ventura case that the NSA was above federal jurisdiction. Maybe he is trying to get a case so he can push to see just what organization is claiming a higher jurisdiction than the federal government.

SCOTUS won't be any good at this point if you've seen what you've ruled the past few years. The 4th amendment is worthless now according to them.

 

[eduardo89]

First off, Gravel...would that be that older guy, what was his name....Mike? Ran for prez last time, I think? Anyone know?

Also - so when AlGore didn't have to obey traffic laws in DC - is that because it's just traffic laws or is that because like so much else in this country, it's selectively applied?

Ding ding ding!!! We have a winner!

 

[LiveForHonortune]

Guys, guys, guys. There are a lot of comments (mostly from some sheep named Mike Simmons) on Rand's Facebook that he was not in fact detained but only not allowed to board the flight. Granted the media used the word "detained," but was he in fact detained? Is he not allowed to leave the airport as well as not board the flight?

We'll have to see what he has to say when Rand gets on judge tonight.

Edit- You know what? Scratch that. Rand and Ron Paul's facebook both use the word "detained".

I'll trust that over the media any day of the week.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

40 pages? Can someone PM me what happened?

 

[JamesButabi]

This whole ordeal wouldn't have been a problem if he just told them the hereditary trait he had that was messing up their scanners........


BALLS OF STEEL

 

[Carehn]

Alex Jones has lost it over this! lol

 

[GunnyFreedom]

So, does Rand always refer to himself in the third person plural?

"is" is singular, plural would have ben "are." And I very much doubt he is writing his own tweets from inside a TSA holding room.

 

[AhuwaleKaNaneHuna]

This whole ordeal wouldn't have been a problem if he just told them the hereditary trait he had that was messing up their scanners........




BALLS OF STEEL

roflmao

 

[eduardo89]

Your interpretation makes no sense. By your reasoning, if they want to stop him from voting, they simply need to detain him before he gets on the plane to DC... not on the steps to Congress.

Which is... kind of what they did here if I understand correctly.

They cannot arrest/detain him with the purpose of making him miss a vote. This is not what happened here. Also, they can only detain/arrest a congressman if he has broken a law unrelated to his duties in Congress, which I the case here. Him refusing a pardon has nothing whatsoever to do with his legislative duties. I'm not defending the law, I hate the TSA and I find the scanners and patdowns unconstitutional, but it's the law (yes, only administrative law because it's a regulation and not a law passed by congress, a law regardless) and until Congress or the courts act and repeal it (doubtful) its the law, simple as that.

And the courts were wrong.

Maybe, but until another court or Congress change it, it's the law.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Time to make the most out of this! Sound the Revolution horns!

"Never let a crisis go to waste"?

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

From what I understand the body scanner showed that Rand had something under his clothing they suspected might be a weapon or contraband and they asked him to be patted down. He refused the pat down and said he would be happy to go through another scanner to show that he was not in possession of contraband. He was then detained (held in a cubicle by local law enforcement) until the next flight and he went through the scanner again without an issue. So...the scanner messed up, he refused a pat down, they held him for a few hours. Did I miss anything?

 

[MsDoodahs]

Ding ding ding!!! We have a winner!

I'd rather be wrong, but I figured it was selective application of the law.....

God we are so far off track, I'm feeling hopeless .....

 

[affa]

Rand is current on a plane for DC. TSA let him go.

However, I am still shocked he went through the radiation scan--what was he thinking?

Source:
Rand's office

Recognize that if he had refused ALL searches, the media would have had more ammunition to slander him. Instead, he went through a scan and offered to go through again, and also bared his leg. This makes him seem cooperative, and gives his refusing to be pat down all the more merit to the average reader/watcher.

All in all, I'm glad he allowed the scan because it's harder for the media to spin it as him being disagreeable.

 

[TheTexan]

Pfft... now all the terrorists know that to get a weapon past security all they have to do is to put it on a senator.

 

[eduardo89]

Eduardo you are misinterpreting this. It does not just apply to immunity during official business on the floor of congress. The founding father's intended to keep enemies from hindering a legislator traveling to and from congress. With the exception of "breach of peace" it is very clear that a senator cannot be arrested for minor crimes less than a misdemeanor. Back before there was air travel legislators would have to travel by land passing through other states and such. It was intended to keep political enemies from keeping a legislator from casting a vote on the floor of congress.

I know exactly what it means. The clause is there to make sure the executive branch can't prevent Congressmen from voting or from congressmen from being prosecuted or sued for doing their job. That doesn't mean they have immunity from unrelated laws, which was the case here. Rand was not being prevented from voting. Unless someone can prove that there was a direct order to stop him from getting to DC to carry out legislative business there was nothing unconstitutional about what the TSA did (let's ignore the blatant unconstitutional nature of the TSA and their scanners and pat downs for a second).

 

[affa]

What a concidence Randy gets detained on the same day the senate begins and what even more of a concidence that he promised to filibuster a certain bill. Also a nice concidence he gets in "trouble" with the very agency he has been fighting agianst since he became senator.

What a day for condiences, amirite?

This is the kind of talk by supporters that causes many people to pause before supporting Ron Paul.

That's an indictment of non-Paul supporters, not Paul supporters.

 

[LiveForHonortune]

I know exactly what it means. The clause is there to make sure the executive branch can't prevent Congressmen from voting or from congressmen from being prosecuted or sued for doing their job. That doesn't mean they have immunity from unrelated laws, which was the case here. Rand was not being prevented from voting. Unless someone can prove that there was a direct order to stop him from getting to DC to carry out legislative business there was nothing unconstitutional about what the TSA did (let's ignore the blatant unconstitutional nature of the TSA and their scanners and pat downs for a second).

Well first off, this being liberty forest, people really can't ignore the unconstituional nature of the TSA.

Second, I'd say being detained on a voting day counts. He should be in DC already. He's going for official government business so he should be granted a domestic version of diplomatic immunity which is what I feel the founders definitely intended.

Everyone has their own personal version of what the bible or constitution means these days it seems...

 

[affa]

I know exactly what it means. The clause is there to make sure the executive branch can't prevent Congressmen from voting or from congressmen from being prosecuted or sued for doing their job. That doesn't mean they have immunity from unrelated laws, which was the case here. Rand was not being prevented from voting. Unless someone can prove that there was a direct order to stop him from getting to DC to carry out legislative business there was nothing unconstitutional about what the TSA did (let's ignore the blatant unconstitutional nature of the TSA and their scanners and pat downs for a second).

I absolutely, completely disagree with you.