Alabama Tried A Donald Trump-Style Immigration Law, It Failed In A Big Way

[William R]

What law? What's an "illegal"? Are you using the concepts of freedom when you talk about these things?

A wetback.

 

[Sola_Fide]

That is false. You are intentionally lying, or just very very confused.

You just posted upthread that you were outraged that people had to prove they were American before enrolling in public schools. That sounds like someone who loves welfare and hates American taxpayers.

Are you retracting your previous statement of outrage?

It "sounds" like someone who likes welfare? No, I'm sorry. I don't support government confiscating the wealth of free people by force, or government schools for that matter. I also don't support a police state, which is what you propose.

 

[Sola_Fide]

A wetback.

Here's your new forum:

stormfront.org

 

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

I don't support government confiscating the wealth of free people by force, or government schools for that matter.

So you admit you were lying earlier when you pretended to be outraged that foreigners couldn't access government welfare programs.

a police state, which is what you propose.

Please cite exactly where I proposed any such thing. If you cannot, you should retract this lie.

 

[Sola_Fide]

So you admit you were lying earlier when you pretended to be outraged that foreigners couldn't access government welfare programs.

Where did I "pretend to be outraged that foreigners couldn't access government welfare programs"?

Link and post please. I'll be waiting for your response.

 

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

I notice you failed to cite anything to back up your claim that I proposed a police state. Thank you for that admission that you were lying. You should find Jesus or something so that going ahead you will not be such a horrible dishonest liar.

Your post #5 on this thread highlighted in bold, clearly implying that it was a bad thing, that foreign schoolchildren were not able to bilk welfare services from American taxpayers.

 

[Sola_Fide]

I notice you failed to cite anything to back up your claim that I proposed a police state. Thank you for that admission that you were lying. You should find Jesus or something so that going ahead you will not be such a horrible dishonest liar.

Your post #5 on this thread highlighted in bold, clearly implying that it was a bad thing, that foreign schoolchildren were not able to bilk welfare services from American taxpayers.

Oh, is this what you meant?

Renting a house or giving a job to an “illegal” became a crime. Police were empowered to demand proof of citizenship from anyone who looked as if he or she might lack it. School administrators were instructed to do the same to children.

The only reason I bolded that is because of the violation of civil liberties that this kind of authoritarianism creates.

You have the same problem as Trump. You whine about "illegals" getting welfare benefits or government schooling when instead you should be attacking the real problem: the existence of government schools and the welfare state.

That is the difference between the nationalism you are proposing and the freedom and liberty that I am proposing.

 

[Voluntarist]

xxxxx

 

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

violation of civil liberties

So it's your belief that foreigners have a "civil liberty" to bilk American taxpayers out of welfare programs. Interesting.

 

[nikcers]

I love that tactic they are using where do you think they get it?

Obamacare is broken it doesn't help people get healthcare it just helps them get insurance.
YOU ARE A TYRANT AND YOU JUST WANT TO TAKE AWAY STUFF FROM POOR PEOPLE

The tax system and entitlement system needs reform we can't afford it, and its a drain on our economy.
YOU JUST WANT TO LOWER TAXES ON THE RICH AND TAKE AWAY OUR CHECKS

There are too many people in jail for non violent crimes.
YOU WANT TO LEGALIZE ALL DRUGS AND LET CRIMINALS ROAM THE STREETS

 

[Sola_Fide]

I could have sworn that was his current primary forum, and that he was simply here proselytizing. There seems to be a lot of stormfronters lately. When does an open forum become an invasion?

Haha!

 

[Sola_Fide]

So it's your belief that foreigners have a "civil liberty" to bilk American taxpayers out of welfare programs. Interesting.

Why do you keep pushing this view on me that I already told you I reject? I reject ANY tax or ANY program that confiscates wealth and redistributes it to ANYONE.

Here is the quote I bolded where it mentions civil liberties:

Renting a house or giving a job to an “illegal” became a crime. Police were empowered to demand proof of citizenship from anyone who looked as if he or she might lack it. School administrators were instructed to do the same to children.

If that is the kind of police state you want to live in, then you are an authoritarian, not a supporter of liberty.

 

[William R]

Here's your new forum:

stormfront.org

Are you calling Dwight Eisenhower a Nazi??

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.html

 

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

I already told you... civil liberties

I reject your contention that foreigners have a "civil liberty" to bilk Americans out of welfare programs.

 

[Sola_Fide]

I reject your contention that foreigners have a "civil liberty" to bilk Americans out of welfare programs.

You shouldn't selectively quote my posts. I think you also selectively read my posts too, because this is the third time I've told you that I don't support any government program of any kind.

Furthermore, the quote I bolded didn't even relate to welfare programs, it related to THE VIOLATION OF CIVIL LIBERTIES THAT AUTHORITARIAN LAWS LIKE THIS CREATE.

Sorry for the upper case letters, but for the third time we are talking about the police state, not welfare. You already know my position on welfare or taxes (there shouldn't be any).

 

[Sola_Fide]

I reject your contention that foreigners have a "civil liberty" to bilk Americans out of welfare programs.

Your focus is entirely wrong. You are focused on who gets the handouts from government rather than advocating for ending/reducing the handout itself.

If the handouts ceased, what would you complain about then?

 

[nikcers]

I don't think that a security apparatus that is able to detect citizens is scary enough, can't you just build a giant prison for us to live in?

 

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

I don't support any government program of any kind.

Yet you keep saying that it's a violation of "civil liberties" to bar foreigners from bilking American taxpayers out of welfare programs.

If you're consistent, you also believe that if a 50-year-old man enrolled in high school as a 14-year-old girl, it would be a "civil liberties" violation to question him.

That's just bizarro stuff. You are pushing a Communist philosophy, not a liberty philosophy.

the quote I bolded didn't even relate to welfare programs,

Government schooling is a welfare program.

 

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

Your focus is entirely wrong.

I am focusing on your own posts and your own words. You are entirely wrong, that part is true.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Yet you keep saying that it's a violation of "civil liberties" to bar foreigners from bilking American taxpayers out of welfare programs.

If you're consistent, you also believe that if a 50-year-old man enrolled in high school as a 14-year-old girl, it would be a "civil liberties" violation to question him.

That's just bizarro stuff. You are pushing a Communist philosophy, not a liberty philosophy.



Government schooling is a welfare program.

Ok, I don't support government schools of any kind. I don't support any government program of any kind. This is the 4th time I've said that.

Why don't you ask thr people here who have known me for years if I am a "Communist". That is just ridiculous. If you are supporting government schools, then you are a Socialist/Communist. You already support a police state, so this wouldn't surprise me.