Alabama Chief Justice Urges Defiance of Federal Tyranny

[Tywysog Cymru]

If Roy Moore is a theocrat, then the founding fathers were theocrats, and so were most of the people who have been nominated for President by the Republicans and Democrats in the past.

As for gay marriage, the 1967 Loving v. Virginia decision was about race, with marriage being the particular issue in question. People today take the decision to mean you can marry whoever you want, and that right to marry should be enforced nationally, but people in 1967 didn't.

 

[Sonny Tufts]

How can a marriage law violate the Constitution if the Constitution doesn't say anything about marriage?

It doesn't say anything about schools either, so are you OK with racially segregated public schools (assuming that there will be such schools)?

 

[Sonny Tufts]

If Roy Moore is a theocrat, then the founding fathers were theocrats, and so were most of the people who have been nominated for President by the Republicans and Democrats in the past.

Just the opposite. The founding fathers wisely put a provision in the Constitution prohibiting religious tests for federal office. Moore, on the other hand, wants to ban Muslims from serving in Congress. In addition, I don't recall that the founders violated court orders or thought themselves above the law.

 

[Origanalist]

Just the opposite. The founding fathers wisely put a provision in the Constitution prohibiting religious tests for federal office. Moore, on the other hand, wants to ban Muslims from serving in Congress. In addition, I don't recall that the founders violated court orders or thought themselves above the law.

Pretty sure they did both.

 

[Origanalist]

This is now the official Trigger Sonny Tufts Thread.

 

[William Tell]

Pretty sure they did both.

I thought they peacefully exercised their 1st amendment rights under the Magna Carta, got a permit for a tea party and were granted a nation in British court because they had a good lawyer?

 

[Origanalist]

 

[tod evans]

are you OK with racially segregated public schools (assuming that there will be such schools)?

I am.

Lunch counters, bathrooms and water fountains too.

Neighborhoods, churches, businesses, etc...

What I'm absolutely not okay with is government mandated segregation.

 

[The Rebel Poet]

It doesn't say anything about schools either, so are you OK with racially segregated public schools (assuming that there will be such schools)?

Recognizing it's not unconstitutional and being ok with it are two different things. I don't think pretty much any institutions should exclud/include people based on race/ethnicity/color, but dealing with that is not the federal government's job any more than it's IBM's job or The Florida Fish and Wildlife Department's job or Brian4Liberty's job.

 

[Sonny Tufts]

What I'm absolutely not okay with is government mandated segregation.

And there you have put your finger on the issue. Government-mandated segregation was what the Brown case ruled unconstitutional in 1954. But there are some who would claim the case was wrong because the Constitution doesn't mention schools.

As far as the federal government's involvement is concerned, the Brown case was brought by private parties, not the federal government, and some institution (e.g., the Supreme Court) had to decide the plaintiff's 14th Amendment claims. In any case, the 14th Amendment explicitly gives Congress the power to enforce the Amendment through appropriate legislation, so Congress could have theoretically outlawed racially segregated schools via legislation (although in 1954 this would have been politically impossible).

 

[jmdrake]

Well guys, he won a Senate nomination by standing up for what he believes in. I agree we should get rid of licenses but their persecution of Moore backfired in the biggest possible way. Maybe there is hope for this nation.

Yeah. Of course Trump campaigning for Moore's opponent probably helped Moore too.

 

[Identity]

Moore was the political upset of the year. Don't think the GOPe hasn't taken notice, Corker resigned shortly afterwards. I wonder if 2018 is going to be the year of the Populist-Conservative insurgence which is fueled by the leftovers of the 2016 "MAGA" movement. Ann Coulter the other day said "MAGA movement" people will go beyond Trump if necessary, and it seems like Alabama proves such is the case.

 

[Origanalist]

Moore was the political upset of the year. Don't think the GOPe hasn't taken notice, Corker resigned shortly afterwards. I wonder if 2018 is going to be the year of the Populist-Conservative insurgence which is fueled by the leftovers of the 2016 "MAGA" movement. Ann Coulter the other day said "MAGA movement" people will go beyond Trump if necessary, and it seems like Alabama proves such is the case.

Well hell, if they don't go beyond Trump then WTF are they good for?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Alabama Chief Justice Urges Defiance of Federal Tyranny

specifically, a recent unconstitutional ruling by a federal judge purporting to overturn the state’s constitutional protections for the “divine institution” of marriage

I'm expecting a lot more of this from soon-to-be Sen. Moore.

Great rhetoric about fighting tyranny, fighting for the Constitution...

...but in practice it's all about trivial culture war issues.

The Fed, spending, regulations, wars, and the PATRIOT Act will be lucky to get 5% as much attention as gay marriage et al.

Hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.