Al Gore an Global Warming, Someone Explain This To Me

[ClayTrainor]

Okay,

I have quite a few friends who think that global warming is such a serious problem, and that Al Gore is the only man with the solution to the problem.

I don't buy this, not for one second, i don't trust Al Gore, and i do believe he stands an awful lot to profit from this whole Global Warming scare.

I'm really not knowledgable though. Could some of you

A. Explain Global Warming as a political issue, and where Ron Paul Stands on it

B. Counter Al Gore's Global Warming Plan with constructive criticism.

It would really help alot so i could convert a few people

 

[jufreese]

al gore would be the only man with the solution seeing hows he made the whole thing up

 

[tonyr1988]

Okay,

I have quite a few friends who think that global warming is such a serious problem, and that Al Gore is the only man with the solution to the problem.

I don't buy this, not for one second, i don't trust Al Gore, and i do believe he stands an awful lot to profit from this whole Global Warming scare.

I'm really not knowledgable though. Could some of you

A. Explain Global Warming as a political issue, and where Ron Paul Stands on it

B. Counter Al Gore's Global Warming Plan with constructive criticism.

It would really help alot so i could convert a few people

A. Ron Paul will do anything within his power to help combat global warming in America. What can he do? Absolutely nothing. Feds have no power to control the environment at all.

B. See point A.

 

[phixion]

You won't convert them. The scientists can't all even agree, meaning your friends who want to believe it's a problem so they can pat themselves on the back for 'caring' about it will continue to believe it.

Pete

 

[jufreese]

A. RP doesnt believe in global warming caused by us.

B. 30 years ago we had a global cooling scare.

 

[humanic]

I've been meaning to read the articles on Freedom Force International on the politics of global warming. This organization was co-founded by G. Edward Griffin and strongly supports Ron Paul.

http://freedomforceinternational.org/freedomcontent.cfm?fuseaction=global_warming&refpage=issues

 

[hillertexas]

Global warming and cooling is natural....even when there are no humans.
The only consistency with the climate, is that it changes.

 

[Staynsane]

It's up to the people of the world to make it "green", or just a better place to live all the way around, not the US Federal Government.

 

[Redcard]

You won't convert them. The scientists can't all even agree, meaning your friends who want to believe it's a problem so they can pat themselves on the back for 'caring' about it will continue to believe it.

Pete

Show me one peer reviewed study that states humans are not responsible for increased CO2 production and collection in the atmosphere.

Just one.

You'll be hard pressed to find one.

Scientists agree.

The MEDIA has created the controversey here.

And no, Jim Inhofe's 400 economists are NOT global warming scientists.

 

[m72mc]

Okay,

I have quite a few friends who think that global warming is such a serious problem, and that Al Gore is the only man with the solution to the problem.

I don't buy this, not for one second, i don't trust Al Gore, and i do believe he stands an awful lot to profit from this whole Global Warming scare.

I'm really not knowledgable though. Could some of you

A. Explain Global Warming as a political issue, and where Ron Paul Stands on it

B. Counter Al Gore's Global Warming Plan with constructive criticism.

It would really help alot so i could convert a few people

watch this

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...547&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=6

 

[PepperdotNet]

Climate change is real.

Believing that humans can do anything at all to alter it is ludicrous.

Gore's plan is simply a transfer of wealth from US to other nations.

 

[Dr.3D]

Watch this one too. Here are a lot of scientists who say man has nothing to do with global warming.

The Great Global Warming Swindle

 

[Redcard]

Climate change is real.

Believing that humans can do anything at all to alter it is ludicrous.

Gore's plan is simply a transfer of wealth from US to other nations.

You apparently know nothing of Gore's plan, other than what you were told it was by some oil company lobbiest who is masking as a scientist.

Here's Gore's plan.

1. Raise fuel economy standards. Right now, cars we make cannot be sold in China because they are too pollutant. They can sell their lead tainted toys over here, but we can't sell a SINGLE model of car of ours over there. Is there any wonder why US auto companies are falling apart? Our products are simply inferior. One state bucked the trend, and they were promptly sued by the EPA.

2. Increase greenway / bikeway / walkway paths. Make biking to work a safe option. Make walking to work a safe option.

3. Switch to CFL's for lighting. Makes sense. They waste less energy, save you money, last longer, and light better.

4. Buy a hybrid. This coupled with #1 are just thorns in the sides of the oil lobbyests. They HATE these two things.

5. Sign Kyoto. Okay, this one I agree with you on. A carbon offset economy is a GOOD THING.. but not when it can be gamed. Not when the sole purpose is to shuffle blame around.

6. Purchase Green Energy. This can be done now, and the few extra cents per kilowatt are often fed back into the energy system to encourage development of more wind farms, solar power farms, and hydro power plants. Nuclear would be nice too.


All in all, we can reduce our carbon offsets to where it was in 1970 by doing steps 1, 2, 3, 4 and 6. All without step 5. Step 5 would have pulled us below 1970.

So please, know the plan. Understand "the plan" would save us money as a nation. It's good for the economy. It's good for the environment.

 

[Redcard]

Watch this one too. Here are a lot of scientists who say man has nothing to do with global warming.

The Great Global Warming Swindle

Many of the scientists in this film claim that they were misquoted and that their data was intentionally reinterpreted for it.

 

[Dr.3D]

You apparently know nothing of Gore's plan, other than what you were told it was by some oil company lobbiest who is masking as a scientist.

Here's Gore's plan.
~SNIP

And exactly how does that stop China from taking over where we left off?

 

[CaptBookbag]

 

[Redcard]

And exactly how does that stop China from taking over where we left off?

It doesn't. But this is a worldwide issue. Besides. Even if you don't believe in it..
Even if you think Al Gore is a pinko commie asshole pretentious prick..

We have cars that suck gasoline. Just freaking drink it. Our requirements haven't gone up for years, and automakers and the oil companies are in bed and loving it.

Don't you want a car that gets you 60, 70, 80 miles to the gallon? Aren't you tired of giving $50 to the oil companies every week?

If you don't believe in this and don't want to save the environment, or don't believe the environment is at risk, fine. I think you're wrong, but I'll accept that opinion.

But telling me that you don't want to save money , reduce foreign oil dependence, and help the economy?

Forget Kyoto. I'd be thrilled if we got our fuel economy standards up somewhere past where they've been for 20+ years, and if more people bought hybrids.

 

[LibertyOfOne]

You apparently know nothing of Gore's plan, other than what you were told it was by some oil company lobbiest who is masking as a scientist.

Here's Gore's plan.

1. Raise fuel economy standards. Right now, cars we make cannot be sold in China because they are too pollutant. They can sell their lead tainted toys over here, but we can't sell a SINGLE model of car of ours over there. Is there any wonder why US auto companies are falling apart? Our products are simply inferior. One state bucked the trend, and they were promptly sued by the EPA.

2. Increase greenway / bikeway / walkway paths. Make biking to work a safe option. Make walking to work a safe option.

3. Switch to CFL's for lighting. Makes sense. They waste less energy, save you money, last longer, and light better.

4. Buy a hybrid. This coupled with #1 are just thorns in the sides of the oil lobbyests. They HATE these two things.

5. Sign Kyoto. Okay, this one I agree with you on. A carbon offset economy is a GOOD THING.. but not when it can be gamed. Not when the sole purpose is to shuffle blame around.

6. Purchase Green Energy. This can be done now, and the few extra cents per kilowatt are often fed back into the energy system to encourage development of more wind farms, solar power farms, and hydro power plants. Nuclear would be nice too.


All in all, we can reduce our carbon offsets to where it was in 1970 by doing steps 1, 2, 3, 4 and 6. All without step 5. Step 5 would have pulled us below 1970.

So please, know the plan. Understand "the plan" would save us money as a nation. It's good for the economy. It's good for the environment.

I really don't see the point. Oil is a finite resource and is not going to be here forever. What are the current temperature projections for the next 50 years a full point clime in average global temperature? Even that is into question given the latest data it could be only 1/2 of a point. By that time the use of oil would be no where close to what we see to day given how scarce it is. Peak production will demand us to find other energy means. You don't need government for this problem because the scarcity of the oil supply will eventually force us to conserve. The government intervention proposed by the GWPers is based on the false assumption that oil is not a finite resource. I don't want to curb the market with carbon taxes and other such nonsense being that we will need all the resources to transform from an oil based economy to one that is not. We don't need government force to force people to by a certain type of car. The market is already producing viable alternatives without the use of the government. Such alternatives are becoming cheaper and more effienct each year without the government's "help".

 

[Redcard]

What are the current temperature projections for the next 50 years a full point clime in average global temperature? Even that is into question given the latest data it could be only 1/2 of a point. help.

For the next 50 years, if you believe the consensus of scientists (and not the Global Warming Swindle Movie which is basically bought and paid for by the oil lobby and contains FAKE graphs, cutoffs of graphs, and horribly skewed scale lines, amongst other things), we're looking at a 1 to 2 degree rise of the temperature, Greenland melted off, and a rise in sea levels of 10 to 20 feet, by 2050.

 

[LibertyOfOne]

The reason why I oppose this is because the government won't help. Just look at the current push for bio fuels made from corn. The people who grow corn want the government to fund that crap even though bio fuels made from corn are close to a net energy loser. That is what happens when you get government involved. With the mandates on cars given how crappy the system is it will only lead to those who have political connection to get their car certified while their competitors struggle because they weren't the ones to lobby for it. That would kill innovation leaving the big fish to monopolize with the force of government, while the small guys get eaten up. Political favoritism happens all the time and has already creped into this issue.