Ahh man, more bashing of Ron Paul... Article: The Conservative Case Against Ron Paul

[angrydragon]

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/...Hawkins&dt=06/15/2007&page=full&comments=true

Nothing new ever comes out of their mouths, it's the same stuff over and over again.

 

[aravoth]

the person that wrote that is about as smart as a bag of hammers.

 

[angrydragon]

Tv and the msm do that to you. =)

 

[UCFGavin]

that guy is an idiot

 

[LeFou]

dang, that's one of the funniest articles i've seen in awhile.

for anyone else who wants to start handing out awards for most-liberal, most-groovy, or most-fill-in-whatever-you-want-here, I've got a tip:

Spend, I dunno, at least 5 or 6 words describing your methodology and/or your definition of "liberal".

 

[Harald]

methodology

http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/methodology.htm

A panel of National Journal editors and reporters initially compiled a list of 187 key congressional roll-call votes for 2006 -- 84 votes for the Senate and 103 for the House -- and classified them as relating to economic, social, or foreign policy. Roll-call data were drawn from the Congressional Record and from Congressional Observer Publications at www.proaxis.com/cop, a private legislative-tracking company.

The ratings system was first devised in 1981 under the direction of William Schneider, a political analyst and commentator, and a contributing editor to National Journal, who continues to guide the calculation process. Data processing and statistical analysis were performed by Information Technology Services of the Brookings Institution.

The votes in each issue area were subjected to a principal-components analysis, a statistical procedure designed to determine the degree to which each vote resembled other votes in the same category (the same members tending to vote together). Ten of the 187 votes (two in the Senate and eight in the House) were dropped from the analysis because they were statistically unrelated to others in the same issue area. These typically were votes that reflected regional and special-interest concerns, rather than general ideology.

 

[ThePieSwindler]

Same arguments that have been debunked multiple times, same uninformed drivel. And i guess Ron Paul supporters are the most irritating because they are also the most passionate, in-your-face types. Thats a good thing, even though it can go overboard sometimes.

Nothing to see here.

 

[LeFou]

dang I stand corrected; the (imo, convoluted) way that RP is found to be so liberal is described at length here:
http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/methodology.htm

I'm too tired to read all that, but it seems to grab on to a sort of correspondence princple where if a bunch of people call themselve conservative, your votes have to line up with theirs in order for you to be considered conservative too.

 

[angelatc]

That's the samy guy who is a consultant for Duncan Hunter. My comment was something like "Wow! There's not an iota of original thought in this entire essay."

 

[LibertyEagle]

Will someone please help me rebut this idiot on TownHall? I have been trying to do my best to hold the fort on that site and they need to see someone else on this article, besides me. We should be able to take his argument apart, piece-by-piece.

This can't just be allowed to stand. WAY too many people read these articles on TownHall.

 

[zMtLlC]

"They attack us because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years."

In other words, America deserved to be attacked by Al-Qaeda.

Of course, thank God that you explained it to us so well, Mr. Hawkins. I wouldn't have had any idea what he meant. Because if someone murders someone else because they didn't like their shirt, it's obviously the victim's fault.

 

[Bob Cochran]

This kind of commentary doesn't amount to a hill of beans. Ron Paul's support is growing quickly regardless of this inconsequential piece. I'm not wasting one more second thinking about it.

 

[mikelovesgod]

Don't worry boys, I laid the smackdown

 

[angrydragon]

Will someone please help me rebut this idiot on TownHall? I have been trying to do my best to hold the fort on that site and they need to see someone else on this article, besides me. We should be able to take his argument apart, piece-by-piece.

This can't just be allowed to stand. WAY too many people read these articles on TownHall.

It's been dealt with so much on this forum, just copy and paste our arguments. I'm sure no one minds on here. Do you already argue with the authors? Or just want someone better to explain to the idiot author?

 

[mikelovesgod]

I made some huge grammatical errors... oops...

 

[angrydragon]

http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/methodology.htm

Man Flake and Paul are at the bottom on nationjournal. NTU rates these two with A's, a taxpayer's friend award (multiple years too).

 

[LibertyEagle]

It's been dealt with so much on this forum, just copy and paste our arguments. I'm sure no one minds on here. Do you already argue with the authors? Or just want someone better to explain to the idiot author?

It seems like I have addressed the same stupid comments that this idiot has put in his article about 10 times on this site over the last month. The frequent commenters have seen my voice over and over. I was just asking if someone could possibly help out on this article, so it would be someone other than me taking his article apart, piece-by-piece.

 

[mikelovesgod]

It seems like I have addressed the same stupid comments that this idiot has put in his article about 10 times on this site over the last month. The frequent commenters have seen my voice over and over. I was just asking if someone could possibly help out on this article, so it would be someone other than me taking his article apart, piece-by-piece.

I already did

 

[angrydragon]

Mike did a good job. =)

 

[Bradley in DC]

The last line explains it all--he's upset that Dr. Paul beats Duncan Hunter.

Please be kind, we're going to need to convert these people after their candidates drop out!