After Nice, Newt Gingrich wants to ‘test’ every Muslim in the U.S. and deport sharia believers

Just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean it's wrong.

lol. Yes, it does.

You made a claim about the CONSTITUTION. The guys you quoted were talking about the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE.

They are two separate documents.

Quoting someone talking about a different document, doesn't back up your assertion about another.

Get it now? :rolleyes:
 
How do you determine who is a Muslim? See if they will eat pork? If Al.Baghdadi shows up clutching a bible and finds Jesus, do we let him in?

The ban on countries is enforceable and probably pragmatic at this point. The ban on all Muslim is discriminatory and unconstitutional.

You ask if they are Muslim. I would go as far to ask them if they reject Muhammad. Maybe even rabid DNA screening if possible.

The US also has a long Constitutional history of restricting immigration based on race. Here are some notable ones.

The Immigration Act of 1924
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924
..it severely restricted the immigration of Africans and outright banned the immigration of Arabs and Asians. According to the U.S. Department of State Office of the Historian the purpose of the act was "to preserve the ideal of American homogeneity

Immigration Act of 1917 (also known as the Asiatic Barred Zone Act)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1917
This act added to the number of undesirables banned from entering the country, including “homosexuals”, “idiots”, “feeble-minded persons”, "criminals", “epileptics”, “insane persons”, alcoholics, “professional beggars”, all persons “mentally or physically defective”, polygamists, and anarchists. Furthermore, it barred all immigrants over the age of sixteen who were illiterate. The most controversial part of the law was the section that designated an "Asiatic Barred Zone", a region that included much of Asia and the Pacific Islands from which people could not immigrate.

Immigration Act of 1903 - Anarchist Exclusion Act
Chief Justice Melville Fuller wrote the Court's decision holding that the Bill of Rights does not apply to aliens and that Congress had the right to deny entry to anyone they deemed a threat to the country..

Geary Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geary_Act
Extended and strengthened the Chinese Exclusion Act.

Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act
Restricted immigration of Chinese laborers for 10 years. Prohibited Chinese naturalization. Provided deportation procedures for illegal Chinese.

Page Act of 1875 (Sect. 141, 18 Stat. 477, 1873-March 1875)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_Act_of_1875
The first federal immigration law and prohibited the entry of immigrants considered as "undesirable". The law classified as "undesirable" any individual from Asia who was coming to America to be a contract laborer strengthen the ban against "coolie" laborers, by imposing a fine of up to $2,000 and maximum jail sentence of one year upon anyone who tried to bring a person from China, Japan, or any oriental country to the United States "without their free and voluntary consent, for the purpose of holding them to a term of service"
 
You ask if they are Muslim. I would go as far to ask them if they reject Muhammad. Maybe even rabid DNA screening if possible.

The US also has a long Constitutional history of restricting immigration based on race. Here are some notable ones.

Yes, yes, even the Irish were not considered white and were brought over as slaves. They were treated much worse than the blacks because they were free and weren't worth much. Hands & feet cut off, hung upside down, tortured.

The awful Jews were allowed to leave Germany and came to the US for sanctuary. They were refused and sent back to Germany- we all know the end of THAT story.

How about those Japanese camps where all the American Japanese were sent? Their properties were taken from them, many lost everything, died, starved, all because of prejudice and hate.

Because people have deep prejudices doesn't make their actions constitutional. And just because some judges decide something doesn't make it constitutional- aren't you ladies the ones that are fearing judges appointed by Hiterly?

Either you are for freedom or you are not. Either you work toward liberty for ALL or you do not.

Your version of America is the very thing that Ron Paul stood up against.

Go figure.
 
I hate it when the media brings up Charlie Hebdo as if I should feel sorry for that scum of the earth. I do not believe they deserved to be killed but they truly are the scum of the earth. Now it sounds like they are giving a helping propaganda hand to the very people that killed their fellow employees and still wants to kill them to. Yep, scumbags.

That is some strong words. But to be fair there also news that CH was mingled or merged with Rchild owned paper "Liberation" that hearted US based dronegansta.

French Paper owned by French-Israeli Zionist Édouard Rothschild stands up for Free Speech
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Then there were reports of Libya's Gaddafi financing last French President's election and folks of Liberation aiding Obama.

It's a complicated mess.



 
smh


You're telling me that just because these very important words above were written in the DOI and not the Constitution, that they don't apply to the Constitution? You want to ignore them when it's convenient?

Give it up. You lost the argument. You're just embarrassing yourself at this point.
 
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Taqiya (تقیة taqiyyah/taqīyah, literally "prudence, fear, caution")[1][2] is an Islamic term referring to precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution.[3][4][1][5]


On a sidenote from American perspective, could our DGP be engaged in that sort of deception:

Obama's Taqqiya Unravels

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/10/obamas_taqqiya_unravels.html




Incidentally, some BLM supporters had claimed persecution also although would be just circumstantial connection.
 
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Yes, yes, even the Irish were not considered white and were brought over as slaves. They were treated much worse than the blacks because they were free and weren't worth much. Hands & feet cut off, hung upside down, tortured.

The awful Jews were allowed to leave Germany and came to the US for sanctuary. They were refused and sent back to Germany- we all know the end of THAT story.

How about those Japanese camps where all the American Japanese were sent? Their properties were taken from them, many lost everything, died, starved, all because of prejudice and hate.

Because people have deep prejudices doesn't make their actions constitutional. And just because some judges decide something doesn't make it constitutional- aren't you ladies the ones that are fearing judges appointed by Hiterly?

Either you are for freedom or you are not. Either you work toward liberty for ALL or you do not.

Your version of America is the very thing that Ron Paul stood up against.

Go figure.

The Irish were not intent on coming here to implement theirs laws and demand the infidel convert or die. You make it sound like these people are US citizens that are some how entitled to come here. They are not. The question is what are you motivations that you are so intent on supporting a policy of importing people that hate everything we stand for including individual liberty and want to kill us?
 
On a sidenote from American perspective, could our DGP be engaged in that sort of deception:

[h=1]Obama's Taqqiya Unravels[/h]http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/10/obamas_taqqiya_unravels.html

^^ notice what this one does whenever someone criticize Islam; 100% of the time it will be something about Obama == Muslim. The purpose is to draw out the hate and intolerance that has now become known as the GOP brand. Almost always on racial topics, too. To what ends, I don't know; I guess someone has an interest in associating this ideology with the Pauls, or liberty movement in general.
 
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The purpose is to draw out the hate and intolerance that has now become known as the GOP brand. Almost always on racial topics, too.

Are you opposed to discussing racial topics?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...on-Sex-VIDEO&p=6177657&viewfull=1#post6177657

For Whites Sensing Decline, Donald Trump Unleashes Words of Resistance

Started by CPUd, 07-13-2016




What is wrong with showing radical Islamic connections of dronegangsta who has a track record of lying/deception?

I thought you were Hillary supporter, did not not know DGP's criticism irked you even more.
 
This is probably the first thing that Newt Gingrich has said in several years that I actually think is sensible. After seeing the carnage these past couple months, I think we need to pass up on further "cultural enrichment" because we may run out of space to bury the bodies. I have my doubts that Trump will actually implement this policy based on some dubious things he said earlier, but given that I am not an Islamophile and I like my head remaining attached to my shoulders, if Trump decides to do something along the lines of what Gingrich is saying, I won't complain. Still not going to vote for him though.
 
The Irish were not intent on coming here to implement theirs laws and demand the infidel convert or die. You make it sound like these people are US citizens that are some how entitled to come here. They are not. The question is what are you motivations that you are so intent on supporting a policy of importing people that hate everything we stand for including individual liberty and want to kill us?

The Irish were also hated because they were CATHOLIC and were thought of about the same as you do Muslims.

Here's the answer for your fear and hatred:

Get the gov out of the ME and stop the senseless killings.

There are currently 2.75 million Muslims in the US and all the BS that you've been told about Muslims simply is not true.

THIS is the state of Muslims in America today:

This report includes facts and figures from various surveys and studies, all of which are hyperlinked in the body of the story.

(CNN)Donald Trump sparked a firestorm of criticism from liberals, conservatives and those in between when he called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States.

But while such a ban is unlikely to be implemented in a country with freedom of religion, the cheers that followed his announcement at a South Carolina rally are telling.

"I think that we should definitely disallow any Muslims from coming in. Any of them," supporter Charlie Marzka, 75, told CNN. "The reason is simple: We can't identify what their attitude is."

Indeed, the truth about Muslims in America is perhaps surprising -- but not in the way Trump and his supporters might think.

A look at polls and studies conducted in the last few years shows that Muslims have been crucial in helping law enforcement find terror suspects in the United States. Many have served in the military protecting the country against terrorists. And in many ways, they're a lot like other everyday Americans.
Here's the reality of Muslims in America -- and how it smashes stereotypes:

They are a minuscule portion of the U.S. population
It's difficult to come by hard numbers because the U.S. Census doesn't collect religious data. But the fear of Muslims taking over and imposing Sharia law is unfounded. By some estimates, Muslims make up less than 1% of the U.S. adult population. By 2050, their numbers will grow -- to 2.1%. Of all the Muslims in America, 63% are exactly the kind Trump wants banned -- immigrants.

They're better educated than most Americans
U.S. Muslims have the second-highest level of education among major religious groups in the country; Jews have the highest. And a greater proportion of them have college degrees than the general U.S. population.

They have more gender equality
While in many parts of the Muslim world, women are confined to second-class status, that's not the case among American Muslims. Virtually all of them, 90%, agree that women should be able to work outside the home. American Muslim women hold more college or postgraduate degrees than Muslim men. And they are more likely to work in professional fields than women from most other U.S. religious groups.

They've been here since the birth of the nation ...
Scholars estimate about a quarter to a third of the Africans brought to the United States as slaves were Muslims. Most were then forced to convert to Christianity.

... and they're not just clustered in big cities
American Muslims live in cities big and small all across the United States. The first mosque built in America was in, of all places, Ross, North Dakota, back in 1929.

They're as religious as Christians ...
The general perception of Muslims has one thing right: Most Muslims are very religious. About half say they attend the weekly Friday prayers. But that makes them similar to Christians: About 70% of Christians say religion is important in their lives, and about 45% go to a weekly service.

... but they're not as dogmatic as they are portrayed
Much has been made about fundamentalist Muslims and their strict interpretation of the Quran. But most American Muslims are different. A Pew religious landscape survey found that 57% of American Muslims say there is more than one way to interpret Islam's teachings. A similar number say many different religions can lead to eternal life.

There have been Muslims involved in terrorism ...
From September 11, 2001, until the end of 2014, 109 Muslim-Americans plotted against targets in the United States. And terrorism by Muslim-Americans killed 50 in the same time period. Contrast that with the deaths from other mass shootings just last year: 136 -- more than twice as many as all the deaths from 13 years of Muslim-American terrorism.

... but they've also spoken out against it
After every terrorist attack at home and abroad, the refrain rises, "Where is the Muslim condemnation?" American Muslims have spoken out -- and done much more. A Duke University study found more terrorism suspects and perpetrators were brought to the attention of law enforcement by members of the Muslim-American community than were discovered through U.S. government investigations. And a Pew survey found that roughly half of U.S. Muslims say their religious leaders aren't speaking out enough against Islamic extremism.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/us/muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception/
 
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The Irish were also hated because they were CATHOLIC and were thought of about the same as you do Muslims.

Here's the answer for your fear and hatred:

Get the gov out of the ME and stop the senseless killings.

There are currently 2.75 million Muslims in the US and all the BS that you've been told about Muslims simply is not true.

THIS is the state of Muslims in America today:



http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/us/muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception/

Again, the Irish were not intent on coming here to implement their laws, to reject the Constitution and demand the infidel convert or die. You make it sound like these people are US citizens that are some how entitled to come here. They are not. The question is what are YOUR motivations that you are so intent on supporting a policy of importing people that prefer Sharia law over individual liberty?

Are you Muslim?
 
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Again, the Irish were not intent on coming here to implement their laws, to reject the Constitution and demand the infidel convert or die. You make it sound like these people are US citizens that are some how entitled to come here. They are not. The question is what are YOUR motivations that you are so intent on supporting a policy of importing people that prefer Sharia law over individual liberty?

Are you Muslim?

It's OK to torture the Irish because they were brought against their will? They weren't immigrants, they were slaves, so it's cool to have more laws that will end up making Americans slaves- that will take away the last vestige of freedom left? It was cool to turn away those 1000's of nasty Jews so we could complain about Hitler, later?

Do you have any idea what you are asking for when you take away the 1st Amendment? This won't stop with immigrant Muslims- soon it will spread to American Muslims, then Hindus, Buddhists, Christians- hell, you could legally shoot a Mormon in Missouri until the Extermination Order was rescinded in 1970. Your little desires aren't going to stop at your favorite hate, Muslims; it will spread everywhere.

It always does and it always has.

And, no, I'm not a Muslim- just a fighter for the rights of the individual.

You may call me NEO.

 
And, no, I'm not a Muslim- just a fighter for the rights of the individual.

Most of what you keep posting is irrelevant to the discussion since no one is promoting torture or violating human rights. You also keep avoiding question and points I am making about individual rights. You say you are a fighter for the individual but at the same time hell bent in importing the kind of people that are against and desire to curtail individual rights.
 
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