After Nice, Newt Gingrich wants to ‘test’ every Muslim in the U.S. and deport sharia believers

[Ender]

I nor anyone here has not even come close to using such a slogan. Ron Paul was right about blowback but that does not mean we also ignore the ideological problem of Islam.

So....... what about all the peaceful Muslims that live here and have for years?

And what religion is it exactly that drones the ME, killing millions of innocents?

 

[CPUd]

I nor anyone here has not even come close to using such a slogan. Ron Paul was right about blowback but that does not mean we also ignore the ideological problem of Islam.

I never said "water is wet", but this morning I jumped in a creek and now I'm drying my socks.

 

[kahless]

The only plausible way would be metadata. His plan is to target people and make them take some sort of test that determines whether or not they support sharia law. Which they could always just lie, its just an excuse to increase domestic surveillance for deep state purposes.

Documents of birth, take a look at social media, ask if they are Muslim and maybe go as far to ask them if they reject Muhammad as their prophet of god.

 

[kahless]

what part of non intervention don't you understand.

What part of "Ron Paul was right about blowback" that you do not understand? What does securing our borders have to do with non-intervention? Again, why are you and a few others here so hell bent on opening our borders to potential terrorists? What is your motivation and what do you expect to gain by it? Hmmm.

 

[phill4paul]

Documents of birth, take a look at social media, ask if they are Muslim and maybe go as far to ask them if they reject Muhammad as their prophet of god.

You want to ask a person to renounce their religious belief? Including American citizens? You really have no place in the liberty movement. At all.

 

[Ender]

What part of "Ron Paul was right about blowback" that you do not understand? What does securing our borders have to do with non-intervention? Again, why are you and a few others here so hell bent on opening our borders to potential terrorists? What is your motivation and what do you expect to gain by it? Hmmm.

This rhetoric sounds familiar.....

Despite that, the power of Jewry and its supporters grew so great in the German people that it lead to the collapse in 1918. The primary cause for this was the large increase in the population of our people, combined with growing liberal tendencies, which led more and more Germans to misperceive the fact of the racial problem, and thus become indifferent to the Jewish danger.

The National Socialist worldview has in recent years opened the eyes of the greater part of our people to this problem. The German people has recognized that the Jew has crept in like a parasite not only into our people, but into all the peoples of the earth, and that it is attempting to corrupt the original racial characteristics of the peoples in order to destroy them both racially and as states, and thereby rule over them.

It is, nonetheless, false if one German or another concludes that since the Jew has been eliminated from German politics, that Jewish influence has also been entirely eliminated from our thinking and conduct. One even sometimes hears the superficial view that things are the same in other peoples of the world, since they have followed our example. That is true in only a few cases. Instead, we must remember that according to reliable statistics, there are about 16 million religious Jews in the world, 10 million of whom live in Europe alone, almost three fifths of the total. Another 4.5 million live in America, 800,000 in Asia, 530,000 in Africa, 25,000 in Australia. These figures alonge prove that the Jewish danger is particularly great in Europe. It is also clear why the dramatic growth of Jewry in America is such a danger for us. The Jew is establishing his main forces in the Western Hemisphere, from where he believes he will be able to continue to wage war against us from a secure position.

It is in part this uncertainty that drives the Jews to pursue their goal of world domination more quickly and more consistently. Even Goethe wrote: “The Jew will not spare us.” We can be sure that this is more true today than ever before. In the book by the Jews Zangwill and Roth titled Now and Forever, a conversation reveals what the Jewish world parasite sees as its final goal, world domination [the book referred to is Now and Forever: a Conversation with Mr. Israel Zangwill on the Jew and the Future (New York: R. M. McBride, 1925)]. With all the passion in the Jewish breast, the book tells the story of a Jew out for revenge. He wanders from country to country, gathering his forces, at the head of which he ruins Europe with sadistic horror and lust for destruction, this Europe that will not bow to the Jew, but instead stands in the way of his path to world domination.

We National Socialists believe the Führer when he says that at the end of the battle, unleashed on us as his strongest adversary by the Jewish world parasite, the Jewish race in Europe will be destroyed. Until this destruction occurs, we must always remember that the Jew is our absolute enemy who will shrink at nothing. He knows but a single goal: our complete destruction.

http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/weltparasit.htm

 

[kahless]

You want to ask a person to renounce their religious belief? Including American citizens? You really have no place in the liberty movement. At all.

No, I was replying to what questions would you ask to determine if a person is Muslim if you were trying to stop them from entering the country. Some say they would lie about being asked if they are Muslim. But maybe some hardcore people of faith would not answer "yes" to the question about the prophet. So you would then have your answer if the person was lying about being Muslim and then deny their entry.

If you are speaking of questioning of people here. Well if they are publically advocating violent aspects of Sharia and for overthrowing our government, then questioning them is not really an issue is it.

 

[kahless]

This rhetoric sounds familiar.....

http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/weltparasit.htm

19 pages before reaching the Goodwin's law post. Have a nice day. Bye bye.

 

[Ender]

19 pages before reaching the Goodwin's law post. Have a nice day. Bye bye.

You mean your finally going to stop talking about unconstitutional spying, investigating, and questioning of Americans?

Hallelujah!

 

[kahless]

You mean your finally going to stop talking about unconstitutional spying, investigating, and questioning of Americans?

Hallelujah!

No, it means I am done responding to your posts. With every one of your replies it is a complete mischaracterization of my comments or a major off topic leap. Your last post Hitler and now this one saying I support "unconstitutional spying" and questioning American citizens without cause.

 

[Ender]

No, it means I am done responding to your posts. With every one of your replies it is a complete mischaracterization of my comments or a major off topic leap. Your last post Hitler and now this one saying I support "unconstitutional spying" and questioning American citizens?

Good grief- have you read NOTHING of what the OP is about?

Gingrich’s proposal, which made no distinction between U.S. citizens and noncitizens, would violate scores of First Amendment-based Supreme Court rulings as well as civil rights laws that together bar discrimination on the basis of religion, entanglement by the government in religion and restrictions on freedom of expression and belief.


Specifically the First Amendment reads: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof … .

The Council on American-Islamic Relations condemned the attack in Nice as well as Gingrich’s call to “test” and deport Muslims in the United States.
“When former House speaker Newt Gingrich suggests that American Muslims be subjected to Inquisition-style religious test and then expelled from their homes and nation,” CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awaid said, “he plays into the hands of terror recruiters and betrays the American values he purports to uphold.”

 

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[nikcers]

What part of "Ron Paul was right about blowback" that you do not understand? What does securing our borders have to do with non-intervention? Again, why are you and a few others here so hell bent on opening our borders to potential terrorists? What is your motivation and what do you expect to gain by it? Hmmm.

There is that broken window fallacy again. I'm not saying we don't need people to repair windows if we stop breaking windows. I'm saying we need to stop fucking breaking windows, and Trump or Clinton isn't going to do that, so we are going to get more broken windows and less freedom.

 

[kahless]

Good grief- have you read NOTHING of what the OP is about?

The OP posted an article from WAPO. a news organization with an agenda.

If they are publicly advocating violent aspects of Sharia and for overthrowing our government, then questioning them is within bounds of the Constitution.

 

[nikcers]

The OP posted an article from WAPO and news organization with an agenda.

If they are publicly advocating violent aspects of Sharia and for overthrowing our government, then questioning them is within bounds of the Constitution.

I think you have an agenda.

 

[kahless]

kahless, do you honestly believe that Ron or Rand Paul would agree with this approach to the problem?

Rand Paul proposed a ban on immigration from terrorist nations which included mostly Muslim countries. If it is necessary to take it a bit further and banning Muslims I do not have an issue with that and do give a damn if Ron/Rand do if it is necessary to enforce border security.

 

[nikcers]

Rand Paul proposed a ban on immigration from terrorist nations which included mostly Muslim countries. If it is necessary to take it a bit further and banning Muslims I do not have an issue with that and do give a damn if Ron/Rand do if it is necessary to enforce border security.

Don't lump Ron/Rand in with cheeto hitler.

 

[cajuncocoa]

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[Ender]

The OP posted an article from WAPO. a news organization with an agenda.

If they are publicly advocating violent aspects of Sharia and for overthrowing our government, then questioning them is within bounds of the Constitution.

YOU were praising Newt and this article & now you dismiss it?

SMDH

Here's a few more links to enjoy. One is Hannity with Gingrich- I'm sure you'll love that.

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[nikcers]

I know what Rand proposed. And I know that YOU don't have an issue with going further. The fact that you don't give a damn about Ron/Rand's opinion about going further, or the liberty position about going further tells me all I need to know. Thanks for the response. That said, you still haven't provided an adequate method of identifying Muslims.

They will develop a government smartphone app ala pokemon go, and mine peoples information with their consent to protect the border.