Adam Kokesh ordered held without bond in D.C.

[A Son of Liberty]

People can reasonably dispute the utility of Kokesh's actions, but the suggestion that he had it coming, or that he somehow screwed up his life is disingenuous, at best. Your Rosa Parks analogy, green, is spot on.

 

[fr33]

Nobody to blame but the jackboots who arrested him and are charging him with "crimes".

And it sounds like they are getting scared...

 

[JK/SEA]

Adam Kokesh donation receipt.

Item Description Qty Taxable Unit Price Item Total
AVTM3TEMP TEMPORARY ORDER/DONATION FORM 1 N US $100.00 US $100.00

DID AND DONE.

Donation dedicated to 69360.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Molyneux thinks it was too early for this, and mostly because the press controls the narrative and like you said, the people aren't awake yet and will buy that he is dangrous.



30:12 - Charles asks Stefan his thoughts on the Adam Kokesh situation.

That's because Stefan is our enemy and should be treated accordingly.He opposes

He opposes Ron Paul, he opposes civil disobedience, he gets up in front of a pro-liberty audience and tells them not to vote for people like Ron Paul, exc.

At the best, he's an absolute, total idiot.

I believe he was released on bond or OR from his arrest in Philly last month, not sure how that case ended. I think the court is justified in it's belief he will continue to break the law given his prior actions, total lack of cooperation or participation in prior proceedings and his mental state.

At first I figured he might be cointelpro with all the crazy actions, but it seems like he just need mental health treatment now.

You're a shill for the establishment too. I recommend you leave.

-1.

He ran in a solidly blue district. He had no chance in hell in the general anyway. It was all for show.

And let me guess, you wouldn't have given him your vote?

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

Amen brother! +1.

BTW I'm already starting to read moles (paid ones too) on other political sites attempting to tie Adam Kokesh to Rand Paul (since he endorsed him long prior to this circus).

Rand Paul is trying to win in the political process, so distancing him from Kokesh is probably wise.

Mr. Amash, et al, are attempting to sweep back the ocean with a broom.

Mr. Kokesh has turned his back on the ocean.

I don't exactly see either strategy working, but at the same time, not trying is just letting your enemies win. Which is a bad idea.

Yup, because most people do not want freedom.

They hate it, in fact.

We continue to ignore this key fact.

True.

Snark aside, AF, he's obv cuckoo. Who's he, thinkin' he can just load a shotgun in Washington, D.C.? Cuckoo, with a side of criminally dangerous, thankyouverymuch. Anyone who loads shotguns in WDC should be locked up... and throw away the key while yer at it, boyo.

We can all sleep safe tonight, in the quiet comfort that a vicious gun-loader ain't getting back out on the streets on some bogus bond set by a gun-nut judge. Streets are safer, I tell ya.



It's like screaming at people behind bullet-proof glass sometimes...

It does indeed feel like screaming at people behind bullet proof glass...

The worst is when people seriously try to tell me Mitt Romney was the "Lesser of two evils" and that I'm even delusional for not thinking so. Its ridiculous.

In jail no. A few months ago I would have thought that. But now I think he should be in a VA hospital or something like that until he sorts himself out.

He's messed up his future pretty badly now with multiple felonies and federal charges. Hopefully he can get his life back together.

No he doesn't. He's a hero of the liberty movement with the guts to commit civil disobedience. Not a "criminal." Shut up and stop defending our enemies. I'll likely be back to neg rep this one later.

 

[Christian Liberty]

Bryan, can we force him to change his username to 666?

Either way, that's what I'm going to refer to him to from now on.

This is the idiot that neg repped me for "Not showing adequate respect" to the military. Yet he shows this kind of disrespect to liberty activist Adam Kokesh. Its ridiculous.

I guess if you murder people for Uncle Sam, you deserve respect, but if you dare go against him, you don't...

This thread is very illuminating when it comes to who the real friends of liberty are. 666 is not, and neither is Failineux...

 

[A Son of Liberty]

That's because Stefan is our enemy and should be treated accordingly.He opposes

He opposes Ron Paul, he opposes civil disobedience, he gets up in front of a pro-liberty audience and tells them not to vote for people like Ron Paul, exc.

At the best, he's an absolute, total idiot.

There are plenty of things one could say about Molyneux, but that he is an enemy of the liberty movement is not one. He is opposed to the state, and is fairly eloquent in defense of his views.

I don't exactly see either strategy working, but at the same time, not trying is just letting your enemies win. Which is a bad idea.

Neither strategy will work, but turning your back on it is less futile, and is empowering.

The worst is when people seriously try to tell me Mitt Romney was the "Lesser of two evils" and that I'm even delusional for not thinking so. Its ridiculous.

Yet, in many ways it is the same argument you use above.

 

[TheTexan]

One procedure is to get the law changed. The other is to "commit" the crime, and then take the case as high up the chain as you can. Is there some other option?

When constitutional law is ignored and discarded, as it is today, there does exist another option for redress, but its generally considered more of a duty, than an option

 

[Anti Federalist]

In jail no. A few months ago I would have thought that. But now I think he should be in a VA hospital or something like that until he sorts himself out.

He's messed up his future pretty badly now with multiple felonies and federal charges. Hopefully he can get his life back together.

If anybody thinks that we are going to find our way out of this nightmare without serious risk to life, limb and "future", they are wrong.

 

[Christian Liberty]

There are plenty of things one could say about Molyneux, but that he is an enemy of the liberty movement is not one. He is opposed to the state, and is fairly eloquent in defense of his views.

I don't believe him. Controlled op., IMO.

Neither strategy will work, but turning your back on it is less futile, and is empowering.

How is it any less futile?

Yet, in many ways it is the same argument you use above.

In what way? I'm pretty sure you too supported Dr. Paul and did not support Mitt Romney.

I'm not an anarchist anyways, I'm a minarchist (As my sig says) but even if I were a full-blooded ancap, there's still a difference between a lesser good and a lesser evil.

If anybody thinks that we are going to find our way out of this nightmare without serious risk to life, limb and "future", they are wrong.

Unfortunately, I don't think the bolded portion actually belongs.

 

[69360]

And let me guess, you wouldn't have given him your vote?

Back then before he went totally off the reservation? If I lived in his district then I think I would have. I wasn't a fan of his style, but mostly agreed with him on issues. He had zero chance of winning a blue district anyway. The way he behaves now, no absolutely not.

 

[69360]

If anybody thinks that we are going to find our way out of this nightmare without serious risk to life, limb and "future", they are wrong.

I'm not so worried yet, I have things that concern me, but all I really want is to be left alone. Where I am now is fine nobody bothers me and won't for the foreseeable future. I moved to where I am for that reason. If I can no longer live my life the way I want to I'll reevaluate it then. I'm proactive, rather than complain I will take action to remove myself from bad situations.

 

[Christian Liberty]

You are such a sad, sad member of this place.

Sure. So are both the George Bushes.

Indeed.

People can reasonably dispute the utility of Kokesh's actions, but the suggestion that he had it coming, or that he somehow screwed up his life is disingenuous, at best. Your Rosa Parks analogy, green, is spot on.

Indeed.

Back then before he went totally off the reservation? If I lived in his district then I think I would have. I wasn't a fan of his style, but mostly agreed with him on issues. He had zero chance of winning a blue district anyway. The way he behaves now, no absolutely not.

You're a statist mole...

 

[AuH20]

I'm not so worried yet, I have things that concern me, but all I really want is to be left alone. Where I am now is fine nobody bothers me and won't for the foreseeable future. I moved to where I am for that reason. If I can no longer live my life the way I want to I'll reevaluate it then. I'm proactive, rather than complain I will take action to remove myself from bad situations.

You can't be that optimistic?

 

[69360]

You're a statist mole...

Hey if calling people names floats your boat, then great. I probably agree with you and Kokesh 90% on issues. I just totally disagree with his methods. It makes us look very bad and you are wrong if you think he hasn't badly damaged his future.

I hope he gets the help he needs. I thought he was cointel or a grandstanding jackass, but I was wrong, it's pretty obvious now he's just a guy fighting his demons in a very public way.

 

[69360]

You can't be that optimistic?

I live in Maine in the woods, things are fine here. Take it anyway you like, but I'm hundreds of miles from a major city and in the whitest state in the country with vast natural resources and an almost unguarded border to get out if shtf. So yeah, I'm not so worried, yet. It could change.

 

[JK/SEA]

Hey if calling people names floats your boat, then great. I probably agree with you and Kokesh 90% on issues. I just totally disagree with his methods. It makes us look very bad and you are wrong if you think he hasn't badly damaged his future.

I hope he gets the help he needs. I thought he was cointel or a grandstanding jackass, but I was wrong, it's pretty obvious now he's just a guy fighting his demons in a very public way.

well if you go with Adam 90% of the time, perhaps you could tone down your negative comments about him and find topics that really matter to you...like Weiner.

 

[69360]

well if you go with Adam 90% of the time, perhaps you could tone down your negative comments about him and find topics that really matter to you...like Weiner.

Agreeing on issues is one thing and taking actions that I think damage causes I believe in are another. I think what he does harms chances of things I want happening. I still believe in the process, it's damaged but not a total loss yet.

 

[phill4paul]

I'm not so worried yet, I have things that concern me, but all I really want is to be left alone. Where I am now is fine nobody bothers me and won't for the foreseeable future.

You need to work on the "foreseeable" future by being a little more worried, now.

"All I really wanted was to to be left alone."

Three a day. If you don't support others in their attempt to draw a line in their sand how long until the line reaches yours? Three a day.

 

[JK/SEA]

Agreeing on issues is one thing and taking actions that I think damage causes I believe in are another. I think what he does harms chances of things I want happening. I still believe in the process, it's damaged but not a total loss yet.

one word.....Weiner.

 

[phill4paul]

I hope he gets the help he needs.

I hope you do too. Like a SWAT raid on the wrong address. Your address.