Adam Kokesh ordered held without bond in D.C.

[Murray N Rothbard]

http://wtop.com/109/3404250/Activist-Adam-Kokesh-ordered-held-without-bond-in-DC

Looks like this time they're playing hardball, too.

 

[JK/SEA]

This judge is about to get his ass handed to him.

 

[phill4paul]

 

[donnay]

A political prisoner!


ETA: EVERYONE on this forum should be outraged--right, wrong or indifferent.


First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

~ Martin Niemöller

 

[TonySutton]

no victim, no crime!

 

[green73]

That Drudge is using his name and red I think really says something.

 

[JK/SEA]

Judge deny's bail then says 'thankyou for your service Mr. Kokesh'

 

[Anti Federalist]

Of course he is.

And he'll be a forgotten unperson in six months, just like all the other politicals.

Poor brave bastard.

A political prisoner!


ETA: EVERYONE on this forum should be outraged--right, wrong or indifferent.


First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

~ Martin Niemöller

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Mass murderers aren't held without bond. They may have an un-payable bond set, but generally speaking they aren't held "without bond".

The state considers Kokesh a threat to its existence. What an honor.

I salute you, Mr. Kokesh.

 

[WM_in_MO]

No victim, no crime!

 

[Christian Liberty]

Mass murderers aren't held without bond. They may have an un-payable bond set, but generally speaking they aren't held "without bond".

The state considers Kokesh a threat to its existence. What an honor.

I salute you, Mr. Kokesh.

Amen: +1.

Isn't this a violation of the 8th amendment?

 

[truthsaga]

It's funny how for years everyone talks about doing something and when someone pushes the envelope, we find reasons for it being "too much" or a majority of us simply ignore it.

 

[Lucille]

Bastard. Adam is not a danger to the community.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013...sh-facing-charges-for-carrying-gun-in-public/

I was sitting in the court room during Adam's preliminary hearing today. The Judge was 100% in the prosecutions pocket and wouldn't allow the defense attorney to ask the officer on the stand the simplest of questions. The Federal detention facility where Adam is being held also confiscated all of his legal documents and when the defense attorney brought that up the Judge said, "Well he can pay the court for a copy of today's record."

What a joke. Judge Sullivan is a puppet.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

Mass murderers aren't held without bond. They may have an un-payable bond set, but generally speaking they aren't held "without bond".

People are held without bond:

Dangerousness is the "likelihood" a person will commit a (violent) crime in the future. ... pre-crimes.... The Supreme Court has ruled ... if you're arrested on criminal charges, you can be denied bail on the grounds that you're "dangerous".

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?412611-Dangerousness-and-Pre-Crime

The Supreme Court ruled that this does not violate the 8th Amendment, since no excessive bail was offered, let alone required. http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5741581181224640770

ETA: The judge didn't just "find" that Kokesh would likely commit a crime if released. The judge "found" that Kokesh would likely commit unlawful violence if released.

 

[AuH20]

It's funny how for years everyone talks about doing something and when someone pushes the envelope, we find reasons for it being "too much" or a majority of us simply ignore it.

Effort was there. Strategy sucked.

 

[CaptUSA]

It's funny how for years everyone talks about doing something and when someone pushes the envelope, we find reasons for it being "too much" or a majority of us simply ignore it.

I sense his strength and power growing. Here's hoping he can use it wisely.

 

[Christian Liberty]

"No Bail" is functionally equivalent to infinite bail. Infinite bail is excessive.

 

[green73]

Effort was there. Strategy sucked.

I look forward to seeing how your efforts pan out.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

People are held without bail... when they are considered a flight risk. Anyone with any sense can see that Kokesh isn't a flight risk. The state considers him a threat. That is why they are holding him without bond.

 

[donnay]

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


They simply ignore all the amendments--because they are above the law!