According to the campaign HQ

[migueld]

Ron Paul is supposed to be fighting for change, There has been enough of a stink about votes that he should demand a recount. Why are fighting then?...One guy blogs about his family's vote not been counted then they go " oh...that was a mistake" all better now. The election is being run by a convicted drug dealer..see image below:



And being done on Hackable Diebold machines....Paul has millions, what would a few K matter when we are fighting for change and exposing fraud?...If he won't get a re-count i will be wondering about that.
Besides, he made sure to get the paper work in for re-election back in Texas.
http://www.texasgop.org/site/DocServ...pdf?docID=4443

 

[gold standard]

Dan,

I suspect he may lose a lot of his military veteran support over this issue. I'm a fellow USAF veteran and if he does not call for a recount I will lose a great deal of enthusiasm for his campaign although I will still vote for him. I truly believe this is worth fighting over. I am not suggesting the campaign drop everything else but a recount should be demanded.

 

[Molly1]

Who is Kenneth Hajjar?

 

[USAF Vet Dan]

Dan,

I suspect he may lose a lot of his military veteran support over this issue. I'm a fellow USAF veteran and if he does not call for a recount I will lose a great deal of enthusiasm for his campaign although I will still vote for him. I truly believe this is worth fighting over. I am not suggesting the campaign drop everything else but a recount should be demanded.

A recount should be demanded IF there is adequate, credible evidence of significant vote fraud. I feel the campaign is currently failing to publically address this issue which is not helping to keep the solid support he needs to continue a productive campaign. The grass roots has admirably done much of the organizing, fundraising, etc., but this vote fraud issue that only the official campaign can address.

 

[dannno]

Dan,

I suspect he may lose a lot of his military veteran support over this issue. I'm a fellow USAF veteran and if he does not call for a recount I will lose a great deal of enthusiasm for his campaign although I will still vote for him. I truly believe this is worth fighting over. I am not suggesting the campaign drop everything else but a recount should be demanded.

The problem is the media would spin it into a really bad direction. They say that any advertising is good advertising, but not always in a political campaign. You probably saw what they tried to pull a few days ago in The New Republic.

I agree there should be a recount, and I would sponsor one if I were him, but we got another Republican who is willing to sponsor the recount and Alex Jones has people who are willing to pay for it.

 

[xoomac]

Yes,

Not only demand a recount, but call people randomly in Sutton and Nashua, et al to appear on Alex Jones' Radio show to comment about what they know, and then sue "Diebold" for attempt to commit voter fraud with the collusion of those running the primary!

People should be up in arms about this!

Just go to www.freedomforceinternational.org and scroll down home page to "The Future is Calling" essays and hit "click here" which will direct you to the next page. Go to the far right of the page to "Collateral Issues" and click on "Electronic Vote Fraud" or just go to YOU TUBE and type in ELECTION DECEPTION. The video is very good.

Diebold or "evoting" has reared the UGLY side of technology in politics, but YOU TUBE is really helping Dr. Ron Paul and exposing "evote" voting fraud and we need to demand HAND BALLOTS for ALL the rest of the primaries nationwide and even insist on PRECINCT POLICE PRESENCE (i.e. volunteers, NOT armed police officers) to certify the HAND BALLOTS match the FINAL VOTE COUNT!

Enough is enough!

Wake up and Speak up America.

Let's take action and take our country back from the neo-cons and FEDS before it's too late!

 

[Esor]

I would laugh (sad to say) if you folks pressure the campaign to get a recount and after the recount RP is left with less votes than before.

 

[dannno]

I would laugh (sad to say) if you folks pressure the campaign to get a recount and after the recount RP is left with less votes than before.

I would be very, very suspicious.

 

[bolognium]

The campaign are the only ones being logical, rational and who are actually thinking of the consequences of touching this issue...

They can't afford to make quick decisions that may ruin everything.

They don't have that luxury. Please can people stop berating them...

Pete

Exactly.

Besides, it's too late to jump ship now - where are you gonna go? We need a tight focus on the grassroots level - we can't fall apart now.

It's early - and focusing energy on recounts would have zero affect on super Tuesday.. that energy ought to go for the win.

 

[xoomac]

Voter Fraud + Censorship = TYRANNY!

Look...it's NOT a matter of whether or not Voter Fraud took place as much as HOW MUCH and by WHOM!

There are those who have the power to do so and will seek to manipulate and intimidate or mess up and mess on whatever Dr. Ron Paul is doing to discredit him, just like the line of questioning on tonight's FAUX NEWS GOP debate in SC where one moderator had the nerve to ask Dr. Paul IF he is ELECTABLE @ all!

Piss or get off the pot boys!

Just check out Alex Jones' cite www.inforwars.com and click on the "Diebold" story and then watch the YOU TUBE video on VOTER FRAUD (10 minutes) and see how with only "8" ballots/votes cast the computer screws up on the 1st attempt and instead of recording "6" NO's and "2" YES's it spits out a register record of "7" YES's and "1" NO!

I kid you not!

Then a computer tech. picked @ random, after an exact Diebold voting machine is selected from the same NH primary finds the problem right away in the first 10 minutes and says the technology is OLD!

C'mon! The PROOF of FRAUD is there!

Contact your state's Ron Paul coordinator like I did and ask them to DEMAND A RECOUNT by HAND!

 

[Birdlady]

Exactly.

Besides, it's too late to jump ship now - where are you gonna go? We need a tight focus on the grassroots level - we can't fall apart now.

It's early - and focusing energy on recounts would have zero affect on super Tuesday.. that energy ought to go for the win.

We all love Ron Paul because he is a principled man. He is consistent with his voting record and his translation of the Constitution.

However, if he doesn't at least do SOMETHING about the vote fraud, I am officially done. My Ron Paul sign is coming out of the yard and I will do no more canvassing or putting input into this forum.

Why spend time on Ron Paul when I can be waking people up about other issues in this world such as our poisoned food supply. There will be a huge decrease in support for Ron Paul as a whole and all of you saying to focus on the next states, won't have much backing. The money won't come in anymore and in Michigan, South Carolina, Nevada, etc his votes will be stolen once again and you will all just say it was a victory. There's no way I can handle this FORUM'S DENIAL ANY LONGER. Voter Fraud happened and it needs dealt with!

In the next 7 primary/caucus coming up EVERY State except Maine, ONLY use a form of Diebold (now called Premier Election Solutions). Maine still uses the same machines as we saw in NH, but some towns still hand count them.

I am sick of our efforts being destroyed because the RP campaign doesn't have enough BALLS to stick up for this. If the campaign is this easily willing to turn a blind eye, I am not so sure I want him in the White House.

Kucinich has open the doorway for Ron Paul. He has agreed to do a recount and the Paul campaign needs to take some notes from him.

Kucinich Seeks NH DEM Vote Recount
"In a letter dated Thursday, Kucinich said he does not expect significant changes in his vote total, but wants assurance that "100 percent of the voters had 100 percent of their votes counted."

Kucinich alluded to online reports alleging disparities around the state between hand-counted ballots, which tended to favor Sen. Barack Obama, and machine-counted ones that tended to favor Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. He also noted the difference between pre-election polls, which indicated Obama would win, and Clinton's triumph by a 39 percent to 37 percent margin."

 

[Electric Church]

IF ALBERT HOWARD DOES IT I THINK THAT WILL COVER US BECAUSE I THINK HE IS ON THE REPUBLICAN BALLOT AND THAT WILL MAKE THEM RECOUNT THE WHOLE PARTY, INCLUDING US.

That's my understanding of it anyway.

This is the best news to date. This will allow Ron to focus on getting out the message, facing down a hostile media and keeping up his hi level pace of activity which is rough for a 22 year old.

This has brought me some encouragement along with this post:

By dReporter | January 10, 2008
BREAKING!! Urgent I just Talked to Albert RE:Recount!!!!

http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=1098#more-1098

Posted January 10th, 2008 by takeactionWow….I just called the phone number….and guess who answered…Albert Howard himself.

[email protected]

He said that he needs everyone to donate ASAP. It could cost as much as $12,000 to do the full recount, and he is flying to NH tonight and the recount is on. He also said to please pray for his safety in this quest. He wanted everyone to understand how “BIG” this is!!!!
Alex Jones is preparing a nationwide news conferance right now to expose the entire thing!

He also said…..God Bless all of us, and any support would be appreciated. Call now and talk to him!!!

I got chills!!

He asked for this to be posted everywhere….PEOPLE THIS IS HUGE!!!

 

[Birdlady]

We need people watching the recount. You can't just fund it and then not have lawyers and people present questioning things and overseeing stuff.

It really would be a waste if we didn't have all this organized and planned out.
This guy willing to do this is sweet, but we can't do it half assed or it won't mean a damn thing. That's why RP needs to do it imo, but whatever I guess he isn't.

 

[Electric Church]

How can Ron Paul at his age be overseeing the recount in NH while at the same time going on debates, interviews, all over the country at 72 years old? IMHO the guy's startin ta look a little worn out and frail from all the fightin.

This just may be the solution we needed and out of all those people that were in NH before I'm sure a lot of them wouldn't mind stickin around for the cause of having their vote counted.

 

[dannno]

Why spend time on Ron Paul when I can be waking people up about other issues in this world such as our poisoned food supply.

Cause it won't change much. The reason our food supply is poisoned is because of the Fed (no, really )

We're getting a recount, the media would spin it bad if Ron Paul asked for one, so lets see if we can't prove something this way, then next time he can call them on it.

Besides, he practically admitted there was voter fraud. He knows his supporters are going to be just as pissed as he is and will get to the bottom of it.

 

[Molly1]

We need people watching the recount. You can't just fund it and then not have lawyers and people present questioning things and overseeing stuff.

It really would be a waste if we didn't have all this organized and planned out.
This guy willing to do this is sweet, but we can't do it half assed or it won't mean a damn thing. That's why RP needs to do it imo, but whatever I guess he isn't.

yes, we can get out the NH and MA meetup groups to do that.

 

[Electric Church]

We're getting a recount, the media would spin it bad if Ron Paul asked for one, so lets see if we can't prove something this way, then next time he can call them on it.

good point ...they'll call him a sore looser and he'll have another lie he'll have to use up his talking point time to defend himself against instead of using that valuable time for delivering the message to first time recipients.

 

[Publius Freeman]

Bump. Resources need to be unified behind recount. So as to not be splitting threads or campaigns, would suggest consolidating constructive comments under Project NHRECOUNT.

 

[Birdlady]

Cause it won't change much. The reason our food supply is poisoned is because of the Fed (no, really )

We're getting a recount, the media would spin it bad if Ron Paul asked for one, so lets see if we can't prove something this way, then next time he can call them on it.

Besides, he practically admitted there was voter fraud. He knows his supporters are going to be just as pissed as he is and will get to the bottom of it.

I will have more satisfaction waking people up to the use of MSG, HFCS, BHT, TBHQ and other toxins in our food supply, rather than supporting a presidential candidate who won't do the principled thing and ask for a recount.

Everyone says RP is principled and consistent. Well not now in my eyes. He will let voter fraud slide because his good name is involved?

The media didn't spin it when Kucinich filed today. He is considered much more crazy than RP in my opinion. He is saying exactly what RP should say.
"In a letter dated Thursday, Kucinich said he does not expect significant changes in his vote total, but wants assurance that "100 percent of the voters had 100 percent of their votes counted."

yes, we can get out the NH and MA meetup groups to do that.

Okay these people have to really WANT to do this. Photos need taken of the tally sheets and anything else that seems important. You can't just show up and sit around. You have to be actively watching. This isn't about feeling good like so many other things that grassroots has been doing. This is serious. No sign waving, no RP chanting, nothing.

If I sound pissed it's because I am. I am freakin' ticked off beyond belief right now. I would never support Kucinich for president but he has my respect now.

 

[Molly1]

Birdlady, I'm hoping we'll have our recount secured tomorrow.

Why don't you wait until after 5pm est tomorrow night to be pissed if we don't have a recount request filed for the Republican party?

Hopefully, we will.