Abraham Lincoln: Tyrant

[NewRightLibertarian]

Probably in the early 1900s in the upper South, and in the 1960s in the deep south.

Nah, it would have happened way earlier due to technological advances. And there would be way less of racial disputes with it being gotten rid of peacefully. But since America's version of Hitler (Abe Lincoln) had his way, our country has suffered to the point of being a completely ruined despotism. He got to keep his power, and Yankee imperialism has now been spread all across the globe with tens of millions of people being murdered just like the southerners who only wished to peacefully secede were murdered. So remember that the next time that predator drone rains hellfire down on a child in Pakistan, people like you are the moral justification for such an act happening.

 

[RickyJ]

The fact that the United States ever tolerated slavery is sickening. Shouldn't throw the babies of jefferson, washing, et al out with the bath water though.

Not all states did tolerate it. Yes I agree, it should have been done away with when the country was first started, and some called for it to be abolished then, but they were outnumbered.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

Nah, it would have happened way earlier due to technological advances. And there would be way less of racial disputes with it being gotten rid of peacefully. But since America's version of Hitler (Abe Lincoln) had his way, our country has suffered to the point of being a completely ruined despotism. He got to keep his power, and Yankee imperialism has now been spread all across the globe with tens of millions of people being murdered just like the southerners who only wished to peacefully secede were murdered. So remember that the next time that predator drone rains hellfire down on a child in Pakistan, people like you are the moral justification for such an act happening.

Apartheid lasted until the 1990s in South Africa and Jim Crow laws lasted in the US until the 1960s. Both ended from intense outside pressure.

 

[cbrons]

Was the civil war waged over slavery? I don't know. I do feel, however, that an end to slavery is why the common northerner fought.

The common northern fought because hey were conscripted. If the avg northern white thought they were fighting simply to end southern slavery, they wouldve overthrown the government.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Apartheid lasted until the 1990s in South Africa and Jim Crow laws lasted in the US until the 1960s. Both ended from intense outside pressure.

You sure love spouting irrelevent nonsense, don't you? But whatever you need to justify the terrorist acts of your vaunted government hero, I guess.

 

[cbrons]

Nah, it would have happened way earlier due to technological advances. And there would be way less of racial disputes with it being gotten rid of peacefully. But since America's version of Hitler (Abe Lincoln) had his way, our country has suffered to the point of being a completely ruined despotism. He got to keep his power, and Yankee imperialism has now been spread all across the globe with tens of millions of people being murdered just like the southerners who only wished to peacefully secede were murdered. So remember that the next time that predator drone rains hellfire down on a child in Pakistan, people like you are the moral justification for such an act happening.

Dont forget lincolns general Sherman and the ethnic cleansing of the Plains Indians.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Dont forget lincolns general Sherman and the ethnic cleansing of the Plains Indians.

How galliant would have Hitler looked if the Germans had won WW2? The millions of deaths of Jews would have been a small price to pay for victory just like the hundreds of thousands of American deaths during the Civil War. I'm sure that Hitler and company could have invented some supposedly valid reason for it to happen too like they have here.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

You sure love spouting irrelevent nonsense, don't you? But whatever you need to justify the terrorist acts of your vaunted government hero, I guess.

I'm with the pro-liberty movement, I oppose slavery.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

I'm with the pro-liberty movement, I oppose slavery.

You should be against the tyrant Lincoln then who was more than happy to keep slavery around as long as he could lord over the south.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

You should be against the tyrant Lincoln then who was more than happy to keep slavery around as long as he could lord over the south.

Lincoln should never have allowed the southern states to rejoin the union. He should have raped and pillaged the women and then looted all the wealth, then ordered heavy tribute payments. That's how real tyrants act.

 

[cbrons]

Lincoln should never have allowed the southern states to rejoin the union. He should have raped and pillaged the women and then looted all the wealth, then ordered heavy tribute payments. That's how real tyrants act.

Ever heard of Sherman's seige of Atlanta? Plenty of civs violated by northern thugs there.

 

[RickyJ]

Lincoln should never have allowed the southern states to rejoin the union. He should have raped and pillaged the women and then looted all the wealth, then ordered heavy tribute payments. That's how real tyrants act.

Very good point. It shows that Lincoln's main objective was as he stated, the preservation of the union. He knew that the forces that were trying to divide America were hostile to both sides, and they did not want a strong unified America after Andrew Jackson killed the central bank. The division of the USA and provocation for the Civil War was mainly planned by those who did not even live in America.

Lincoln's history before he became president is inconsistent with a man that wanted war. He very much questioned whether or not the event that started the war between the USA and Mexico really happened or not as stated. It was one of this nation's first false flags actually and Lincoln was on the "truther" side instead of the warmongers' side.

 

[Aratus]

are any of y'all going to wait until Sally Field's movie "LINCOLN" is out in DVD format to look at it?
are you also going to wait for Bill Murray's new movie about FDR and his affair with his fifth cousin?

 

[Aratus]

thankfully i am fighting the urge to create a

Jefferson Davis: Tyrant thread in tandem with

this one and i just might create instead two

threads. i think the presidency of Mr. Davis did

suspend the Writ of Habeas Corpus also. Let

alone the lack of a free press in both the N + S

and the use of the draft to expand the armies...






Lets have an informal vote! Thread Number ONE!

James Buchanan: Totally Indecisive Blithering Idiot?

and now (((((drumrolls)))))) Thread Number TWO!!!

Andrew Johnson: Our Most CONTRARY Potus EVER?

I concede that the CSA felt they were responding to

Honest Abe's very close friends and political ambitions.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

Ever heard of Sherman's seige of Atlanta? Plenty of civs violated by northern thugs there.

That was just one portion of the South. A real tyrant like Tamerlane would have done what Sherman did to the ENTIRE South. And Tamerlane did not allow conquered provinces to vote. Sorry, Sherman does not measure up to a real tyrant.

 

[Aratus]

jefferson davis was never formally put on trial but he did have to endure an uncomfortable confinement.
from what i heard of the accounts, the andersonville prison was hell on earth. if there was a good reason
to put the head of the confederacy on trial, andersonville's slowly starved P.O.Ws heads the list, totally.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

That was just one portion of the South. A real tyrant like Tamerlane would have done what Sherman did to the ENTIRE South. And Tamerlane did not allow conquered provinces to vote. Sorry, Sherman does not measure up to a real tyrant.

So? Voting does not a free man make.

The American colonists were represented in British parliamnet, but still felt the need to secede.

 

[green73]

Nah, it would have happened way earlier due to technological advances. And there would be way less of racial disputes with it being gotten rid of peacefully. But since America's version of Hitler (Abe Lincoln) had his way, our country has suffered to the point of being a completely ruined despotism. He got to keep his power, and Yankee imperialism has now been spread all across the globe with tens of millions of people being murdered just like the southerners who only wished to peacefully secede were murdered. So remember that the next time that predator drone rains hellfire down on a child in Pakistan, people like you are the moral justification for such an act happening.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to sgt150 again.

 

[Aratus]

Lets have an informal vote! Thread Number ONE! ======> James Buchanan: Totally Indecisive Blithering Idiot?


and now (((((drumrolls)))))) Thread Number TWO!!! ======> Andrew Johnson: Our Most CONTRARY Potus EVER?

 

[green73]

are any of y'all going to wait until Sally Field's movie "LINCOLN" is out in DVD format to look at it?
are you also going to wait for Bill Murray's new movie about FDR and his affair with his fifth cousin?

I watched it online. It took me three attempts. The first two ended within five minutes. How I made it through the third is beyond me. It's intensely boring and full of lies.