A warning

[LibertyEagle]

Please be civil folks.

 

[malkusm]

this is getting rediculous... although the OP seemed agressive, he later apologized for that, and there are many people on these boards who support ron paul but don't agree with every position he has, it shouldn't matter WHICH of those positions they don't agree with, the fact of the matter is they are STILL RON PAUL SUPPORTERS which is why they are here... and although i vehemently disagree with his opinion on the matter i do not think its fair for someone to tell him to be on the McCain boards, when he has stated firmly that he would rather see us pulled out of Iraq immediately, rather than see Mcbama as prez.

+1

 

[hrdman2luv]

I have watched the "revolution" take several downward turns in the past several months....

Number one Iraq is NOT Vietnam....I am sick of Paul supporters focusing on Iraq...in the big scheme of things Iraq is not that big of deal...we are in Iraq and if any one believe we should pull out immediately you are not smart and need to keep your mouth shut so that the rest of the Paul Campaign does not look like a bunch of Vietnam protester wanna be's becuase thats what many people are coming.

Two, the level of hatred from many Paul supporters is disturbing....we hate bush...we hate McCain...we hate we hate....Democrats hate, liberals hate and it is very disturbing and disgusting to watch how much they hate things. There is NO reason for the increasing levels of hate...when this movement began there was no hate and there was no personal attacks...now some of the newer more vocal members are bringing this more and more into the mainstream of the Paul movement...it needs to stop...before this turns into a campaign run on hate, which will NEVER succeeded.

Three, to the conspiracy theorists....you may be right...there may be men in black listening to your every word and plotting a one world government...but SHUT UP!!!! you come off as quacks to 99.99% of the American public and when they hear you spewing your CFR theories they automatically tune you out, right or wrong, and thank well Ron Paul supporters are nuts I don't want to have anything to do with that. I have seen it numerous times! Again you may be right no reason to argue that, who cares it does not really matter....our focus needs to be to get Paul more support, not to spread seemingly far out conspiracy theories!

And Four, for the up coming convention, ACT WITH CLASS!!!!!!!!!! This can not be stressed enough, we don't need sit ins, we don't need violent protests, we don't need offensive slogans or hate filled slogans, we don't need any of that crap! Lets use our brains....lets focus on all of the good things Paul brings, smaller government, more personal freedom etc. Don't go constantly bashing McCain, focus on Paul. Don't focus on Iraq, don't focus on your latest theory on Bush and the CFR don't focus on hate! Don't focus on a revolution, though this is in a way a revolution, again the masses are scared and think Paul supporters are right wing nuts because they want a revolution....FOCUS ON WHAT PAUL CAN DO TO IMPROVE THIS COUNTRY NOT WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING TO BRING IT DOWN....

Finally a word of warning the rehash the first point because this is where things seem to be going more and more...this is not the 60s...Iraq is not Vietnam...the troops are not, and SHOULD NOT come home immediately, even Paul recognizes that....quit holding war protests and speaking as if this is Vietnam, it alienates some of our closest supporters.

Are you saying we should all just "apease" the onees we "Oppose?" I thought that was the main reason were all support Ron Paul.
Because Iraq is another Vietnam.
We do hate the way things are being run by the people who are running them.
The Federal Government listening and reading what we don on the phone and the internet is something that is not a "Conspiracy"

What we need to focus on is the revolution. What ever it takes to bring this government back to it's constitutional boundaries. What ever it takes.


BTW, have you bought your Ron Paul Cola's?
http://www.campaigncola.com/files/vote.php#allvotes

 

[constituent]

Wow, I am sorry that I do not agree 100% with Ron Paul; however, that does not make me a "troll".1) I do not agree that troops should be withdrawn immediately (due to the crisis in Iraq it could create), that is probably the only major difference we have....2) I am not a preacher...

1) So that makes it your place to come tell everyone else to STFU b/c you don't agree? Obnoxious.

2) You're right you're not a preacher, but you are an asshole.

 

[sunshine05]

I think your entire post is insulting, but for some reason this really bothered me the most:

"And Four, for the up coming convention, ACT WITH CLASS!!!!!!!!!! This can not be stressed enough, we don't need sit ins, we don't need violent protests, we don't need offensive slogans or hate filled slogans, we don't need any of that crap! Lets use our brains....lets focus on all of the good things Paul brings, smaller government, more personal freedom etc. Don't go constantly bashing McCain, focus on Paul. Don't focus on Iraq, don't focus on your latest theory on Bush and the CFR don't focus on hate! Don't focus on a revolution, though this is in a way a revolution, again the masses are scared and think Paul supporters are right wing nuts because they want a revolution....FOCUS ON WHAT PAUL CAN DO TO IMPROVE THIS COUNTRY NOT WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING TO BRING IT DOWN...."


Did you happen to go to the March? I did and was so proud to be with ALL the Ron Paul supporters that day. It was very peaceful. It is really rude for you to try to tell us how we need to act.

I think you are just here to stir things up.

 

[NH4RonPaul]

Agree, to some extent

I agree that when working on political campaigns one must always be polite and intelligent and civil. I don't think Ron Paul ever advocated anything else but that.

I agree that the 'fist' is not a good sign for people who want to save the Republic because it's associated with violence and communism even if you didn't live through the 60s.

I agree that Iraq is only one issue that could be cleared up if we removed from power the people who really run our country.

Trouble is, we never voted for the Federal Reserve or the CFR-controlled media, or the people who meet in secret to choose candidates and bless the ones they want and denigrate the ones who threaten to expose them.

It is no longer a conspiracy theory but a well-thought out consensus.

Check the list of media people -- they are all in the CFR. How do you think Z. Brzezinski's daughter, that blond airhead on with Joe Scarborough on MSNBC in the morning, got to be on TV so easily? Sure she likely attended Yale, I'm just guessing.

But if she had not had ZB for a father.. I wonder where she'd be now.

So, yes, mind your ps and qs, watch your behavior and language, but NEVER, NEVER NEVER, (did I say NEVER?) NEVER be afraid to discuss the FACTS.

By the way, a lot my Republican friends think you are all LEFT WING NUTS. So we have them confused because we don't fit into a box. We are not about right and left, we are about the Constitution. So this has them scared. But let's continue to frighten them with the facts, not our behavior.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Hillary & Obama’s Secret Bilderberg Meeting?
http://operationawakening.wordpress.com/2008/06/07/hillary-obamas-secret-bildeberg-meeting/

 

[glts]

Anyone that would write such an arrogant, dividing, insulting post must be a troll!

 

[mconder]

Number one Iraq is NOT Vietnam....I am sick of Paul supporters focusing on Iraq...in the big scheme of things Iraq is not that big of deal...we are in Iraq and if any one believe we should pull out immediately you are not smart and need to keep your mouth shut so that the rest of the Paul Campaign does not look like a bunch of Vietnam protester wanna be's becuase thats what many people are coming.

Come on, the jig is up...Are you Sean Hannity? Or, is there something irreparably wrong with your brain?!!! Ron Paul has made a speedy withdrawal from Irag his primary campaign issue and for you to sit here and try to malign those who have faithfully served Ron Paul and the Freedom movement is an insult to our intelligence. There is no way in hell I would let my son die for Bush & Company. My property, family or my right to self determination is the only reason I or my son would go to war and none of those things seems to be under immediate threat at the moment...well, with the exception of self determination. That though, isn't from any external threat. If there is any cause I would give my life for, it's removing all the criminals in this country from power, not fight a bunch of caveman thousands of miles from our shores. Will you do me a favor though? Please volunteer for service in Iraq so that some stop-lossed family man who has been without his family for the better part of five years can come home.

Damn Hannity Trolls...what do you do with them?

 

[moostraks]

Would you not be concerned that it would allow terrorists to gain control? Or that it would just set some other dictator up in the country that would then cause problems for the Iraq people? I mean that would be on our head if that happened. It seems like it would be very irresponsible of us to start this and then leave in the middle. I guess I am just asking what do you think would happen in Iraq if we did leave immediately...I really want to know, I am not trying to make a point or anything, I really have just never heard it explained....thanks....

Your beliefs assume that they (Iraqis) are better off with us there and that we are indeed safer because we act like the bully on the school playground and people fear us so they will respect us (rarely does that tactic work). We are raising a new generation of terrorists due to our failure to respect others and rise above the violent behaviour of those who cannot use their intelligence to solve a problem. You need to read some Iraqi blogs to see that many intelligent individuals are tired of our occupation of their country. However well intentioned your beliefs may be they are misguided.

What is the solution for your exit strategy? At what point will it be honorable for us to leave? How far shall our military be depleted due to loss of moral and p.t.s.d. from a never ending war? How much more burden should the tax payers be beholden for in the light of our current financial state? How many bridges should we rebuild to blow up? How many barracks and mega military complexes should be built at tax payer expense to protect(occupy) a foreign country? What level of foreign occupation is necessary to protect our borders at home from a philosophy? What nationality are terrorists? Where does the line get drawn at battling a philosophy that knows no borders? When will we stop being a nation ruled by fear?

As a citizen who disagrees with an illegal war and an administration that continues to neglect the will of the people it represents it is our right to protest that which we oppose in a peaceable, respectable manner.

 

[mconder]

Two, the level of hatred from many Paul supporters is disturbing....we hate bush...we hate McCain...we hate we hate....Democrats hate, liberals hate

Yes...we hate them. I hate all people who are out to steal from me and control my every thought and action. I am a bad person.

 

[mconder]

Three, to the conspiracy theorists....you may be right...there may be men in black listening to your every word and plotting a one world government...but SHUT UP!!!!

Disagree. The fact that you say we may be right and then say "but SHUT UP!!!," seems totally illogical. If you believed that our government was completely under the control of people who are willingly subverting every single principle outlined in The Constitution, that's what you'd do? SHUT UP? I don't think we've been bold enough.

 

[mconder]

And Four, for the up coming convention, ACT WITH CLASS!!!!!!!!!! This can not be stressed enough, we don't need sit ins, we don't need violent protests, we don't need offensive slogans or hate filled slogans, we don't need any of that crap! Lets use our brains....lets focus on all of the good things Paul brings, smaller government, more personal freedom etc. Don't go constantly bashing McCain, focus on Paul. Don't focus on Iraq, don't focus on your latest theory on Bush and the CFR don't focus on hate! Don't focus on a revolution, though this is in a way a revolution, again the masses are scared and think Paul supporters are right wing nuts because they want a revolution....FOCUS ON WHAT PAUL CAN DO TO IMPROVE THIS COUNTRY NOT WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING TO BRING IT DOWN....

Move along people. That's right. Step right over here into the free speech zone (cage). This is as much for your protection as the people holding the event. Thank you for your compliance.

 

[mediahasyou]

"This is a peaceful revolution." Ron Paul

 

[Elle]

I would like to know your opinion though rockandrollssouls on how an immediate withdrawal would work if hypothetically Paul became president. Would you not be concerned that it would allow terrorists to gain control? Or that it would just set some other dictator up in the country that would then cause problems for the Iraq people? I mean that would be on our head if that happened. It seems like it would be very irresponsible of us to start this and then leave in the middle. I guess I am just asking what do you think would happen in Iraq if we did leave immediately...I really want to know, I am not trying to make a point or anything, I really have just never heard it explained....thanks....

Pretend you live in some place that has gangs like in the movies. Gangs have turf wars and they do drive-by's and things of that sort thing. In Iraq and other parts of the middle east they have suicide bombers.


Let's pretend some other country decides to invade the US to help proctect us from the gangs. How would you feel? Do you think that most people would feel the same way as you do regardless of their belief system?

I'm pretty sure you would be pissed if the invading country started dropping bombs and invading your neighborhood. Rival gangs would be on the same team now. Do you think if after years of this destruction and death if the invading country just packed up and went home things wouldn't get better? How in the hell can they be any worse? Seriously. To the Iraqi people, we ARE the terrorists.

 

[hope7134]

utrunner07

We've been quiet too long, that's how we got into this mess. Now, we need to shout this stuff at the top of our lungs and throw in a big "WAKE THE HECK UP AMERICA!" If people are offended by the truth, then they are content to live in tyranny. I've been politically correct enough. No more!!!! If someone wants me to be politically correct, it's because they don't want the truth to get out or they are not bright enough to know the importance of the truth to themselves and their country. Speak the truth, yell it at the top of your lungs, wake this country up, before we no longer have a country, because we tried to be politically correct. I'd rather have a country, then continue riding this train to hell being silent, for fear of offending.

I might suggest you go back and watch some Ron Paul videos or read his book or some of his writings.

About item one of your original comment, you should probably go talk to some Iraqi war vets and see if they want us to shut up!!!!
Are you kidding me? Here's a video for you. Maybe you should go rent the movie "Stop Loss" or do a google search and find out about the increase in military suicides in 2008, because of the multiple tours in Iraq. Then come back to this site and tell all the patriots on this site that they should not cry with the loudest voices possible " bring our troops home and bring them home now".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiFsxp5qOpM

Our maybe you'd like for me to tell my grandchildren that I need corrupt politicians and world leaders were stealing their country and their futures and all I did was sit down and shut up and did nothing to expose that corruption.

I'm a patriot, I love this country and I'm in a revolution. But, my enemies are not setting down and shutting up and I can't afford to not take action. My country, my family, my friends and my future depends on me. So please take your political correctness back to whoever taught you such foolishness and tell them, no more!

 

[eOs]

Epic fail utrunner, I skimmed through your posts as well, nothing but "matter of fact" "I'm right you're wrong" bullshit.

 

[Jamsie 567]

Epic fail utrunner, I skimmed through your posts as well, nothing but "matter of fact" "I'm right you're wrong" bullshit.

I couldn't resist sorry UT...

+1 EOS

 

[ronpaulblogsdotcom]

Sorry dude - the group of love is the McCain election group. Paul backers have always been the haters. Way back since Iowa vote. The people that voted for us hate Bush. I looked at all the exit polling data for Iowa and New Hampshire and we were getting the hate vote. That is why I started blogging more about the things I hate. Plus it is easier.

But I never go off into the fringe arguments. I stay with invasion of privacy, monetary policy, and the war.

The war really is the number one thing with me. And the American people should understand now not to dismiss war critics. Gulf of Tonkin staged. Pearl Harbor encouraged and known about.

And how exactly do you spread the love? With your hundred posts? Do you go door to door?

 

[nbhadja]

utrunner07 , you are dead wrong. Paul would pull out of Iraq in a heart beat if president, he has said this himself several times.

And you obviously have no clue about what Ron Paul says about the theory of blowback and how terrorists attack us because we OCCUPY THEIR LANDS!!!! Oh and it costs us 400 million dollars plus a day to stay in Iraq. So how does leaving Iraq immediately hurt us again?