A victory for intellectual property rights?

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Gaius1981

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A great victory for intellectual property rights may be achieved in the very near future, with the implementation of this new and innovative technology, which identifies and penalizes those who partake in illegal piracy through the use of torrents.

MARC helps copyright holders end piracy by identifying both the pirates who are illegally “seeding” the copyrighted material as well as the “fans” of the copyrighted material who are illegally downloading the files. Nexicon’s collection products (GetAmnesty and DigitalRanger) leverage the MARC platform to collect settlement fees from the downloaders, and help investigate and enforce copyright laws that support content owners.
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Read more about it here: http://www.nexiconinc.com/learn-about-marc-technology.shtml

If this technology is approved and implemented, it will be a huge victory for the producers! It will put an end to the parasites who blatantly refuse to pay for themselves.
 
Gaius1981 said:
Libertarians don't recognize a man's right to the product of his own mind? So much for Atlas Shrugged.
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No, they don't recognize the ability of the government to enforce fantasies.

If I can come to your house and take something from you, great. Otherwise if you put it out there for others to copy, it's free domain. Nobody has "stolen" anything.
 
dannno said:
No, they don't recognize the ability of the government to enforce fantasies.

If I can come to your house and take something from you, great. Otherwise if you put it out there for others to copy, it's free domain. Nobody has "stolen" anything.
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In other words, you advocate parasitism on the minds of the creators of movies, tv-series, music, games and software applications. You claim that they have no right to profit from their creations. Without supporting intellectual property rights, you're at best advocating a mongrel form of capitalism.
 
Here is an old post of mine

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=147602

This is actually one place the Const. is wrong.
It is not rights that get granted; it is a privledge.
With no laws IP laws wouldn't exist.
Speech rights, and all rights, would.

I like the words "Intellectual so-called rights" or ISCP
I also like copyprivledge insteda of copyright.
 
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Copyright is a power granted to Congress in the Constitution. And I do think it is needed, but I don't think it is setup the way it should be. Special interests and the large media conglomerates keep buying legislation to extend copyright terms to "infinity-1" and to increase fines and the government enforcement. The problem is that in the digital information age there is no way to "enforce" copyrights without turning the nation into a police state; which would be just find with the media cartels.


See an alternative to copyright:
www.creativecommons.org
 
Matt Collins said:
Copyright is a power granted to Congress in the Constitution. And I do think it is needed, but I don't think it is setup the way it should be. Special interests and the large media conglomerates keep buying legislation to extend copyright terms to "infinity-1" and to increase fines and the government enforcement. The problem is that in the digital information age there is no way to "enforce" copyrights without turning the nation into a police state; which would be just find with the media cartels.


See an alternative to copyright:
www.creativecommons.org
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+1

Another problem with copyright law practice is that an artist will often be forced to surrender at least partial rights to his work when negotiating with a publisher. In incidences like this, copyright can be used as a weapon against the creator-forcing him to remain in unfair contracts. I still like the concept of copyright/patent, there just needs to be a free market solution to enforcement. :) (JMO, speaking as an artist/composer)
 
I think that IP rights have their place but I also think that allot of company's are using it as a excuse to not innovate the delivery method of their products.

Software for one, Open Source company's are making allot of money right now and they give it away for free, they offer support for money and this model has been working for them.

A FEW bands have seen that the real thief in the music industry is the labels, a few bands have given the music away for free and see them selfs making money off of touring for shows.

I think that the government is allowing a failing industry to prop its self up with laws. If you can't compete then you should fail and make room for others.

Now mind you I DO have a different feeling about physical objects that are developed by an individual/company but even there the laws are to vague and open for interpretation.
 
slothman said:
No you are inncorrect.
Copyright is a privledge granted to Congress.
Congress doesn't have to allow CR's at all.
The Const. only allows it to.
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No it's a power. But it does not have to be enacted. Congress could abolish it tomorrow if they wanted to.
 
If you downloaded a CD and mailed the artist $5 they'd say thanks. I support the artists, not the labels. Suing little girls and old ladies for thousands of dollars per song does not make me want to patronize their failed business model.
 
TastyWheat said:
If you downloaded a CD and mailed the artist $5 they'd say thanks. I support the artists, not the labels. Suing little girls and old ladies for thousands of dollars per song does not make me want to patronize their failed business model.
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So could you morally justify stealing from stores and then mailing the individual workers money?
 
dannno said:
No, they don't recognize the ability of the government to enforce fantasies.

If I can come to your house and take something from you, great. Otherwise if you put it out there for others to copy, it's free domain. Nobody has "stolen" anything.
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What if you DO NOT "put it out there"? That someone else takes it upon themselves to do so?
 
Gaius1981 said:
A great victory for intellectual property rights may be achieved in the very near future, with the implementation of this new and innovative technology, which identifies and penalizes those who partake in illegal piracy through the use of torrents.



Read more about it here: http://www.nexiconinc.com/learn-about-marc-technology.shtml

If this technology is approved and implemented, it will be a huge victory for the producers! It will put an end to the parasites who blatantly refuse to pay for themselves.
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It's impossible to prevent file sharing on the internet, period. The internet is designed to do one thing and do it well, transmit zero's and one's from point A to point b (c d and e too!).

Well every song, book, game, and movie ever made can be turned into 0's and 1's and sent anywhere. I'd be willing to bet that torrent file sharing makes up a nice % of total data transmission on the net.

Big media needs to learn to adapt or disappear. With the net and how easy it is to get access to music right from bands without the middlemen, they really are fighting to keep themselves inserted in a market where their purpose (distribution) is disappearing.

And just like every other big corporation, they go right to the government to circumvent the market and get what they want by force.
Good riddance to bad rubbish I say.

And just a final FYI, I actually buy more PC games now than before torrents. It's risky to buy a game without ever playing it before, 40-50 bucks in the toilet if it sucks. Now I always know exactly what game I want to get.

I just picked up Supreme Commander gold from walmart today after demoing it over the weekend.
 
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