A Store Without a Checkout Counter? JCPenney Presses on with Retail Revolution

I asked "What question?" because your post didn't have a question in it, even though you asked me "Why not just answer the question?"

Then you retort that simple question with "So that must mean living conditions are equally as good in both countries?"

No, I never said that. I simply asked what question you posed since the post in which you told me to answer the question didn't contain a question.

so now that I gave you the questions, can you answer them or admit you don't know?

Thanks for answering the first one.

You admit China and US are not equal in living conditions. Does pointing out this fact mean I "don't believe in free markets"?

Can you answer the rest, and see if we differ, before you accuse me of "not believing in free market"?
 
We are on absolute opposite poles on this but probably shop with a similar attitude in many respects. I don't want to spend all day trying things on and getting false compliments. I generally know what I am looking for and want to price check or get it and leave. However, I do not want to have a thumb scan or have my wallet scanned for my debit card to pay purchases. If I need a restroom or to ask a question on an item I don't want a kiosk with an FAQ section. Different strokes for different folks, except your way will be pushed because the goal is control- a cashless system is a system that will guarantee a better return for those in power and the larger retailers. I hope I die before this is widely popular.(knock on wood...)

Bingo! We have a winner! Well said. +rep
 
Yeah... because I don't want to talk to "customer service" people at the mall. Oooookay. I'm sure you know ALL about me! I worked customer service as well, and frankly the creepy people that wanted to talk to me all day were the ones I liked least. If you like to consider yourself the height of social charity because you talk to some roving customer service person in a department store (keeping them from doing their other jobs), more power to ya. :)

That's the problem. You treat all customer service people as if they're just nuisances and not someone you want to waste your time on. What if you saw them as actual people and weren't so cynical about meeting new people? Oh, I forgot, customer service reps aren't real people and don't deserve the light of day. I don't talk to people all day. The point is that I don't mind the warmth of talking to a person even if it means a little less convenience. Being surrounded by machines makes me miss the compassion of some random stranger, and I don't get all hot-headed if there is a little miscommunication because at least I know I'm talking to something that can feel.
 
As I said earlier, technology can be a good thing as long as it stays in the right hands. It concerns me when I see too many people depending upon the technology for their everyday lives. Kindle/Nook/E-Book, I can see this technology becoming the modern-day book burning at some point. Guess I am old fashioned in that way, I like to have tangible things to reference, rather than turning on a electronic device to search for something that may have been arbitrarily scrubbed because the owners of the Kindle/Nook/E-Book decided that it was not in my best interest to have.

totally agree with you here....
 
Ahhhh, I believe in a free market of which we do not have. Technology is a wonderful thing so long as it stays in the right hands.

And whose hands are "the right hands"? Are you the decider? or do you just hate lefthanded people? :)
 
That's the problem. You treat all customer service people as if they're just nuisances and not someone you want to waste your time on. What if you saw them as actual people and weren't so cynical about meeting new people? Oh, I forgot, customer service reps aren't real people and don't deserve the light of day. I don't talk to people all day. The point is that I don't mind the warmth of talking to a person even if it means a little less convenience. Being surrounded by machines makes me miss the compassion of some random stranger, and I don't get all hot-headed if there is a little miscommunication because at least I know I'm talking to something that can feel.

I have a bank that a drive an extra 20+ minutes to because I have been treated with respect as a valuable customer. The trip to my bank is a total of 45+ minutes from my house. The human factor of that branch makes it worth my time, aggravation, and loyalty. I could get a bank account just a few blocks from my home right now but choose not to. Life should be more than just about convenience.
 
It concerns me when I see kids growing up not knowing how to camp and hunt.

We agree on something. Some people would rather do away with such inconveniences as having to learn how to live in nature and replace it with all the creature comforts their hearts could desire, surrounded by little gadgets. I do feel old fashioned saying this, but that's really how I feel.

For reference, this is the type of thing that concerns me:

 
so now that I gave you the questions, can you answer them or admit you don't know?

Thanks for answering the first one.

You admit China and US are not equal in living conditions. Does pointing out this fact mean I "don't believe in free markets"?

Can you answer the rest, and see if we differ, before you accuse me of "not believing in free market"?

I never said I would play 20 questions with you. I wasn't even arguing with you about that, but you seem to think I am obligated to answer your questions anyway.
 
I have a bank that a drive an extra 20+ minutes to because I have been treated with respect as a valuable customer. The trip to my bank is a total of 45+ minutes from my house. The human factor of that branch makes it worth my time, aggravation, and loyalty. I could get a bank account just a few blocks from my home right now but choose not to. Life should be more than just about convenience.

Exactly.

 
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I have a bank that a drive an extra 20+ minutes to because I have been treated with respect as a valuable customer. The trip to my bank is a total of 45+ minutes from my house. The human factor of that branch makes it worth my time, aggravation, and loyalty. I could get a bank account just a few blocks from my home right now but choose not to. Life should be more than just about convenience.

Another well said point. My bank is an hour from my house, it is a small credit union. I too, can transfer, if I wanted, to a bank in my town. Actually there are three major banks in my small town. I want no part of those, too big to fail, banks anyway.
 
Suit yourself. I guess we're just two different types of people.



I already knew that, but I'm not sure we're entirely disagreeing here. I'm just saying that people in retail should be paid to provide a valuable service, not just idle conversation. I do like talking to them when they enjoy their job and are familiar with the product they're selling. I'm not a xenophobe just because I expect the conversation to surround the only thing I know for sure we have in common.
 
I already knew that, but I'm not sure we're entirely disagreeing here. I'm just saying that people in retail should be paid to provide a valuable service, not just idle conversation. I do like talking to them when they enjoy their job and are familiar with the product they're selling. I'm not a xenophobe just because I expect the conversation to surround the only thing I know for sure we have in common.

Maybe you're right. I never expected customer service reps to provide us with idle conversation. They're supposed to do their job. It's more about the nobility of being human and having to relate with other people rather than having all the answers provided to you in some ready-made database that doesn't require any thinking or social skills.
 
I never said I would play 20 questions with you. I wasn't even arguing with you about that, but you seem to think I am obligated to answer your questions anyway.

You ask me "Why are you here if you don't believe in free market" without basis, and I wanted to know what you believe. So yes, if you are going to say I don't believe in free market, you are obligated to tell me what you believe.
 
Maybe you're right. I never expected customer service reps to provide us with idle conversation. They're supposed to do their job. It's more about the nobility of being human and having to relate with other people rather than having all the answers provided to you in some ready-made database that doesn't require any thinking or social skills.

:rolleyes: Their job?! You're just reducing them to some mundane representative! You've been waxing poetic and talking about how I should see them as people, but I don't treat random people I meet for the first time as if they should provide me info on something.

I keep talking about the last question you had answered at a department store by a human being that they absolutely knew the answer to. Is there one? I go to make my purchase and leave. I don't generally need questions answered about jeans or socks or tee shirts, other than how much they cost, or perhaps something on the label. If I held up a blouse to a wandering associate, and asked if it needed ironing, you do realize they would most likely refer to the label? If I want to know the price, they will do a price check at a register --- that mirrors the little "price check" scanners at many mainstream stores. That is what I mean by not caring about the in-store "customer service" angle of this article, about this store.

Banks? You should have oodles of questions for any financial institution. That is where service comes into play, just as I talked about with food. The difference here is that it's highly unlikely you are going to find a clothing expert in JCP's clothing section. You absolutely should demand an expert at a bank, and people who actually know where your food comes from are invaluable at small farm stands and markets. Of course, maybe you don't want that; that's why the option should exist either way.

Making the jump from my not having any questions an associate/rep/whatever can help me with when I go shopping, to accusations that I don't see customer service reps as people, is an astouding contortion.

As for the camping, it is an example of something you do that requires quite a bit of time. If I'm still navigating the local department store patiently listening to every employee tell me things I already know about products I do not want, I'm not spending time camping. I'm spending time at the mall. "Convenience" means you have time for other things; it's up to the individual to decide the costs.
 
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