A soldiers plea!

[airborne373]

PatriotOne

I am used to military discriminators like you. The only fake on this thread is you.

I have been a major player in our meetup. Email the organizers in our meetup and ask them. http://ronpaul.meetup.com/90/


I guess the Ron Paul videos on my YouTube channel are fake, huh?
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=airborne373

I guess the Customs Declarations and the postal employees are fake?

http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops


Of course you are not interested in the truth are you? You would rather leave your troll droppings. And be and do nothing. Are you even a real Ron Paul supporter? And making thousands of posts on this forum does not make you a real supporter by the way. You actually have to get out and do something.

Do you have any videos of your Ron Paul events you have organized and participated in?

What is the link to your meetup?

The only fake is you. What a sham that you use Patriot in you username.

 

[steph3n]

I am used to military discriminators like you. The only fake on this thread is you.

I have been a major player in our meetup. Email the organizers in our meetup and ask them. http://ronpaul.meetup.com/90/


I guess the Ron Paul videos on my YouTube channel are fake, huh?
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=airborne373

I guess the Customs Declarations and the postal employees are fake?

http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops


Of course you are not interested in the truth are you? You would rather leave your troll droppings. And be and do nothing. Are you even a real Ron Paul supporter? And making thousands of posts on this forum does not make you a real supporter by the way. You actually have to get out and do something.

Do you have any videos of your Ron Paul events you have organized and participated in?

What is the link to your meetup?

The only fake is you. What a sham that you use Patriot in you username.

Some here can be brutal, don't let them get to you

 

[tjasond]

Just sent my 10 bucks. Good luck and thanks for your service to our country.

 

[airborne373]

I just sent Doug Hostetler an email saying:

A person using your name (and identifying himself as a realtor in Indianapolis) is asking for money on a forum to send care packages to the troops in Iraq. I suspect this is a scam but am asking for your verification. Here is the post that you can read to see the forum thread he has started asking for money:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=42253

Please confirm if this is you. I would appreciate it since some people seem to be sending him money under what I suspect is a ruse.

Thank you.


If this is really you, I suggest you email me back to confirm

http://www.auctionzip.com/IN-Auctioneers/11092.html

[email protected]

Got your email, Junior detective.

 

[CurtisLow]

-/////////-

 

[Revolution9]

$25 sent... thanks for doing this.

and to Revolution9... ask yourself this - would Ron Paul think spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to RENT a floating bag of hot air with his name on it to be financially a good investment? Somehow i don't think its something he would have chose to spend his(OUR) money on... I find the entire concept wholly arrogant and conceited - we could be spending that money sending packages like these to our soldiers, not flexing our fundraising prowess in the most outrageous ways possible. I'd personally rather have the soldier's support and vote than a bunch of ignorant college kids watching bowl games (who more than likely wont care enough to vote anyways). Oh well. Thats why i sent my $$ here To each his own. "The free market will decide."

Do what you want. Knock others and attempting to heap scorn or to discredit while you do yours, portrayed as the holy mission of perfection in your agaitating and you may expect people to see that as hypocritical or smarmy. I am all for this effort by this gentleman, but I am not for knocking another efforts down to prop myself up. And the hypothetical "would Ron Paul" scenario is a canard.

Best Regards
Randy

 

[airborne373]

To CurtisLow & PatriotOne

To CurtisLow & PatriotOne

Both of you have done your best to sabotage an effort to help those who have made the greatest of sacrifices to serve their nation. You both have been more than happy to spend your time trying to make others believe this effort is a fraud. And you both have failed miserably. Why? Because I and the donors of this project are authentic and are selflessly doing something of real consequence.

Neither of you can do anything to hurt me. But you most likely have caused potential donors to have second thoughts. So you both have succeeded in one thing: The paratroopers fighting and dying in Iraq will get less material support from home, congratulations.

In a way I am not as upset with"PatriotOne" because at least [Admin - name removed] had the courage to call me and this effort an outright fraud. Wrong as [Admin - name removed] is there is a directness I can respect somewhat.

However CurtisLow you used a smear tactic that would make Rudy Guiliani and the MSM proud. And your claim "I just wanted to send it myself" is weak. If you want to send the troops care packages there is no one stopping you. I have been doing so without anyones consent for sometime. Including to service members I do not even know, who made contact with me through the internet. You are free to start your own fund raiser for the troops also.

You both can continue your malicious and vial attacks if you must. I will not be wasting anymore valuable time with either one of you.

To all of the generous donors please keep watching the "Ron Paul Supports the Troops" Chip In Page and my YouTube channel as there will be some exciting and fun updates, videos and pictures of our good cause. I know how grateful all of the men of the 3/73 will be to get these items your donations have purchased. One 25lbs package went out this morning. Check the Chip In Page for more details.

Chip In Page:

http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops

My YT channel: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=airborne373

 

[Santana28]

Do what you want. Knock others and attempting to heap scorn or to discredit while you do yours, portrayed as the holy mission of perfection in your agaitating and you may expect people to see that as hypocritical or smarmy. I am all for this effort by this gentleman, but I am not for knocking another efforts down to prop myself up. And the hypothetical "would Ron Paul" scenario is a canard.

Best Regards
Randy

Randy....huh? I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm not knocking you or anyone, and i certainly am not trying to "prop myself up." And i'm certainly not afraid to voice my opinion, or be attacked for it.

I've kept quiet until now my opposition to the blimp thing because i really don't believe negativity helps anything in the grand scheme of things. What i said basically was that while i think supporting the troops directly is a better use of funds than renting a blimp, the free market of these forums is the ultimate "decider" here and people will fund whatever they think is best. I think asking what Ron Paul would do is a very valid question - i'm not trying to guilt you or anyone else for having a different opinion. Often people jump at every cool idea without first taking all things into consideration. I personally think he'd choose to spend the money in other ways (for example, you dont see the campaign going out and renting a fleet of blimps of their own), but thats just my personal opinion. Despite that, a very important point remains - whatever it is we do should not be about purely flexing our communal fundraising muscles. What we do should be about effective vote-getting - thats it. I am of the opinion that we can gain votes in a more efficient and less costly fashion. And i think that if we can do it while simultaneously making someone's life better - even more valuable. Just because you CAN do something, doesn't always mean you should... and that applies to everything, not just giant bags of helium floating in the sky.

I'm done being off-topic in this thread now. Randy, PM if you wish to continue and i'll be happy to talk to you about it.

oh yeah, and.... BUMP for importance!

 

[troyd1]

and to Revolution9... ask yourself this - would Ron Paul think spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to RENT a floating bag of hot air with his name on it to be financially a good investment?

I think Ron would be happy for the sblimp support as he would be happy we are supporting troops through this chipin. Would he choose to do this with his own money? Maybe not, but a lot of people are maxed donors and believe this may work. I unfortunately am only in half that camp.

 

[PatriotOne]

Got your email, Junior detective.

Please respond to my email if you recieved it. My email address and name is public info so unless I get a response, this doesn't mean anything to me. So far I haven't gotten the reply I requested.

 

[mavtek]

bump

 

[airborne373]

What's Your Pledge, PatriotOne

Please respond to my email if you recieved it. My email address and name is public info so unless I get a response, this doesn't mean anything to me. So far I haven't gotten the reply I requested.

Before I waste more of my time on you, how much will you pledge to give to,

Ron Paul Supports our Troops:

http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops

You make a pledge here on the forum of at least $50.00 and I will email you back. Put you money where your mouth is.

Update to this post:

I have posted PatriotOne's email address because of his challenges to my identity and authenticity. However someone by the name of Brian keeps removing the address. Saying personal info is the reason. Since it is PatriotOne who is making this challenge I do not see why I cannot post his email address on this thread as proof he is the wrong about everything he says.

 

[Bryan]

Hello everyone, I understand this is controversial and that is fine, lets just keep it civil. I maintain neutrality in such matters but do encourage everyone to use their best judgment and will note these two elements in the forum guidelines:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=22

+ No posting of others personal contact information.

+ Care should be used when soliciting money for some effort to support the campaign as it is totally possible that a scam artist will be looking to take advantage of the good nature of Ron Paul supporters. If you're going to do anything that will solicit taking money you'd be wise to make sure you have some established credibility within the community that matches what you expect. If you don't have that, try to set up some arrangements with a third party that does that so people send money to the trusted third party who make sure it goes where intended.


Thanks everyone.

 

[steph3n]

I think this is a great cause and wanting to bump it up a bit

I haven't gotten my paycheck deposited yet so it will probably be monday.

 

[tjasond]

Hi airborne,

I have no idea why you've been under such scrutiny around here. I've donated a bit already but will gladly donate more if you can confirm that Ron Paul materials are being sent along with the aid. Again, thank you for your service to this country and the work that you are currently doing. I don't think many folks realize that money is but a small part of the effort; you're the one that has to buy things with that money, pack them up, and ship them off - all of which takes time that is not being compensated for. In my opinion, you've been more than forthcoming with respect to your intentions and actions, especially through the pictures that you've taken which document your efforts. Thanks and keep up the good work.

 

[JenHarris]

In for 100.00 Thanks for what you're doing.

 

[airborne373]

Thank You

steph3n, tjasond, JenHarris, and every one else who supports this effort,

I can't thank you all enough for your kind words and donations. These monies are going to work to send care packages to our valiant men in Iraq right away. There will be additional pictures and information forthcoming. Please "stay tuned" as they say.

There may be some surprises right here on ronpaulforums so be sure to check back.

Tjason - you are correct it does take quite a bit of time and effort to get these items together and shipped. Thank you for recognizing this fact, your appreciation and recognition is "my reward."

http://ronpaulsupportsourtroops.chipin.com/ron-paul-supports-our-troops

Please remember the 3rd Squadron, 73 Cavalry 82ND Airborne has 300 men who are going to be very touched about the material support they are receiving from each of you. Don't be surprised if you become part of the lore of the 3/73. In fact it would probably be a good idea to share with you throughout this project the heritage of this elite unit. I will work on that.

Douglas

 

[nist7]

And a letter explaining that the money is coming from RP supporters. This is a three fold effort.

1.) MOST IMPORTANT- To genuinely help these troopers.

2.) Introduce Ron Paul

3.) Create media about this project.

Great work!

Words cannot describe the amount of appreciation that we have for brave men like you who are willing to sacrafice their lives so that we may live in peace and freedom. ....which is why we are also supporting Ron Paul....who will never faulter in his steadfast support for our brave military so that liberty and peace is kept at home!

 

[libertarian4321]

Its unfortunate that it costs so much to ship stuff to soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan.

I used to send packages too, with stuff I gathered from co-workers. The postage cost almost as much as the stuff inside. You'd think the military would ship this stuff for free or a nominal charge (its not like they have a shortage of money, we spend more on the military than the rest of the world combined).

If you are sending to soldiers who have an AAFES PX/BX somewhere nearby, and you have a trustworthy POC there, its easier to send gift certificates and have him buy the stuff (thats what I did after becoming frustrated with the postage).

 

[steph3n]

Its unfortunate that it costs so much to ship stuff to soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan.

I used to send packages too, with stuff I gathered from co-workers. The postage cost almost as much as the stuff inside. You'd think the military would ship this stuff for free or a nominal charge (its not like they have a shortage of money, we spend more on the military than the rest of the world combined).

If you are sending to soldiers who have an AAFES PX/BX somewhere nearby, and you have a trustworthy POC there, its easier to send gift certificates and have him buy the stuff (thats what I did after becoming frustrated with the postage).

pardon my ignorance, but what kind of gift certificate can work, like one for the field commisary(store), also will phone cards do any good or would we have to buy special iraq to us caling cards?