A response from Frank Luntz. PLEASE take note

[paulitics]

people in this movement act exactly like "agent provocateurs" whose job is to radicalize it, therefore discrediting the movement, creating rifts, and infighting. Its so stupid that it is beyond comprehension that people put up with this as some badge of patriotism to act like punks. Some of you are doing exactly what the enemy wants you to do. They do not want an intelligent, cohesive group of people that can beat them. They want loud obnoxious, fringe wackos to completely overshadow the legitamacy of everyone else that wants to win a smarter way.

This is not about who's right and wrong. We all know who the scumbags are, they are the ones wanting to strike IRAN and the propagandists that do their dirty work. This is about strategy, and the idiotic things a few do to set back the movement. If you don't understand, read up on cointelpro. Google it. Stop doing their job for them.

 

[RonPauledbyYoutube]

People, why is it that every time were spoken to softly by one of these pundits, we fall into their bed like a virgin promised marriage. We've seen too much to even consider honesty in these people. Although Luntz is correct when he says that we should be civil, his "promise" to make it fair is a bunch of BS. His psycological word games are hollow. Expect more attacks.

I say let's keep up the fight against all of these morons, They were the ones who declared the war, our response is merely blowback.

 

[Marc3579]

All that's being asked about is remember when you speak for the campaign you're affecting how he views us. The golden rule should apply whenever dealing with any media person, be it on Hannity's radio show, Levin's, or a television personality. Their words do have power please don't cause them to use those words against us.

 

[Jodi]

Well having never threatened him in any way,
and having seen him speak of his lying manipulations on several videos,
I will believe it when I see it.
Even then I will be expecting a knife in the back.

Agreed!!! He can't be trusted at all.

 

[Jodi]

Their is nothing wrong with peacefully protesting News reporters that actively try to screw over our candidate. "Fox News Sucks" is not offensive language. Throwing of objects or threatening of bodily harm is always discouraged. Selling of News Corp stock ticker symbol(NWS) is always encouraged and not tuning into the Fox news channel is always encouraged as a peaceful way to protest Fox for their bad behavior.

Frank Luntz has a long way to go before we let up on spreading the word of how bad he is. He is concerned about the level of hatred directed toward him by the millions of Ron Paul supporters, and should be. He brought it upon himself and we are responding by turning his reputation into mud. Keep it up Frank and we will to.

Excellent!!

 

[snaFU]

Lol, I agree with Luntz about how improper that mob group was when they confronted Hannity. However this guy is a scumbag and he fixes groups to mold public opinion. However our conduct should change regardless. Of course many of you loons won't change your rowdy behavior.

 

[LiberalDemForRP]

I absolutely, wholeheartedly agree 100% with the OP. The actions of a few have sucessfully tainted the reputation of many. I was appalled at the Hannity vid, as well as the vitriol spewed around here towards not only Luntz, but anyone that disagrees with our views.

From anger comes only anger. Peaceful opposition is what Dr. Paul would want--not violence, intimidation and threats. Let's keep it above the belt, and fight with the truth.

 

[Jodi]

Found this you tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HJaxDt0EbY

 

[pcosmar]

You all would be wise to remember that TPTB do not care whether an "R" or a "D" gets elected. The whole thing is a game to them, Theater for the masses.
They want to make you believe that you have a "choice".
Frank Luntz has stated that Hillery WILL be the next President, while he appears to be working for the GOP/Fox.
Ron Paul is the wrench in their machine.
Don't forget that the bit players are just that.

 

[NYgs23]

Whatever you think of Frank Luntz personally, can't you guys think of this pragmatically? Attacking the media in this way JUST DOESN'T WORK. Just like an aggressive foriegn policy fails whether we like it or not, so does an aggressive PR strategy.

This doesn't mean we have to be passive, but we shouldn't be aggressive. We should be ASSERTIVE! "Speak softly and carry a big stick."

 

[Soccrmastr]

I like that Luntz has been responding quite a bit to people.

 

[VicVixvi]

I don't trust Frank Luntz, or any other MSM outlet. BUT, we should be treating ALL people with respect.

Just because I disagree with Frank Luntz philosophically, and politically, doesn't mean I should DIS-Respect him.

+ONE

Treat each of them the way you would if Dr. Paul was standing beside you.

 

[Dlynne]

Look, I have done my share of the "FU Frank"s and had some fun in it, but it has to stop. Not just because of this response, but because it just has to. I don't expect a lot to change in the MSM, but I will expect my behavior to change.

.....flame away...

No flames here. I say, Way To Go! I am really proud of you and agree with your conclusions.

Now, let's work to get Paul to change his attitude so that he hires some top notch campaign guerillas to win this nomination.

 

[Paulbot_9876]

i think he is scared for his life is the only reason his tone has changed.......i am still going to say fu!@ you frank till i see evidence of what he says..... so,fu!@ you frank.....earn our respect.....

 

[Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice]

If you want to piss of a sociopath, ignore them or show no emotion.
They'll say and do ANYTHING to suck your energy/emotions to get what they want.

This guy revels in being a puppet-master of the easily influenced.
He doesn't even deserve our attention.

 

[cmc]

I agree with the original poster 100%!

At the Virginia Straw Poll in December, there were a (very) few hecklers in the back that made the rest of us look terrible. I was really embarrassed and was among many who gave them dirty looks. I tried to be as respectful as possible and discuss common ground with supporters of other candidates, and yet, I had to apologize for some clowns making noise in the back.

I'm not perfect either, but people, this is an election: let's be adults about it.

 

[gjdavis60]

Let's not forget that the grassroot's tactics evolved by being ignored and marginalized by the old media. There's some chicken and egg to sort out here before we submit to our own revisionism.

Have we already forgotten about the early polls? The Michigan GOP? The Iowa straw poll? The absence of coverage in ALL the old media? The standard issue epithets: "crank", "kook", "fringe", "quixotic", "gadfly", etc.?

We didn't start out cynical and surly; we started out enthusiastic and hopeful. We came to our militancy honestly through the treatment Dr. Paul's candidacy and the movement have received. I'm not opposed to civility, but I am opposed to being marginalized into oblivion in the name of propriety, like so many other campaigns that played by the "rules" and patiently waited for the fair treatment and exposure that never came.

I'd rather go down fighting than to lay down like, dare I say, sheep.

I'll believe we're getting fair coverage when I see it.

 

[Thumper]

Civility is important above all regardless of who you're talking to. Nobody want's to listen to rude people and will immediately reject their viewpoints as well as those of the candidate they support.

Remember, if you're engaged in a debate with someone you should NEVER be the one to make things nasty. Here or anywhere else. When you resort to using fould language and personal attacks all it demonstrates is that you have run out of arguments. In effect, when you resort to that kind of behavior you, yourself, are conceding defeat.

I have never seen anyone in the business world get someone else to buy their product by telling them to F*** Off or that they are a moron or troll. There is no difference here. Kudos to the OP for his great email. It was on point and civil making the message far easier to receive than emails filled with anger, hate and vitriol. We should all take note of this and take it to heart as well.

 

[Sesshomaru]

I sent the following email based off what someone else wrote here:

Quote:
Dear Frank,

I saw online where someone said they emailed you and you responded and said that you like Dr. Ron Paul, but think his supporters are rude and abrasive.

I just want to remind you that not all of us are. I'm a 26 year old Republican grad student in MD . Im voting for Paul because Im getting my PhD in Economics and its refreshing to see a candidate who actually proposes what I (and others) research. As an economist, I am very
fiscally conservative and realize the gross accounting and economic ramifications that our current government is taking. I feel that Paul is the only real conservative and understands the economic future of this country. As such, I have donated to his campaign and grassroots organizations and will vote for him.

It is unfortunate that so many of his supporters can't conduct themselves in public with any dignity and are rude and obnoxious. I have criticized fellow supporters for chasing down Sean Hannity with snowballs, because it only paints a bad picture for the rest of us.

Not all of us are like the ones who confront you, yell FU Frank like Penn & Teller advised, or act ridiculous. A great, great many of us are fiscal conservative, small-government minded individuals who see a
candidate with great ideals and message. Please don't lump us all together. Please don't color Dr. Paul by his supporters because its the message that is important.

It is quite upsetting to see people who know the two of us support Dr. Paul try wondering if we are some crazy zealots because of the high profile actions of a group of his supporters. I think some of his supporters do more harm than good.

Whether you agree with Paul's views is your business, but my only request is that if you happen to mention the crazies on air, to please remember people like me try to make it clear that it isn't even a vast majority of Paul supporters going over the line...and that there are
several highly intelligent conservative voters out there who understand and agree with Dr. Paul's message.

Thanks for listening
And few minutes later I got the following response:

Quote:
Hang in there. That was a very nice email.
Sent from my blackberry.
Guys I really think this is one of those moments where you can 'kill them with kindness.' If he gets a lot of positive emails, he might not be so abrasive to RP due to RP supporters taking a higher ground.

 

[GoRon2008]

I have actually gained a tiny bit of respect for luntz. he is a smart guy just misguided.

If you get paid tons of money from a network to do what they want, I would probably do shady things too.

But we must be civil.