A number of people here are Conservatives first, and Libertarians second

The unborn are individuals deserving of life and liberty too. PREVENT unwanted pregnancies.

In one sentence, libertarianism, "Other people are not your property."

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...i applaud your using persuasion to try to achieve your goal...my problem is with the gd fool republicrat abortion prohibitionists who would use coercion to achieve their/your goal...

...i can't ever get an honest answer from these abortion prohibitionists:...WHAT LAWS DO THEY FAVOR AND WHAT PENALTY/PENALTIES FOR VIOLATION OF THEIR STINKING LAWS... :confused:

...simple question, but the gd fool womb-police can't/won't give an honest answer...conservative 'teabag' radio-republicans are the worst of the gd fools ime... :mad:
 
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When I was a kid, my father explained that all a conservative is, is someone who wants to preserve the status quo. And even liberals turn into conservatives once they get what they want.

I'm the exact opposite of conservative. There is literally nothing about the current system I think is worth saving.

Is there or has there ever been a system that you would like to live in? If so, what and when?

crickets.....
Kind of expected that.

Is the answer (whatever it is) supposed to be dispositive of something?
 
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...i applaud your using persuasion to try to achieve your goal...my problem is with the gd fool republicrat abortion prohibitionists who would use coercion to achieve their/your goal...

...i can't ever get an honest answer from these abortion prohibitionists:...WHAT LAWS DO THEY FAVOR AND WHAT PENALTY/PENALTIES FOR VIOLATION OF THEIR STINKING LAWS... :confused:

...simple question, but the gd fool womb-police can't/won't give an honest answer...conservative 'teabag' radio-republicans are the worst of the gd fools ime... :mad:

"The problem with American conservatism is that it hates the left more than the state, loves the past more than liberty, feels a greater attachment to nationalism than to the idea of self-determination, believes brute force is the answer to all social problems, and thinks it is better to impose truth rather than risk losing one soul to heresy. It has never understood the idea of freedom as a self-ordering principle of society. It has never seen the state as the enemy of what conservatives purport to favor. It has always looked to presidential power as the saving grace of what is right and true about America." -- Lew Rockwell
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