A Message to the Liberty Movement

[Christopher A. Brown]

dude, I try to be nice to people.

I have mastered HVAC/R. yes, I AM aware you do not know what that means.
we have two sayings,
if you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
and.
if thou art shall piss off thy service tech, thou art shall pay more.

AF and OSAN have pissed me off.

High voltage, air conditioning and refrigeration. Fields I respect greatly.

I have mastered the intentions of the framers as they learned them from the Indigenous people then integrated them as best they might into the documents they authored.

I see through AF and osans act. There is no sacrifice in making an agreement as to the purpose of free speech. AF failed the test over a year ago, but they are wiley in their collusion. Osan is failing the test now. They cannot even provide a reason for not agreeing and accepting the purpose of free speech. Attempts look too bad.

The agents are completely stymied by the agreement and the fact that dissing it causes them to look so bad.

Which is why all those who are sincere Americans should whole heartedly begin participating in it. The agents and infiltrated gov are helpless to stop it because to oppose us exposes them.

 

[Anti Federalist]

What say you to post #100?

High voltage, air conditioning and refrigeration. Fields I respect greatly.

I have mastered the intentions of the framers as they learned them from the Indigenous people then integrated them as best they might into the documents they authored.

I see through AF and osans act. There is no sacrifice in making an agreement as to the purpose of free speech. AF failed the test over a year ago, but they are wiley in their collusion. Osan is failing the test now. They cannot even provide a reason for not agreeing and accepting the purpose of free speech. Attempts look too bad.

The agents are completely stymied by the agreement and the fact that dissing it causes them to look so bad.

Which is why all those who are sincere Americans should whole heartedly begin participating in it. The agents and infiltrated gov are helpless to stop because to oppose us exposes them.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I see through AF and osans act. There is no sacrifice in making an agreement as to the purpose of free speech. AF failed the test over a year ago, but they are wiley in their collusion. Osan is failing the test now. They cannot even provide a reason for not agreeing and accepting the purpose of free speech. Attempts look too bad.

If you'd bother to read anything, instead of just shooting your mouth off, you'd see that I agree with that.

I understand his (Chris Brown's) point, even though he has made it so convoluted so as to almost be almost unintelligible.

I don't think anybody disagrees that free speech is critical to unifying people in opposition to this government, this tyranny, we have right now.

 

[Anti Federalist]

if you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

Eh well, you got the market cornered in that regard.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

These people stood in violent opposition to the 2nd Constitution and the authority granted by it.

Should they have been gunned down or arrested en masse by the federal forces there?

Your questions are dumber and dumber. Of course they should not have been gunned down.

All things considered, I see the Bundy ranch affair as theatre.

Your effort to make it more dramatic than it was underlines the performance. There was no violence.

All Elements appear scripted to try and make violent opposition look functional. Even the government players. It's a dangerous distraction from what is functional, a lawful and peaceful revolution under Article V.

I was banned from the OK forum in 2010 for trying to promote discussion about using the constitution to defend the constitution.

All participating on behalf of Bundy are appreciated for their dedication and courage to that cause as it was. However, I will say they were used in a theatrical production designed to distract from true function.

You and osan are here opposing that true function because officials do not dare.

 

[Anti Federalist]

All participating on behalf of Bundy are appreciated for their dedication and courage to that cause as it was. However, I will say they were used in a theatrical production designed to distract from true function.

A theatrical production produced by whom?

Were the "Bundy Ranchers" paid government actors, useful idiots, or just dupes?

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

If you'd bother to read anything, instead of just shooting your mouth off, you'd see that I agree with that.

Any convolution was only there in efforts to re explain the simplicity to agents pretending they do not understand.

Your quote of yourself that you expect me to accept as agreement falls short of that because of convolution, ironically.

It falls short because the agreement is not just about unity it is about excluding the insincere. It is about filtering out the ranks of those who actually intend the opposite of constitutional defense and restoring government under it.

The sincere are protected from misleading, misinformation, deception and distraction by stopping all communication with people that do not wholeheartedly agree and accept with robust vigor, the purpose of free speech.

The citizens grand jury will not have authority in any jurisdiction until Article V is used to make amendment compelling to Supreme Court to authorize common law across the nations in all states.

District Attorneys hate the "wild card" aspect while courts of statute jurisdiction are challenged to remain fully constitutional or see decisions reversed outside of the appeals divisions which always had the predictability of only operating under statute law. To hold jurisdiction they've ill have to welcome jury veto power, which is a lower form of the GC.

All of these forms of constitutional justice depend on the citizens understanding of constitutional intent. The purpose of free speech is the very root of how constitutional intent is defined and refined.

Every time a local GC over rules a statute court it is done because the Americans of the GC agree that the statute courts use of statute law is ruled to be, by the jury, in that case, against constitutional intent.

So that unity around constitutional intent serves far more than efficacy in using the right to alter or abolish federal government destructive to vital rights, it keeps Americans acting as jurists in both statute courts as well as that of the grand jury, making decisions that meet everyone's expectations of constitutional justice.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

A theatrical production produced by whom?

Were the "Bundy Ranchers" paid government actors, useful idiots, or just dupes?

Unconscious groupings, agendas and actions cannot be mapped out in our society because we are too ignorant of the nature of them.

I don't know who wrote the script, I don't know who arranged the actors or chose the theatre, I just recognize theatre when I see it.

It was not a bad thing, to the contrary. It demonstrated a great deal of control and integrity towards constitutional principals by ALL entities.

However, there is the possibility it was done to try and set an example of what a functional revolution looks like hoping that some Americans would try it without a scripted official entity.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I don't know who wrote the script, I don't know who arranged the actors or chose the theatre, I just recognize theatre when I see it.

And what if you're wrong, what if this is was, in fact, genuine, organic, sincere, to use your word?

Should it be encouraged?

Regardless, I'm assuming you then disagree with HVACTech that these people were "violent revolutionaries".

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

And what if you're wrong, what is this is was, in fact, genuine, organic, sincere, to use your word?

Should it be encouraged?

Regardless, I'm assuming you then disagree with HVACTech that these people were "violent revolutionaries".

Militias should be encouraged. Militias should be taught to educate the public towards the most constitutional revolution first IF that is what is needed. And it is, but militias are not discussing such lawful and peaceful action.

That's not real. Indicating the action taking place is faked on some level. Fake = theatre.

Sincere theatre is fully possible.

HVAC's evaluation is not wrong, it's just not comprehensive to the less obvious possibilities. He watched the show and accurately interpreted the intent portrayed consistent with what most well informed Americans would find.

 

[Anti Federalist]

HVAC's evaluation is not wrong, it's just not comprehensive to the less obvious possibilities. He watched the show and accurately interpreted the intent portrayed consistent with what most well informed Americans would find.

And that being: that the Bundy Ranchers were violent revolutionaries?

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

And that being: that the Bundy Ranchers were violent revolutionaries?

Anyone appraised of the potentials would assume that. However, those were only potentials.
I did not see HVACs post so don't know.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Anyone appraised of the potentials would assume that. However, those were only potentials.
I did not see HVACs post so don't know.

He has not, as of yet, answered the question.

Took a while to pin you down, but at least I know where you stand.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

He has not, as of yet, answered the question.

Took a while to pin you down, but at least I know where you stand.

It's been over a year that I've tried to get your agreement and acceptance of the purpose of free speech, and you still haven't provided it.

Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity required to effectively alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights?

Your question is a loaded question, about a current controversy with a cloudy basis, my question is not. It is very straight forward and related to the meanings of documents which have been around for hundreds of years.

My question is about clarifying a purpose of an existing right. A purpose obvious in the implied original intent but not clearly stated in the final document. As if the entire social effort to create the document was under siege to prevent clarity and create later weaknesses in the peoples ability to uphold the principles of the document.

 

[Origanalist]

What say you to post #100?

I think this place has gone batshit crazy, that's what I say.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

What say you to post #100?

It's theatre with actors poised for violent revolution. There was none because the producers consider their actors valuable. The purpose of it was to try and demonstrate how successful armed confrontation could be. Of course when it is not theatre, the public participating is gunned down and labeled seditionists, violent revolutionaries.

At the same time there was an unsuccessful effort by another faction competing for control. Not nearly as sophisticated or connected. Operation American Spring.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/16/operation-american-spring-falls-flat-very-disappoi/

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conte...eader-announces-phase-ii-plan-overthrow-obama

The leadership was not accountable to discussing constitutional intent and peaceful lawful means of effecting goals despite their protest was designed to be peaceful. No legal process. Literally empty except the same premise as OSW, right to petition for grievance.

ROE's
(1) No weapons. No ammunition.
The Communist forces that control Washington DC do not recognize the 2nd Amendment and have banned all weapons and ammunition from the district. Do not give them the opportunity to arrest you and prosecute you. Leave your guns and ammo within the safe proximity of a free state. When the government is changed constitutionally so will the laws in Washington DC when we return our country back to a republic that recognizes the constitution. Bring Bibles and constitutions. Of course your 2nd Amendment Rights are God given and no man can disarm you but at this point we must follow the rules laid out by the Communists until we vote them out of office. You do have a right to self defense.

It's pretty clear to me that the faction promoting violence have a far better publicity network and covert manipulation network. They were able to get lots of people, even publicity whereas the others got almost no one to show.

 

[HVACTech]

Some of Brown's points are actually very good and well thought as far as actual process. And I agree with him in scope but I wouldn't go so far as to place the people that he is placing into the phenomenon. As well, I wouldn't necessarily just assume that it would be government infiltration. It'd be more in tune with private entities.

So, good points and actually a great observation as a whole (meaning the way this stuff goes down sometimes on boards like this) when it comes to this stuff, but, as I said, I wouldn't tie the people that Brown ties into the phenomenon as he does here.

thanks for the neg rep bro.

You'd do well to be carefulk before you're made to look foolish. Entropy is one of the most fundamental concepts of physical science.

YOU, of course, do not mind if I share your neg rep comment do you? of course not!
YOU are trying to "protect" me from looking foolish!

I TRIPLE dog dare YOU to make me look foolish.

just so we are on the same page. OSANS IT based definition is BULLSHIT.

I defined the word Entropy in 7 words. ANYONE care to challenge my definition?

yes, energy FLOW is random, it also presents other.. "rules"
Energy FLOW is LIFE dipstick.

 

[Anti Federalist]

It's theatre with actors poised for violent revolution. There was none because the producers consider their actors valuable. The purpose of it was to try and demonstrate how successful armed confrontation could be. Of course when it is not theatre, the public participating is gunned down and labeled seditionists, violent revolutionaries.

So you do not support the Bundy Ranch action.

Got it.

You're wrong, of course, but I got it.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Instead of flailing around and spewing a bunch of obscenity laced crazy, think, calmly and coherently for moment, and try to answer post #100.

thanks for the neg rep bro.

YOU, of course, do not mind if I share your neg rep comment do you? of course not!
YOU are trying to "protect" me from looking foolish!

I TRIPLE dog dare YOU to make me look foolish fuckwad.

just so we are on the same page. OSANS IT based definition is BULLSHIT.

I defined the word Entropy in 7 words. ANYONE care to challenge my definition?

yes, energy FLOW is random, it also presents other.. "rules"
Energy FLOW is LIFE dipstick.

 

[Christopher A. Brown]

Some of Brown's points are actually very good and well thought as far as actual process. And I agree with him in scope but I wouldn't go so far as to place the people that he is placing into the phenomenon. As well, I wouldn't necessarily just assume that it would be government infiltration. It'd be more in tune with private entities.

So, good points and actually a great observation as a whole (meaning the way this stuff goes down sometimes on boards like this) when it comes to this stuff, but, as I said, I wouldn't tie the people that Brown ties into the phenomenon as he does here.

It takes a lot of experience to know when the potential for covert agenda may be in control. Critical thinking IS required. Agents don't attack everyone or every concept.

Logically they only risk attacking concepts that will functionally oppose the agenda of the major governmental infiltration. If you have never promoted one of those you've never seen first hand the unreason they suddenly share, mostly without staying they share it. That becomes an overt group. I describe a group, but a covert one. If they are seen acting overtly in opposition rather than covertly as a group, they expose the group which is far more damaging than just one or two agents.

Some have spent years building credibility as sincere Americans posting on web forums.

For this reason a large percentage never oppose, and the sacrificial agents attempt opposition. The others of a larger body has exchanges with them later that increases their credibility. They are preserved as a large body to ping pong quasi sensational subjects putting down the government to maintain credibility. They are important for dilution and distraction, or burying threads that have concepts that will successfully oppose the governmental infiltrations agenda of tyranny.

This goes back at least 7 years to an overt admission/recommendation from a Supreme Court justice advising BO to invest in cognitive infiltration with his regime/administration. Probably all the way back to the inception of .com, increasing radically after 9/11.

http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/snowden_cyber_offensive2_nbc_document.pdf

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE95K0ZV20130621?irpc=932
For decades, the NSA and GCHQ have worked as close partners, sharing intelligence under an arrangement known as the UKUSA agreement. They also collaborate with eavesdropping agencies in Canada, Australia and New Zealand under an arrangement known as the "Five Eyes" alliance.


Next is the natural question for you Natural Citizen. Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable unity adequate to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?