A message to ron paul supporters from Freds Money Bomb

[Kap]

Fredhead three things:

One, whatever individuals were posting those e-mails do not represent the entire grassroots Ron Paul effort. Deal with them, not us.

Two, actually post the e-mails. Otherwise no one will take you seriously.

Three, as far as I know you could be a closet Hillary fan attempting to smear BOTH sides for your own enjoyment.

 

[RPFTW!]

Not cool. This not the position of the campaign, and makes the rest of us look like asses, excuse my french. You think this kind of rhetoric attracts new supporters?

*edit: Sorry for my strong response, but these labels are not appropriate, and do nothing but turn of potential supporters. To many, many people use of the word "zionist" does imply racism. You don't see the campaign using it, for good reason. It's our job to convince people of the message of freedom, not "zionist" control of government, or whatever other particular pet positions you/others might have. Please, please, keep it to principles with which we all agree -- this is enough of a cold hard reality shock for most people anyway.

No problem, I disagree though to a point, zionists are untouchable because of the racist connotations associated. You can't criticize them without being labeled an anti-semite, we need to make people aware that zionists are a small minority of the Jewish population and do not come close to representing a majority. If this issue never gets attention because of fear of repercussions then I fear the problem will never be addressed. The majority of people will be unaware of the zionist domination, its a crappy situation but eventually people will need to start speaking up, I think you might be right though in not tying anti-zionism to Ron Paul's campain.

political correctness ftl!

 

[Eric21ND]

There could be also people online WHO ACT LIKE BEING RON PAUL SUPPORTER....

EXACTLY! Thread over.

 

[BeFranklin]

How much money did he raise?

Think he ought to put that on his site instead, and focus on the positive.

 

[82ndVET4RP]

lol They have to blame someone that their bomb was dud.

 

[Kuldebar]

I'm not ashamed, I don't control the actions of others and I'm not a collectivist, so what is there to be ashamed of?

If such actions occurred in the manner that the web site describes, well it's crappy behavior that I would not personally condone; but I am very suspicious of the story source and how the blame is conveniently laid upon Ron Paul supporters. Such whines are easy things to whip up out of smallish things. Do you not think the Ron Paul campaign gets its share of fraudulent donors and jokesters ?

Could the truth be that such a donation drive for FT attracted minimal interest and his supporters were not capable of overcoming such minor irritants?

Additionally, Ron Paul supporters did not as a mass of lemmings go forth blindly endorsing and cheer leading the bloody policies of the federal government and its leaders.

It will be a cold day in hell when such a broadly painted smear could give us the slightest reason for pause due some kind of collective guilt. Such things do not compare to the smell of death that other individuals must bear in a cloud about them.

 

[BillyDkid]

There could be also people online WHO ACT LIKE BEING RON PAUL SUPPORTER....

Yes, people need to understand this. What better way to discredit Ron Paul supporters than to pretend to be one and act like an ass?

 

[noztnac]

That's like the "How long have you been beating your wife?" question.

Don't believe everything another campaign says about your candidates supporters.

It may very well have been one of Giuliani's dirty tricks to make us look bad. After all, if we really wanted to screw up his campaign we could have had computers spamming Giuliani/Romney messages at him.

 

[sharedvoice]

Fred Thompson's campaign is going nowhere. I expect him to throw in the towel anyday now.

I believe a majority of his supporters are little embarrassed and envious at our success. However, they will get over it eventually and hopefully join our ranks.

The comment on www.fredsgivingday.com was clearly out of despair and signals the death of Fred's failed unhealthy campaign.

 

[stevedasbach]

Are people really stupid enough to do things like that, or did he just put up that message to make us look like asses?

Sadly, given what I've seen on this forum, and what I saw online long before Paul was seen as a threat, I suspect that such messages were received and that most came from people who consider themselves Paul supporters.

What's worse, even if every single Paul supporter swore off such juvenile BS from this day forward, those who now see Paul as a threat can post similar comments all over the Internet and all of us who support Dr. Paul will be stuck taking the blame.

However, we still have one chance to turn this around. We probably have a few more weeks until the other campaigns truly see Dr. Paul as a threat instead of just an annoyance. If we somehow could get all of Dr. Paul's supporters to clean up their act and post with passion and civility, people would stop associating Dr. Paul with such behavior. Then, if it starts up again after Paul does well in Iowa and wins New Hampshire, it will be more obvious that these comments are the work of people trying to undemine Paul's support.

We are all Dr. Paul's ambassadors and we all need to act accordingly.

 

[tremendoustie]

Sadly, given what I've seen on this forum, and what I saw online long before Paul was seen as a threat, I suspect that such messages were received and that most came from people who consider themselves Paul supporters.

What's worse, even if every single Paul supporter swore off such juvenile BS from this day forward, those who now see Paul as a threat can post similar comments all over the Internet and all of us who support Dr. Paul will be stuck taking the blame.

However, we still have one chance to turn this around. We probably have a few more weeks until the other campaigns truly see Dr. Paul as a threat instead of just an annoyance. If we somehow could get all of Dr. Paul's supporters to clean up their act and post with passion and civility, people would stop associating Dr. Paul with such behavior. Then, if it starts up again after Paul does well in Iowa and wins New Hampshire, it will be more obvious that these comments are the work of people trying to undemine Paul's support.

We are all Dr. Paul's ambassadors and we all nned to act accordingly.

+1

 

[AlexMerced]

also getting commuity service in local media will change the perception as well, "Ron Paul supporters are philanthropist" so again take you meet-up groups to local soup kitchens andand do canned food drivesand wear your RP thirts, I know many of you are already doing it, but also emailyour local stations about it.

 

[angelatc]

also getting commuity service in local media will change the perception as well, "Ron Paul supporters are philanthropist" so again take you meet-up groups to local soup kitchens andand do canned food drivesand wear your RP thirts, I know many of you are already doing it, but also emailyour local stations about it.

Be careful about that. the 501(c)3 status of an organization could be jeopardized if they were seen as endorsing a particular candidate.

 

[jenninlouisiana]

When we raise more than 10 million dollars on the 16th, they'll shut up.

We shouldn't respond to it because it puts us on the defensive. I don't want to apologize for other Ron Paul supporters, if in fact it was a RP supporter. It mires us down in muck if we dig in with the Fredheads.

I know *I* have integrity and I support Ron Paul.

That's good enough for me.

Jennifer

 

[reduen]

Sounds like sour grapes to me..

Why should we believe other candidates supporters when we can't even believe the candidates they support?

Do any of you really realize what these people will do to our country if we fail?

Forget them and keep your eyes on the goal.

 

[The Good Doctor]

Look man, there is no way this will happen unless the ISP pulls the plug. I work at an ISP and we resell equipment. I am sure they have a firewall on this thing.

Lets make sure we all have RPs phone number in case the website crashes - either from the overwhelming response or from malicious hijacking of the site!

 

[The Good Doctor]

Yeah that is what I mean. "We failed because of the Ron Paulers." LOL.

Give me a break. We have no one's word but this guy's that Ron Paul supporters (or those claiming to be) did anything like what he says.

It's such a transparent and desperate tactic that's become a meme, because they can't argue the issues. "Ron Paul supporters are so mean! They attacked Rudy on the ferry! They're so impolite!" Whatever. Remember that recent article about how mean Ron Paul supporters are...where CHARLES JOHNSON of LITTLE GREEN FOOTBALLS was cited as a a reference point for online manners?

Ron Paul supporters are no more rude or polite than supporters of any other candidate in my experience. Those who say otherwise are cherry-picking because they can't argue the main points -- than Ron Paul is against the state, and they themselves are for it. It's a diversionary tactic.

Yes, be nice -- but don't buy into their crap, and don't navel-gaze too much over it.

 

[Kombaiyashii]

This is their only way to spin the failure of their moneybomb, if it was any real amount then it would dwarf the people that posted fake pledges. I mocked and laughed at their moneybomb and expected it to fail but I know my boundaries, he mocks and acts all maniacal towards us, I was almost expecting an evil laugh coming out reading that flame so I don't think ridicule is such a terrible thing.

I think the webhost it out of line for aiming the blame at Ron Paul rather than realising that he was the one responsible for ripping off a genius idea and turning it into a failure. Way to pass the buck.

I am a good Ron Paul supporter, we had some fun laughing at the failed moneybombs but to get all hissy about us mocking them is a bit of a copout. Instead, why don't they mobilise their grassroots to make a bigger money bomb than Rons? Oh, I almost forgot...

 

[torchbearer]

Sounds like sour grapes to me..

Why should we believe other candidates supporters when we can't even believe the candidates they support?

Do any of you really realize what these people will do to our country if we fail?

Forget them and keep your eyes on the goal.

qft!

 

[KewlRonduderules]

Yeah this sounds quite dubious. Someone has serious envy issues for Dr. Paul's fundraising efforts and they are out to blame us for that.

Dr. Paul is getting stronger and the attacks more persistent.

Be prepared everybody it is going to get worse. They have already infiltrated this forum and have periodically attempted to derail the grassroots campaign. Now they are stepping it up a notch.

More attacks are likely to occur.

We need to plan out how we are going to cope with such matters especially how it pertains to this forum.